SPECTRE: TOP 5 elements "SPECTRE" must have to tackle all criticism that surrounded "SKYFALL"

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• Mendes4Lyfe The long road ahead

  June 2015 Posts: 8,400

  What bond fans want is another army vs army fight inside an elaborate base to finish off the film. It's been ages since the last one of those in the living daylights and the demand is higher than ever before.
• Gustav_Graves

  June 2015 Posts: 11,119

  Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »

  What bond fans want is another army vs army fight inside an elaborate base to finish off the film. It's been ages since the last one of those in the living daylights and the demand is higher than ever before.

  
  I'm not sure if I welcome such a fight. FRWL was perfect IMO, in that it kept the fights small and less elaborate.
  
  SF to that end was way too elaborate, with that finale.
• Gustav_Graves

  July 2015 edited July 2015 Posts: 11,119

  edit. Sometimes the forum-board software is really doing weird things! Quite irritating :-(.
• Gustav_Graves

  July 2015 edited July 2015 Posts: 11,119

  After watching the full theatrical trailer, how would we actually judge the list so far??
  

  Gustav_Graves wrote: »

  Let's have a look at the TOP 20 from the list :-P:
  So, here is the list of 'Most frequent mentionings of aspects/elements that could be improved for Bond 24' as of February 18th 2015[/b]:
  
  32 MENTIONINGS -> 'GUNBARREL BACK AT THE START'
  20 mentionings --> 'Return of more psychotic Ernst Blofeld (Christoph Waltz?)' *a BIG CHECK :-P*
  19 mentionings --> 'Better memorable music score/No Thomas Newman'
  18 mentionings --> 'Bond bedding a real Bond-girl in the end'
  17 mentionings --> 'James Bond in snow/Ski scenes' *CHECK :-P*

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  17 mentionings --> 'Simple, plain mission briefing in M's office' *CHECK, Naomie Harris confirms: behind the desk*
  13 mentionings --> 'Larger role for Felix Leiter'
  11 mentionings --> 'Soak up culture/escapist, glamorous locations, smarter use' *Almost CHECK, because snowy Austria, Day of the Death Festival in Mexico ;-)?*
  10 mentionings --> 'Better screenplay/story/more effective one-liners for Bond' *CHECK, already more mystery about the plot*
  10 mentionings --> 'Better fist fights, tougher James Bond'
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  09 mentionings --> 'Memorable henchman/henchwoman (Tilda Swinton?)' *CHECK, both Dave Bautista & Brigitte Millar :-P*
  07 mentionings --> 'Return of crime syndicate QUANTUM' *CHECK, Mr White returns*
  07 mentionings --> 'More clever, less brutal action'
  07 mentionings --> 'More funny Q-gadgets' *Almost CHECK, Aston Martin DB10*
  06 mentionings --> 'Return of S.P.E.C.T.R.E.' *CHECK :-P*
  06 mentionings --> 'Bring in Formula One racing, new kind of carchase ('Rush')'
  06 mentionings --> 'A straightforward grand escapist Bond adventure (Thunderball-style?)'
  06 mentionings --> 'Lush, escapist production design'
  04 mentionings --> 'Return of Barry's 007 theme'
  04 mentionings --> 'Commander James Bond 007 in naval uniform'

  
  I can give my thoughts:
  
  --> 'Return of more psychotic Ernst Blofeld':
  I don't know if Blofeld is quite psychotic, but it really seems Blofeld is back. Apparently quite a wish for many fans. But it's not entirely sure just yet. Yes, we get a true 'Blofeld-vibe' when we are seeing Oberhauser utterling lines like: "I'm the author of all your pain". In my opinion just marvellous.
  
  --> 'Bond bedding a real Bond-girl in the end':
  Well, with three leading Bond-girls in this film, Bond really has more women to deal with as compared to his previous three outings. Seeing Bond making love with both Lucia Sciarra and Madeleine Swann must satisfy every Bond fan here.
  
  --> 'James Bond in snow/Ski scenes':
  James Bond-007 is 'skiing'.....but this time not with one ski, or an improvised snowboard, but with an airplane! One most absolutely love the dark, cold look and feel of the Austrian sequences in this film. There's even a mysterious clinic on top of that Alp!
  
