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Spectre title song - Writing's on the Wall

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  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited September 2015 Posts: 4,043
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  • smittysmitty
    Posts: 725
    [/quote]
    zerozero wrote: »
    One thing is clear, and it's been underlined time and again over the last 20 years or so: Broccoli and Wilson have zero musicality at all. I mean, what were they thinking of?

    It has a few nods here and there but mostly it's "007 goes Emo" and contrary to what Sam Smith says, it is all about him and not Bond.

    Sorry guys, but in my view we were led to expect a golden goose and we got a turkey.

    That's it. It's all about him and his lousy falsetto. Falsetto is not Bond. The sensitive romantic lyrics are not Bond. This song does not serve Fleming's version of Bond, it serves Smith. Had Mendes or EON who easily had the authority told him to knock the falsetto off and tighten up the song, the reception would not have been nearly as critical. Falsetto can work in the hands of seasoned pros like the Bee Gee's. Here it doesn't work.

    For those of you who feel sorry for him and the negative reaction he is getting in here and on the net, he is no little flower. He was all wrong for this, and got a a huge and undeserved gig over vastly more talented acts. And I don't believe bad buzz is good buzz. He can harm the film. He gives the critics amo. It is probably asking way to much for EON to show some backbone, realize they made a serious mistake, and protect their film by moving this whiny mess to the end credits. One could only dream. Ain't gonna happen.

  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    Posts: 1,261
    The instrumental is not bad, the lyrics are also alright, so the problem lies with the artist, i.e. Sam Smith. His high-pitched singing is a bit odd, I actually tried to sing it on the Karaoke version, but stopped after the first bit, otherwise my landlady might have kicked me out of my flat or people would call the police, because they belive, I was torturing a cat (there are actually some stray cats around here. Real cats. Animals. Pets. Like this one.

  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Writing's On The Wall is writing music history.

    It's already on No 1 in the charts in practically all European countries.
    Even in the UK, which is a record as Adele's Skyfall only made it to No 2 in 2012 and didn't reach No 1 in too many countries.

    Sam Smith will have the most successful Bond song ever at this hands.

    I guess people find it not that bad after all.
  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
    Posts: 1,138
    MrLunn wrote: »
    Apologies I'm in the haters' camp here. The nice stings and arrangements can't hide the dodgy lyrics and lack of guts/soul in the song. It insists on itself, forced and a bit pants really.

    Overall it comes below A Man with a Golden Gun and that's saying something.




    I read some of the best twitter reactions. They had far more entertainment value than this dreary affair.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,594
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    Writing's On The Wall is writing music history.

    It's already on No 1 in the charts in practically all European countries.
    Even in the UK, which is a record as Adele's Skyfall only made it to No 2 in 2012 and didn't reach No 1 in too many countries.

    Sam Smith will have the most successful Bond song ever at this hands.

    I guess people find it not that bad after all.

    Negativity like what we're seeing usually stems from a (very) vocal minority. Everyone has opinions, both positive and negative, but it sometimes seems those with the negative opinions feel they most need to be heard.
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    edited September 2015 Posts: 1,261
    MrLunn wrote: »
    <img src="http://s9.postimg.org/492eplorj/song_is_out.jpg">;

    limited edition cover.


    :)) =)) =D>

    BTW, is BondJasonBond006 the agent of Sam Smith?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited September 2015 Posts: 6,396
    Edit.
  • MrLunnMrLunn Lunnigham
    Posts: 60
    <img src="http://s28.postimg.org/eyvyefmz1/sam.png">;
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    smitty wrote: »
    zerozero wrote: »
    One thing is clear, and it's been underlined time and again over the last 20 years or so: Broccoli and Wilson have zero musicality at all. I mean, what were they thinking of?

    It has a few nods here and there but mostly it's "007 goes Emo" and contrary to what Sam Smith says, it is all about him and not Bond.

    Sorry guys, but in my view we were led to expect a golden goose and we got a turkey.

