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Spectre title song - Writing's on the Wall

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  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    I guess downloading on Amazon will be the same day as in iTunes, September 28th.

    Cheers, gonna keep checking so I can get it pre-ordered.....
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    The Craig era is unique, as only one title song shares the title with it s film. Earlier, that was an anomaly.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    The Craig era is unique, as only one title song shares the title with it s film. Earlier, that was an anomaly.

    I actually don't like that. The name of the songs should be instantly recognisable as Bond themes.

    I think it's lack of creativity nowadays or even laziness.
    When Duran Duran can come up with a song called A View To A Kill and make it arguably the best ever, or a-ha name their song The Living Daylights or Crow sings Tomorrow Never Dies...etc.
    And in all those songs the actual title of the movie is in the lyrics, respectively chorus.

    I really wish there would be a song with Casino Royale or Quantum Of Solace in the lyrics of the chorus, would work so much better.
  • RC7RC7
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
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    I actually don't like that. The name of the songs should be instantly recognisable as Bond themes.

    I think it's lack of creativity nowadays or even laziness.
    When Duran Duran can come up with a song called A View To A Kill and make it arguably the best ever, or a-ha name their song The Living Daylights or Crow sings Tomorrow Never Dies...etc.
    And in all those songs the actual title of the movie is in the lyrics, respectively chorus.

    I really wish there would be a song with Casino Royale or Quantum Of Solace in the lyrics of the chorus, would work so much better.

    How would you equate it to a lack of creativity or laziness?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    "Writing s On The Wall" reminds me of this:
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    RC7 wrote: »
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    How would you equate it to a lack of creativity or laziness?

    Well, try to make a chorus with Quantum Of Solace or Spectre that doesn't sound ridiculous...it sure is hard work, calling for creativity and it is more comfortable just to do lyrics without trying, hence laziness.
  • patbpatb
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    If the stories are connected, can he resist rhyming "wall" and "skyfall" ?
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
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    I actually don't like that. The name of the songs should be instantly recognisable as Bond themes.

    I think it's lack of creativity nowadays or even laziness.
    When Duran Duran can come up with a song called A View To A Kill and make it arguably the best ever, or a-ha name their song The Living Daylights or Crow sings Tomorrow Never Dies...etc.
    And in all those songs the actual title of the movie is in the lyrics, respectively chorus.

    I really wish there would be a song with Casino Royale or Quantum Of Solace in the lyrics of the chorus, would work so much better.

    I don't think that putting Casino Royale or Quantum of Solace in the lyrics would by itself improve anything! The title in the lyrics has nothing to do with the quality (or lack of it) of a theme song.

    As a side joke, there was a (brilliant) comedy series in Portugal some 25 years ago titled Casino Royal (note the lack of the final e). This was not a Bond spoof, just a series set during WWII in Lisbon, full of spies from both sides of the conflict, a bit like Allo Allo. The title song (sung in Portuguese, German, English and French) managed to include the word Casino, but not Royal.
  • RC7RC7
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
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    Well, try to make a chorus with Quantum Of Solace or Spectre that doesn't sound ridiculous...it sure is hard work, calling for creativity and it is more comfortable just to do lyrics without trying, hence laziness.

    But, 'You Know My Name' is an incredible song, with perfectly appropriate lyrics considering the film's narrative. Why would a song about a Casino have been better? With QoS, he doesn't find said, 'solace', until the end of the film. Hence why the lyrics weave in a link to CR, rather than shoe-horn in the full title. I think there's a risk of modern Bond songs feeling pastiche, so I'm not averse to artists working on tracks that are derived from the core idea of the movie, rather than the title.

    Also, isn't using the title 'laziness' in that sense. Starting with a blank canvas is surely more creative than taking a phrase or word and building a song around it?
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    Sark wrote: »
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    "I hate gays" is courteous in your mind?

    But I don't recall anyone saying that, Sark...
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited September 2015 Posts: 1,661
    If Sam Smith's song sounds like this... I'll be very happy. This song sounds like it was made for a Craig Bond film!

    Brian McFadden - Demons:



    As soon as I heard this track I thought "wow, this is a modern James Bond theme song!" If Sam Smith has a done a song like this, cool! The ending even has a John Barry instrumental type moment!
  • RC7RC7
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    But I don't recall anyone saying that, Sark...

    It was. But let's not dwell. I think he knows it was a stupid thing to say and won't be doing it again.

