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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited September 2015 Posts: 9,020
    @w2bond

    you get frightening...no, not because you place DAD over SF :))

    but because you seem to be my long lost twin brother when it comes to Bond rankings.

    Not exactly news I know, we have realised that before as our Top 6 was made of the same movies.

    But now, that I have started another Bondathon I consider FYEO and MR Top 10 material. MR was on spot 11 before. FYEO went from 15 to No 7.
    Meaning 9 out of 10 movies are the same in our Top 10 now!

    And even further down in the list it is very similar, with notable exceptions being DAF which remains my No 23 and DAD which is now on No 12 (down from 10).

    I will give my new definitive ranking when I have finished the Bondathon. I'm watching 2 movies a day in random order with someone that hasn't seen most of them.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Most of your list is cool, but
    w2bond wrote: »
    23. QOS (-2)
    Intolerable! :))
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Most of your list is cool, but
    w2bond wrote: »
    23. QOS (-2)
    Intolerable! :))
    Birdleson wrote: »
    It takes people awhile to come around on that one.

    I enjoyed it a lot more than I anticipated but the other 22 films are better :) It's a shame because QoS has some beautiful shots and camera angles but the cuts are too quick to enjoy them (see the car chase for many examples)

  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    @w2bond

    you get frightening...no, not because you place DAD over SF :))

    but because you seem to be my long lost twin brother when it comes to Bond rankings.

    Not exactly news I know, we have realised that before as our Top 6 was made of the same movies.

    But now, that I have started another Bondathon I consider FYEO and MR Top 10 material. MR was on spot 11 before. FYEO went from 15 to No 7.
    Meaning 9 out of 10 movies are the same in our Top 10 now!

    And even further down in the list it is very similar, with notable exceptions being DAF which remains my No 23 and DAD which is now on No 12 (down from 10).

    I will give my new definitive ranking when I have finished the Bondathon. I'm watching 2 movies a day in random order with someone that hasn't seen most of them.

    @BondJasonBond006
    GE was so close to being booted off 6th, but I love Campbell's direction, and the characters. Spectre has a chance of knocking it off.

    I wonder if our reasons are the same.
  • MarcFC15MarcFC15 London
    Posts: 24
    Don’t judge me on some of the rankings, I've been a Bond fan since childhood in 1987 and I've a soft spot for the mid-Moore outings, I watched them as a kid and I always liked their locations and action sequences, they followed the formula well.

    Tomorrow Never Dies I visited the set of, so again, sentimental reasons. It’s also a strong action film with good pacing… anyway here’s the list.

    1. Casino Royale
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. GoldenEye
    4. Skyfall
    5. From Russia With Love
    6. Goldfinger
    7. Tomorrow Never Dies
    8. The Spy Who Loved Me
    9. Octopussy
    10. Licence to Kill
    11. The Living Daylights
    12. A View to a Kill (sentimental reasons, I’ve always enjoyed it)
    13. Moonraker
    14. For Your Eyes Only
    15. The Man with the Golden Gun
    16. You Only Live Twice
    17. Live and Let Die
    18. The World is Not Enough
    19. Diamonds Are Forever
    20. Dr No
    21. Quantum of Solace
    22. Thunderball (Too much underwater dross)
    23. Die Another Day
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    That's a decent ranking.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    That ranking is absolutely great. Anyone who has GE, CR, OHMSS, OP, FRWL , LTK, TSWLM and TND in their Top 10 is spot-on and even TLD almost made that Top 10.
    Impressive! @MarcFC15
  • MarcFC15MarcFC15 London
    Posts: 24
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    That ranking is absolutely great. Anyone who has GE, CR, OHMSS, OP, FRWL , LTK, TSWLM and TND in their Top 10 is spot-on and even TLD almost made that Top 10.
    Impressive! @MarcFC15

    Thanks guys :)

  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    Any man who puts Octopussy in their top ten is alright in my book. Solid top ten all round. A few films I'd put in different spots across the whole list...Doctor No is very low. But that's the joy of being a Bond fan with 23 films to enjoy.
    But OP in a top ten or higher. You're on to a winner. ;)
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    w2bond wrote: »
    The untouchables. Spectre will have a hard time cracking the top 5. GE is on shaky ground