    That's it. It's all about him and his lousy falsetto. Falsetto is not Bond. The sensitive romantic lyrics are not Bond. This song does not serve Fleming's version of Bond, it serves Smith. Had Mendes or EON who easily had the authority told him to knock the falsetto off and tighten up the song, the reception would not have been nearly as critical. Falsetto can work in the hands of seasoned pros like the Bee Gee's. Here it doesn't work.

    For those of you who feel sorry for him and the negative reaction he is getting in here and on the net, he is no little flower. He was all wrong for this, and got a a huge and undeserved gig over vastly more talented acts. And I don't believe bad buzz is good buzz. He can harm the film. He gives the critics amo. It is probably asking way to much for EON to show some backbone, realize they made a serious mistake, and protect their film by moving this whiny mess to the end credits. One could only dream. Ain't gonna happen.

    [/quote]

    Spot on my friend and the success of Skyfall made EON think they needed another world wide smash with the biggest artist of the moment whether they were suitable for the job or not which Smith is on the evidence of this effort certainly not.

    The thing is if he knocks his falsetto off he's got nothing it's his trademark. I certainly hope EON doesn't think this is way to go from now on. Before Skyfall everyone chosen was established and proven in their field not some mega selling fly by night who'll be forgotten in a decade.

    Are we destined for this from now on, no experimenting or shaking up the formula, that being said it mirrors the state of commercial music today.

    Oh @RC7 I'm not from Yorkshire I only live here.

  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Shardlake wrote: »
    smitty wrote: »
    zerozero wrote: »
    One thing is clear, and it's been underlined time and again over the last 20 years or so: Broccoli and Wilson have zero musicality at all. I mean, what were they thinking of?

    It has a few nods here and there but mostly it's "007 goes Emo" and contrary to what Sam Smith says, it is all about him and not Bond.

    Sorry guys, but in my view we were led to expect a golden goose and we got a turkey.

    That's it. It's all about him and his lousy falsetto. Falsetto is not Bond. The sensitive romantic lyrics are not Bond. This song does not serve Fleming's version of Bond, it serves Smith. Had Mendes or EON who easily had the authority told him to knock the falsetto off and tighten up the song, the reception would not have been nearly as critical. Falsetto can work in the hands of seasoned pros like the Bee Gee's. Here it doesn't work.

    For those of you who feel sorry for him and the negative reaction he is getting in here and on the net, he is no little flower. He was all wrong for this, and got a a huge and undeserved gig over vastly more talented acts. And I don't believe bad buzz is good buzz. He can harm the film. He gives the critics amo. It is probably asking way to much for EON to show some backbone, realize they made a serious mistake, and protect their film by moving this whiny mess to the end credits. One could only dream. Ain't gonna happen.

    Spot on my friend and the success of Skyfall made EON think they needed another world wide smash with the biggest artist of the moment whether they were suitable for the job or not which Smith is on the evidence of this effort certainly not.

    The thing is if he knocks his falsetto off he's got nothing it's his trademark. I certainly hope EON doesn't think this is way to go from now on. Before Skyfall everyone chosen was established and proven in their field not some mega selling fly by night who'll be forgotten in a decade.

    Are we destined for this from now on, no experimenting or shaking up the formula, that being said it mirrors the state of commercial music today.

    Oh @RC7 I'm not from Yorkshire I only live here.

    [/quote]

    You're equally miserable.
  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
    Posts: 1,138
    'I never shoot to miss' must be one of the daftest lyrics I've ever heard. Has anyone, anywhere, ever 'shot to miss'? That's not even a phrase, because it's almost an oxymoron.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    For all of you: A better edited version in HQ .mp3 format. DJ's and voices are edited out. Fel free to download:
    HTTP://PICOSONG.COM/Syaq
  • GunbarrelGunbarrel
    Posts: 32
    I guess I'll have a proper opinion once I can stay awake through the end of the song.

    Actually I blame Jack White and Alicia Keyes for this. After the awesome and rocking "You Know My Name", on the next one it seems like they were pushing to be even edgier, which would have been great if the song hadn't sucked. And because of that EON has decided to play it safe since then with these old timey songs. Oh well.
  • eddychaputeddychaput Montreal, Canada
    Posts: 364
    Some people who don't like the song have shared interesting criticisms. Others have offered little more than pissed off attitude with little actual content in their remarks.