  • ManInCableCarManInCableCar
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    UK group Disclosure also contributed to the theme song

  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Let's not drag these comments up again then. We'll keep the discussions civilised.
  • EiragornEiragorn Hessia
    edited September 2015 Posts: 108
    OK, I wanna have my go at the lyrics, full royalties to me if I'm right!

    Writing's on the wall
    there's a SPECTRE in the shadows.
    The sky is bound to fall,
    There will be no tomorrows.

    Bonus points to everyone who's able to include a NDIB reference :D
  • Gareth007fanGareth007fan
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    I'm sick of the release date changing. Just gone on iTunes and it says 28th now for pre order. What is the official date we can listen to the track ???????????????
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    As long as this is not the norm...
  • Gareth007fanGareth007fan
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    Some of the lyrics.

    Writing's on the wall
    I see Spectre on them all.

  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited September 2015 Posts: 1,661

    "The Spectre of defeat,
    Consumes us all,
    When the writing's on the wall...    "

    If you play 'writing on the wall' on a piano it's a more or less: "da dah da da dah" - "wri...ting's... on... the wall" - catchy notes for a chorus.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited September 2015 Posts: 4,649
    patb wrote: »
    If the stories are connected, can he resist rhyming "wall" and "skyfall" ?

    Like "All time high..." and "Another way to die" or "Live and Let die"

    ;)
  • antovolkantovolk
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    Now the third and final trailer has been confirmed (the first for a Bond film, I believe)...what are the odds that it actually includes the song?

    This rather wonderful fan-made Skyfall trailer included Adele's song:
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
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    Well, try to make a chorus with Quantum Of Solace or Spectre that doesn't sound ridiculous...it sure is hard work, calling for creativity and it is more comfortable just to do lyrics without trying, hence laziness.

    Lyricist Don Black was always able to include the most ridiculous Fleming titles in a wonderful set of lyrics, evoking both ridiculousness and style.

    I mean...Goldfinger? Thunderball? Moonraker? He, but also Hal David, were able to do that. And in all honesty, I think I would also be able to include "SPECTRE" somewhere within the lyrics. It's still possible though.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited September 2015 Posts: 2,138
    Here is something interesting. Remember those leaked Sony emails about Dan and Mendes not keen on using a Sony mobile as they are "not the best" and Bond would only use "thee best". Apple have a major announcement tomorrow. Could there be a Sam Smith/Bond and Apple collab on the cards here? is it plausible Apple are about to announce another slimmer Iphone 6 or a new Iphone 7 and that Bond could be seen with one in Spectre. mmmm! I doubt it but the timing the coincidental timing is food for thought.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    ManInCableCar wrote: »
    UK group Disclosure also contributed to the theme song


    Not into garage-house at all. So let's hope their production assistance was relatively small, and that a big, grand orchestra did all the instrumental support.
  • RC7RC7
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    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Here is something interesting. Remember those leaked Sony emails about Dan and Mendes not keen on using a Sony mobile as they are "not the best" and Bond would only use "thee best". Apple have a major announcement tomorrow. Could there be a Sam Smith/Bond and Apple collab on the cards here? is it plausible Apple are about to announce another slimmer Iphone 6 or a new Iphone 7 and that Bond could be seen with one in Spectre. mmmm! I doubt it but the timing the coincidental timing is food for thought.

    Wrong thread.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    RC7 wrote: »
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    Wrong thread.

    I beg to differ if its Apple then its ITunes, and if there is something to it we may get a snipped at the launch. Therefore it is relevant to the topic.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    About iTunes and Apple I wondered myself.

    Today is the keynote where numerous new products will be presented to the world.

    Remember last time? U2 and Apple have given all iTunes user the free gift of U2's new album. That was a huge, huge marketing coup for U2 and Apple.
  • brinkeguthriebrinkeguthrie Piz Gloria
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    is this on USA iTunes? Will the soundtrack include the song?
  • RC7RC7
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    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
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    I beg to differ if its Apple then its ITunes, and if there is something to it we may get a snipped at the launch. Therefore it is relevant to the topic.

    What I mean is, there is a leaks thread. I have absolutely no idea about emails re. phones. I know it's not spoilerific, but still...
  • OnlyManWhoCanOnlyManWhoCan Greater London
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    About iTunes and Apple I wondered myself.

    Today is the keynote where numerous new products will be presented to the world.

    Remember last time? U2 and Apple have given all iTunes user the free gift of U2's new album. That was a huge, huge marketing coup for U2 and Apple.
    I think it garnered as much bad publicity as good - as many people who HATE U2 woke up to find an album they really didn't want show up on their iPhones!

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