    1. The Living Daylights (+3)
    2. Octopussy (+4)
    3. Casino Royale (-2)
    4. From Russia With Love (-2)
    5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (-2)
    6. Goldeneye (-1)

    Excellent, could easily rewatch
    7. For Your Eyes Only (+2)
    8. The Spy Who Loved Me (+4)
    9. Tomorrow Never Dies (+6)
    10. Moonraker (+12)
    11. Dr No (+5)
    12. Diamonds are Forever (+1)
    13. Licence to Kill(-3)

    Flawed but enjoyable
    14. You Only Live Twice (+9)
    15. A View To A Kill
    16. Goldfinger

    Mostly pacing issues (TB) or just downright bad (DAD)
    17. The Man with the Golden Gun (+2)
    18. Die Another Day (+2)
    19. Thunderball (-11)
    20. Skyfall (-13)

    Didn't do much for me (unfortunate because LALD has many good scenes)
    21. LALD (-5)
    22. TWINE (-4)
    23. QOS (-2)

    @Benny
    :D
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited September 2015 Posts: 17,801
    Benny wrote: »
    Any man who puts Octopussy in their top ten is alright in my book.
    I love OP, but I just can't get it into my top ten! It's just outside, though. What a beautiful looking film...
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    India never looked so good, that's for sure.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2015 Posts: 23,883
    OP is one of the biggest winners in my ongoing SP Bondathon.

    I can't not like that film. The pacing is amazing, Moore is brilliant and everyone is extremely charismatic.

    The only issue is the Tarzan yell, hiss off, sitttt, eyeing up some boobs with a seriously outdated camera, and making fun of the locals during the rickshaw chase.

    If not for the above, it would be a top 3 or 4 for me. It's that entertaining, and so much fun.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,801
    bondjames wrote: »
    OP is one of the biggest winners in my ongoing SP Bondathon.

    I can't not like that film. The pacing is amazing, Moore is brilliant and everyone is extremely charismatic.

    The only issue is the Tarzan yell, hiss off, sitttt, eyeing up some boobs with a seriously outdated camera, and making fun of the locals during the rickshaw chase.

    If not for the above, it would be a top 3 or 4 for me. It's that entertaining, and so much fun.
    Agreed except for the 'Siiiitah!' That's hilarious IMHO!
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited September 2015 Posts: 11,119
    Today British newspaper "The Telegraph" launched their biggest James Bond Poll ever: You can find the poll, simply titled "Which Is The Best Ever Bond film" here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/james-bond-spectre/rank-films-best-worst-poll/. Already a whopping 900 people have voted in the poll. Remember, these are not necessarily Bond fans, but ordinary readers!

    These are the current standings, with preceded by the mean differences I calculated:
    01. +537: "GOLDFINGER"
    02. +497: "CASINO ROYALE"
    03. +467: "FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE"
    04. +325: "DOCTOR NO"
    05. +278: "SKYFALL"
    06. +260: "THE SPY WHO LOVED ME"
    07. +249: "YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE"
    08. +240: "LIVE AND LET DIE"
    09. +164: "THUNDERBALL"
    10. +151: "ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE"
    11. +141: "GOLDENEYE"
    12. +139: "THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN"
    13. +037: "THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS"
    14. +024: "DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER"
    15. +023: "FOR YOUR EYES ONLY"
    16. -018: "LICENCE TO KILL"
    17. -077: "TOMORROW NEVER DIES"
    18. -106: "MOONRAKER"
    19. -130: "QUANTUM OF SOLACE"
    20. -133: "A VIEW TO A KILL"
    21. -134: "OCTOPUSSY"
    22. -161: "THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH"
    23. -300: "DIE ANOTHER DAY"

    So far, all of Connery's first five Bond films are in the TOP 10. Two of Craig's outings are firmly accompanying Connery in the TOP 5. Roger Moore has two outings in the TOP 10. And entering the TOP 10 is Lazenby's only outing as 007.

    Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan are screwed in this poll. No TOP 10 for these actors :-). Three of Brosnan's outings can be found in the BOTTOM 10. So sad....
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I am surprised that the Top Ten is the same as my Top Ten (different order) has been for years (except just lately QOS has nudged out YOLT in mine).

    I find it so fascinating to see what average (newspaper) readers think of the Bond films instead of us geeky, nerdy, Bond fans ;-). Apparently, the two films of Craig and Connery's first three films are really liked most. I really think that Daniel Craig really did something amazing to the franchise. Shall we say...we are experiencing the..."2nd Golden Age of 007" since the mid 1960's?
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    The new movies will always be higher in polls.
    In 10 years we would get a better picture.
    But to say the Craig era is a 2nd golden age is ridiculous.
    It has produced ONE great classic that is CR that will stand the test of time.
    SF on the other hand will have the same fate as TB and be nowhere near the top.
    And QOS...well...
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    But to say the Craig era is a 2nd golden age is ridiculous.

    Someone is ridiculous, I'll give you that. If you want to look at it that way, you can. It's not the success of each film that makes it a Golden Era. It is the overall quality, excitement and perceived renewal that makes it so.

    Well everything can be seen from different perspectives. If you put it that way, I go with it. 2nd golden age.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I don't remember fans or critics, even those who greatly enjoyed the films, going on about a second great era, or about how it was an evolution of franchise and character, during the Brosnan era, if that is what you want to compare it to. It just didn't happen. Like or not, that is the general consensus with the Craig era.

    I'll agree with this. Plus the Brosnan era had no 'great films' just a solid but adequate debut with GE.
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
    Posts: 538
    Interesting poll. My rankings are slight different, but I can respect the results from this one.

    -There's definitely some pro-Connery bias out there. GF isn't even his best!
    -Agree with the placement of Craig's movies.
    -Agree with the public's rank of OHMSS. I don't see the classic that most Bond fans see.
    -Dalton gets crushed here. Ouch! Are they serious?
    -Good on the poll on recognizing DAF's flaws, but it's still getting a Connery boost.
    -Brosnan and Moore's films are about where they belong. GE could use a bit more love.
    -If SP is good, there's going to be a lot of public talk about Craig being the best.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2015 Posts: 23,883
    During my recent Bondathon, Dalton took a bashing (I still like him, and he may be Fleming's Bond, but he was too uncomfortable in way too many scenes for my liking in a back to back viewing with the others).

    Brosnan was much smoother, but too lightweight (literally and acting wise) to be memorable beyond GE (which was great primarily due to the Campbell's brilliant direction and supporting cast choices - anyone could have played Bond in that film).

    Moore was well above average in his best entries but perhaps too pretty to be deadly enough in the role. His line delivery was brilliant though and he certainly had the gravitas and smoothness required.

    Lazenby was physically brilliant and did vulnerable best, but it's not possible to judge him properly on that one film (which happens to be an amazing novel to film and is an incredibly choreographed movie with a magnificent turn by Rigg).

    Craig has a bona fide all time classic in CR (I will post my review in the Bondathon thread shortly) but has been uneven since. QoS is highly underrated as a film due to the idiot who did the editing, and SF is overrated (based on my recent rewatches).

    Connery is the man (based on the Bondathon). Nobody even comes close to him. He has 3 classics (yes, including TB) with the Young trilogy.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2015 Posts: 23,883
    Birdleson wrote: »
    @bondjames , I am right in line with just about all of that. I would have to mention how bad Moore could be in his lesser entries, but yes, at his best he was up near the top. I'd also put GF above the three fine Young classics that you mention.

    Yes, @Birdleson, I agree that Moore was pretty bad when he was playing it for laughs.

    I personally have never really been able to get into GF (I think Connery's performance in that one is a little goofy compared to the Young films...definitely noted it during my recent rewatch.....the edge that Young gave him seems missing to me....the killer look/stare/delivery). I however respect the film immensely for its undeniable contribution to the history of the franchise. Without it, Bond films would be far less iconic. Even SP is going to borrow heavily from that blueprint (larger than life villain, grand sets, tricked out Aston, spunky heroine, thuggish henchman etc. etc.).
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited September 2015 Posts: 11,189
    I was just watching an interview with the cast from Airplane featuring the late...great...Leslie Nielsen.

