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Technical Specs and Details for SF

DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
edited November 2011 in Skyfall Posts: 24,257
<b>What are your hopes / wishes in this department?</b>

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I have a few:

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<li>Aspect ratio: 2.35:1
<li>Feature length: 130 min or more
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I'm not even talking about sound, digital filming or not, ... But you can. ;;)
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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Yes, 130 mins or more. I didn't wait 4 years for a petty running time like QOS. With the films coming out once every 2 year, I expect a decent running time.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    It is nown that Skyfall will be the first Bond movie shot completely in digital ever. Cinematographer Roger Deakins will use Arri Alexa cameras. The aspect ratio will be 2.35:1.

    As for the lenght: the longer the better! :)
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2011 Posts: 13,356
    The runtime should be 120 to 130 minutes. It don't want an overly long or short film like the last two have been.

    I hope Bond works well on digital, with Deakins we're in for one hell of a good looking film.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,257
    I never thought of CR as running too long. In fact, I was so engaged in the film that upon its ending I could still have swallowed an extra hour. Luckily I can now play both films, CR and QOS, as if they were one big picture. Too bad there's a quality drop after about 3/5 of this duology. ;;)
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    I feel the third act of Casino Royale drags and isn't needed, it could have been cut to nearer the two hour mark. Back to back the timing evens out at 4 hours so both films work as a double feature for Bond's beginning.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,723
    The problem, Dimi, is that the 7 minutes of uneeded final action scene in the sinking house could have been switched into a nice intro for Moneypenny and Q. That way Vesper's death could also have been closer to the novel.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Agreed. While I am excited time and again to revisit CR, I acknowledge the fact that the sinking house in Venice feels somewhat redundant. If they wanted an extra action beat anyway, why not finish off the Mr White story so that QOS could have started from scratch?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2011 Posts: 13,356
    A nearer to 3 hour film dealing with Bond and Vesper as well as Bond tracking down Quantum may have been far better. Anyway, it doesn't matter now, as we starting from scratch with Skyfall.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    For me, it's the first hour of CR that needs trimming (the MGW half?). The airport sequence, particularly once Bond is on the tarmac, goes on forever. Just get to Montenegro already.

    I hope Skyfall has a length appropriate to its story.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2011 Posts: 13,356
    For me, it's the first hour of CR that needs trimming (the MGW half?). The airport sequence, particularly once Bond is on the tarmac, goes on forever. Just get to Montenegro already.
    I personally would trim that too. The middle of the film is great, the rest...
  • JBFan626JBFan626
    Posts: 1,497
    Agreed On CR running a bit long. OHMSS was I think the perfect example of a longer Bond done right at 2 hours 20 minuts. The beginning is slower with exposition but builds and builds until the extended finale with escape from Piz Gloria, chase in the ski village, attack on Piz Gloria, and finally the Blofeld chase. Whereas CR starts nearly with straight action for the first 30 minutes, then settles into the card game for a while, but then follows with the love story angle. Finally when we get to the Venice finale, there is a sense of exhaustion. There definitely could have been some cutting along the way to make the pace a little more fluid. FRWL also, could have been cut during some of the chase scenes post Red Grant, since the climax is really with the Red Grant fight.

    So for SF, I'm all for a nice 2 hour and 20 minute movie, as long as they can pace it right.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited November 2011 Posts: 15,723
    What really disappoints me in CR is that the producers/directors didn't filled the film with bold moves like the cards game in the casino. I think it is absolutly wonderful with the way they put all the close-ups of Mikkelsen's and Craig's eyes during the poker game. That really is a bold move for an action movie, as it really puts the emphasis on the slow developping duel between the 2 actors and not flat out action. If only the rest of the film had the same boldness and not fall in the mould of the typical action film genre. Also the final scene had a big bold move aswell - the slow close-up of Mr White's villa. After nearly 2.5 hours of film, you'd think they'd want to get it over with, but no... they give the final scene a slow buildup.