  --> 'Simple, plain mission briefing in M's office':
  Simple plain mission briefing in a wonderful classic wooden-panelled office that has a true Bernard Lee-vibe to it?!?!? Agent 007 gets shouted at, is being lectured by our new "M"! This must be another drooling scene for many Bond fans.
  
  --> 'Soak up culture/escapist, glamorous locations, smarter use':
  Guys, we're getting basically thrown in this during the PTS of "SPECTRE"! There's this wonderful "Dia De Los Muertos"-carnaval that's the stage for a gripping opening foot chase. And it doesn't stop there. We have a bunch of FRWL-esque scenes in an oriental old train....in Morocco. Do not forget: Morocco has been the setting for quite a lot of spy stories.
  
  --> Memorable henchman/henchwoman:
  Another "Check"! By jolly, we're in for a treat with Dave Bautista as the large henchman Mr Hinx. It seems he even has his own signature kill. Perhaps he's snapping necks of people by getting a good grip in one's eye socket. I don't know if that's some kind of signature kill, but it does look like it! And let's not forget that there still is some mystery surrounding the characters of Andrew Scott and Brigitte Millar. Brigitte Millar plays a German S.P.E.C.T.R.E.-member, called Dr Vogel.
  
  --> 'Return of crime syndicate QUANTUM'/'Return of S.P.E.C.T.R.E.:
  Well, what else do you want me to say?? Even QUANTUM's Mr White returns! As a lead/build-up towards uncovering S.P.E.C.T.R.E.?
  
  --> 'More funny Q-gadgets':
  There's an entire Q-Branch scene in this film, with even a larger role for "Q". But one has to loveeee that Aston Martin DB10, which seems to be equipped with several gadgets in test-phase, of which we already saw the flame thrower. But who knows what more we get to see. Ooowh, and they were also working on a few other Aston Martin's, including the DB5, with stripped off bumpers. Could it be a present for 007 :-P?
  
  --> 'Formula One racing':
  I always found it a great idea to situate parts of Bond's adventures on a Formula One racing track. It seems this will happen in the new James Bond novel 'Trigger Mortis'. But hell, just look at the parts of the chase sequence in Rome. That must feel like some proper "Bullitt"-esque car racing no?
  
  --> 'Lush, escapist production design':
  I must say, I love Dennis Gassner. What he did to the last three Bond films is absolutely stunning. And in this film we'll see a true Ken Adam-esque climax that we all wanted. Did anyone see Oberhauser's lair? Or the S.P.E.C.T.R.E.-board room? Lush, mysterious, escapist. It should make every Bond fan drool!
  
  --> 'Commander James Bond 007 in naval uniform':
  Well, that's not the case for this film. Apparently, so far. But we DO know that agent 007 will be wearing an ivory-white Tom Ford tuxedo! It's another Bond fan's wet dream coming true! The first time since Roger Moore's last outing as 007 in "A View To A Kill". And how! Perhaps Daniel Craig/Tom Ford are setting a fashion standard again? Perhaps people are daring enough again to wear white dinner jackets??
  
  --> A straightforward grand escapist Bond adventure (Thunderball-style?)':
  It seems "SPECTRE" will be Craig's quintessential Bond-film, looking at the above points. But let me tell you this: EON Productions did follow their own narrative path during the course of 4 films. They didn't give in to sometimes straightforward unfriendly and humiliating criticism about Daniel Craig, the lack of gadgets and the ongoing anti-Craig blogs. Actually, I think it's safe to say that we have arrived at this 4th Bond-film, in which Daniel Craig actually has become the man we all love within this universe of sexy women, exotic locale, the mystery of espionage and all these gadgets. BUT it was done in a slow and nuanced way, that connects all four Bond films together. It is now absolutely a 'must' to speak about a true Ian Fleming Quadrilogy of Bond films. The late Fleming, Saltzman and 'Cubby' must have felt delighted about this. It is indeed a wonderful time to be a Bond fan!