    He said that "in comedy the moment the audience can see you know the joke, its over and they don't laugh".

    It made me realise that both Brosnan AND Moore were guilty of this (Brosnan particularly).

    But its one reason I'm not a fan of Moore in MR. He's too knowing of the fact its all a joke. Hence I don't laugh.
  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
    Posts: 3,336
    I don't know when i posted last here, so here goes.

    1. CR
    2. OHMSS
    3. FRWL
    4. GF
    5. FYEO
    6. TSWLM
    7. DN
    8. GE
    9. TLD
    10. TB
    11. LTK
    12. SF
    13. LALD
    14. MR
    15. TMWTGG
    16. OP
    17. TWINE
    18. QOS
    19. YOLT
    20. DAF
    21. TND
    22. DAD
    23. AVTAK
  • SJK91SJK91
    Posts: 1,310
    Time for an update (last was February 2015):

    1. Casino Royale (2006) - 10/10
    2. Goldfinger (1964) - 9/10
    3. From Russia With Love (1963) - 9/10
    4. Dr. No (1962) - 8.5/10
    5. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969) 8.5/10
    6. The Living Daylights (1987) 8.5/10
    7. Skyfall (2012) - 8/10
    8. Thunderball (1965) - 8/10
    9. GoldenEye (1995) - 8/10
    10. Licence to Kill (1989) - 7.5/10
    11. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) - 7/10
    12. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977) - 7/10
    13. Octopussy (1983) - 6.5/10
    14. Quantum of Solace (2008) - 6/10
    15. For Your Eyes Only (1981) - 6/10
    16. Diamonds Are Forever (1971) - 6/10
    17. Live and Let Die (1973) - 6/10
    18. The World Is Not Enough (1999) - 6/10
    (Never Say Never Again) [1983] - 6/10
    19. You Only Live Twice (1967) - 6/10
    20. A View to a Kill (1985) -5.5/10
    21. Moonraker (1979) - 5.5/10
    22. Die Another Day (2002) - 5/10
    23. The Man with the Golden Gun (1974) - 5/10


    Some notes:

    - Surprised myself with how "high" I put Quantum of Solace. It hasn't been in the top 15 for a while.
    - OHMSS is a top 5 entry for me for the first time I can remember.
    - Skyfall is not a top 5 entry for the first time I can remember.
    - Lots of 6/10s, I notice. Some fight an uphill battle to get that '6' (Diamonds Are Forever) and others fell from a better score to get it (Quantum of Solace). A lot of those movies were hard to place and are viable to change at any time.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited October 2015 Posts: 4,343
    So... let's try this.

    1. CR
    2. FRWL
    3. GF
    4. SF
    5. TSWLM

    6. GE
    7. OHMSS
    8. DN
    9. TB
    10. QOS
    11. TND

    12. TLD
    13. YOLT
    14. LTK
    15. TMWTGG
    16. FYEO
    17. TWINE

    18. OP
    19. DAF
    20. AVTAK
    21. DAD
    22. MR
    23. LALD

    I already know what you're thinking about QOS and LALD... :-h
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    Posts: 1,263
    @matt_u

    Welcome to the forums. You have a very good list!
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited October 2015 Posts: 4,343
    Mansfield wrote: »
    Welcome to the forums. You have a very good list!

    Thank you very much, M!
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,270
    1) FRWL
    2 & 3) GF and OHMSS
    4) DN
    5) TWINE
    6) GE
    7) TSWLM
    8) TLD
    9) CR
    10) FYEO
    11) SF
    12) OP
    13) YOLT
    14) LALD
    15) TB
    16) TND
    17) LTK
    18) TMWTGG
    19) DAF
    20) MR
    21) DAD
    22) AVTAK
    23) QOS
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    That's a very decent list you have @matt_u a very good top ten anyway. Hard to fault that line up.
    And also a very nice top 12 from @007ClassicBondFan . Always like seeing OP make anyone's top ten. But anything over 13th is good. ;)
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