    Whenever I watch CR I am truely fascinating by how the filmed and edited the poker game... It really stands out like a slow thriller and not a huge action blockbuster. But I am always disappointed that the rest of the film didn't have this similar feel.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2011 Posts: 13,356
    Here's the runtime of Mendes' films to date:

    American Beauty: 122 minutes
    Road to Perdition: 117 minutes
    Jarhead: 123 minutes
    Revolutionary Road: 121 minutes
    Away We Go: 98 minutes

    So 2 hours seems likely. His current average is 116.2 minutes.
  • arlingtonbeecharlingtonbeech
    Posts: 10
    I'd like a return to the 130-140 minutes mark.
    Quantum of solace is an enjoyable movie, and it has some great moments,
    but, among various problems, it's too short.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,257
    And I for one don't buy Forster's explanation for the short feature length being suitable for a revenge film...
  • JBFan626JBFan626
    Posts: 1,497
    Forster gaves us one thing, a gorgeous looking film. That's about all I can say.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,356
    And I for one don't buy Forster's explanation for the short feature length being suitable for a revenge film...
    It wasn't a revenge film. Did you think it was DD, or did Forster?
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    QOS was so short because they didn't really have a story to tell. It looks like now they have a story to tell so SF should have a satisfying lenght.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,681
    Anything less than 2 hours is not enough Bond.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,257
    And I for one don't buy Forster's explanation for the short feature length being suitable for a revenge film...
    It wasn't a revenge film. Did you think it was DD, or did Forster?
    Not my idea. Forster said it. He used it as the primary reason for QoS being as short as it was.

  • SJK91SJK91
    Posts: 1,310
    Quantum of Solace almost felt like there were scenes missing. Not only that, but the way it was edited (for example, Bond cleaning himself off after his fight with Mr. Slate: it is done almost in montage form) almost suggested that the producers were trying to keep the film as concise and short as possible. I didn't really like that. But then again, I don't think Forster could have stretched out QOS another 20 minutes with the plot they had. After the film was over, it felt like two hours to me. (I'm still not sure if that's a good thing or not...)

    I think a runtime between 120 and 130 minutes is perfectly acceptable, provided you have a story that can reasonably fit in that time. Let's face it, some Bond movies stretched their plots pretty thin with overly long runtimes. But if the script is as brilliant as Mendes and the gang claim, filling 130 minutes of screen-time shouldn't be a problem.

    And as far as the aspect ratio is concerned: a 2.35:1 should be just right. Nearly every Bond film since The Spy Who Loved Me has been in 2.35:1 and I see no need in changing it now! (Curiously, IMDB states that TND was filmed in 2.20:1 format...is that right?)
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,681
    Anyone like the idea of Bond in 3D?

    Anyone? No?

    Me neither. :-S
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,257
    The idea is so repulsive it makes my stomach hurt just to think about it.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,723
    The idea is so repulsive it makes my stomach hurt just to think about it.
    Don't you want to see image Ralph Fiennes image in 3D ?

  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,681
    @DarthDimi

    I hope you're feeling better now. :-D
  • VirageVirage
    Posts: 1,856
    Anyone like the idea of Bond in 3D?

    Anyone? No?

    Me neither. :-S
    If they do they lose my ticket

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,257
    The idea is so repulsive it makes my stomach hurt just to think about it.
    Don't you want to see image Ralph Fiennes image in 3D ?

    I'm still waiting for that The Avengers sequel... ;;)
    @DarthDimi

    I hope you're feeling better now. :-D
    Sure. Aspirin and Red Bull perform miracles together.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited November 2011 Posts: 15,723
    If they do they lose my ticket
    So you won't see image Ralph Fiennes image in a Bond movie on the big screen.
    I'm still waiting for that The Avengers sequel... ;;)
    image Ralph Fiennes image is in the Avengers ??
  • VirageVirage
    Posts: 1,856
    If its in 3d then NO!!!!!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited November 2011 Posts: 14,681
    Ha! I knew you guys would flip if I mentioned 3D. Personally, I'm curious to see how it would turn out. Though I think 3D is more suited to sci-fi/horrors, right?
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