    I really, truly enjoy visiting the MI6 message board community, but I'm done with this particular thread.
  • smittysmitty
    Posts: 725
    Lyrics courtesy of Hallmark cards.
    And another thing. A very few on here who are having fits over spoilers, listen to the lyrics of this thing, they are the biggest spoiler of them all. The lyrics totally reflect the Swann/Bond relationship and the ending in the leaked scripts.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    smitty wrote: »
    zerozero wrote: »
    One thing is clear, and it's been underlined time and again over the last 20 years or so: Broccoli and Wilson have zero musicality at all. I mean, what were they thinking of?

    It has a few nods here and there but mostly it's "007 goes Emo" and contrary to what Sam Smith says, it is all about him and not Bond.

    Sorry guys, but in my view we were led to expect a golden goose and we got a turkey.

    That's it. It's all about him and his lousy falsetto. Falsetto is not Bond. The sensitive romantic lyrics are not Bond. This song does not serve Fleming's version of Bond, it serves Smith. Had Mendes or EON who easily had the authority told him to knock the falsetto off and tighten up the song, the reception would not have been nearly as critical. Falsetto can work in the hands of seasoned pros like the Bee Gee's. Here it doesn't work.

    For those of you who feel sorry for him and the negative reaction he is getting in here and on the net, he is no little flower. He was all wrong for this, and got a a huge and undeserved gig over vastly more talented acts. And I don't believe bad buzz is good buzz. He can harm the film. He gives the critics amo. It is probably asking way to much for EON to show some backbone, realize they made a serious mistake, and protect their film by moving this whiny mess to the end credits. One could only dream. Ain't gonna happen.

    Spot on my friend and the success of Skyfall made EON think they needed another world wide smash with the biggest artist of the moment whether they were suitable for the job or not which Smith is on the evidence of this effort certainly not.

    The thing is if he knocks his falsetto off he's got nothing it's his trademark. I certainly hope EON doesn't think this is way to go from now on. Before Skyfall everyone chosen was established and proven in their field not some mega selling fly by night who'll be forgotten in a decade.

    Are we destined for this from now on, no experimenting or shaking up the formula, that being said it mirrors the state of commercial music today.

    Oh @RC7 I'm not from Yorkshire I only live here.

    You're equally miserable. [/quote]

    Pot calling the kettle black.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Well, the kettle is black. Pot is green, money sucking green.
  • RC7RC7
    edited September 2015 Posts: 10,512
    Shardlake wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    smitty wrote: »
    zerozero wrote: »
    One thing is clear, and it's been underlined time and again over the last 20 years or so: Broccoli and Wilson have zero musicality at all. I mean, what were they thinking of?

    It has a few nods here and there but mostly it's "007 goes Emo" and contrary to what Sam Smith says, it is all about him and not Bond.

    Sorry guys, but in my view we were led to expect a golden goose and we got a turkey.

    That's it. It's all about him and his lousy falsetto. Falsetto is not Bond. The sensitive romantic lyrics are not Bond. This song does not serve Fleming's version of Bond, it serves Smith. Had Mendes or EON who easily had the authority told him to knock the falsetto off and tighten up the song, the reception would not have been nearly as critical. Falsetto can work in the hands of seasoned pros like the Bee Gee's. Here it doesn't work.

    For those of you who feel sorry for him and the negative reaction he is getting in here and on the net, he is no little flower. He was all wrong for this, and got a a huge and undeserved gig over vastly more talented acts. And I don't believe bad buzz is good buzz. He can harm the film. He gives the critics amo. It is probably asking way to much for EON to show some backbone, realize they made a serious mistake, and protect their film by moving this whiny mess to the end credits. One could only dream. Ain't gonna happen.

    Spot on my friend and the success of Skyfall made EON think they needed another world wide smash with the biggest artist of the moment whether they were suitable for the job or not which Smith is on the evidence of this effort certainly not.

    The thing is if he knocks his falsetto off he's got nothing it's his trademark. I certainly hope EON doesn't think this is way to go from now on. Before Skyfall everyone chosen was established and proven in their field not some mega selling fly by night who'll be forgotten in a decade.

    Are we destined for this from now on, no experimenting or shaking up the formula, that being said it mirrors the state of commercial music today.

    Oh @RC7 I'm not from Yorkshire I only live here.

    You're equally miserable.

    Pot calling the kettle black. [/quote]

    Mod edit: Profanity removed.
  • chipstickschipsticks NOT on TheDanielCraigForum where they think know Daniel Craig personally and Léa and Monica are ugly
    edited September 2015 Posts: 560
    I thought of Bond's parents, Tracy and Vesper and his relationship to Madeleine Swann, fear, sadness, loss,longing listening to this song and I like it :|
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,589
    I have been listening to it all day...I am warming up to it more and more. :)
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,860
    DoctorKaufmann wrote: »
    The instrumental is not bad, the lyrics are also alright, so the problem lies with the artist, i.e. Sam Smith. His high-pitched singing is a bit odd, I actually tried to sing it on the Karaoke version, but stopped after the first bit, otherwise my landlady might have kicked me out of my flat or people would call the police, because they belive, I was torturing a cat (there are actually some stray cats around here. Real cats. Animals. Pets. Like this one.


    that is actually more catchy and better then the sam smith song can this be Spectre's title song?
  • LofqvistLofqvist
    Posts: 56
    Heard it thirteen times by now, cannot stop listen to it. Probably the best Bond-score ever. In fact, when I have watched the latest movies in the series I have held two of these as the best in the series. But I remember that in both Casino Royal and Skyfall I have felt that they are afraid of letting go, to be emotional all the way. Craigs performance in CS after trying to save Vesper is perfect. But the music has been a little bit on the safe side. I felt the same with Skyfall, the only time the music left its save spot was with Tennysson. With Writing on the wall, emotion is back. Almost to much, but, it grows and I am really looking forward to watching in the movie.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited September 2015 Posts: 4,043
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    smitty wrote: »
    zerozero wrote: »
    One thing is clear, and it's been underlined time and again over the last 20 years or so: Broccoli and Wilson have zero musicality at all. I mean, what were they thinking of?

    It has a few nods here and there but mostly it's "007 goes Emo" and contrary to what Sam Smith says, it is all about him and not Bond.

    Sorry guys, but in my view we were led to expect a golden goose and we got a turkey.

    That's it. It's all about him and his lousy falsetto. Falsetto is not Bond. The sensitive romantic lyrics are not Bond. This song does not serve Fleming's version of Bond, it serves Smith. Had Mendes or EON who easily had the authority told him to knock the falsetto off and tighten up the song, the reception would not have been nearly as critical. Falsetto can work in the hands of seasoned pros like the Bee Gee's. Here it doesn't work.

    For those of you who feel sorry for him and the negative reaction he is getting in here and on the net, he is no little flower. He was all wrong for this, and got a a huge and undeserved gig over vastly more talented acts. And I don't believe bad buzz is good buzz. He can harm the film. He gives the critics amo. It is probably asking way to much for EON to show some backbone, realize they made a serious mistake, and protect their film by moving this whiny mess to the end credits. One could only dream. Ain't gonna happen.

    Spot on my friend and the success of Skyfall made EON think they needed another world wide smash with the biggest artist of the moment whether they were suitable for the job or not which Smith is on the evidence of this effort certainly not.

    The thing is if he knocks his falsetto off he's got nothing it's his trademark. I certainly hope EON doesn't think this is way to go from now on. Before Skyfall everyone chosen was established and proven in their field not some mega selling fly by night who'll be forgotten in a decade.

    Are we destined for this from now on, no experimenting or shaking up the formula, that being said it mirrors the state of commercial music today.

    Oh @RC7 I'm not from Yorkshire I only live here.

    You're equally miserable.

    Pot calling the kettle black.

    [/quote]

    Well done my friend I've just flagged that, totally unnecessary!
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited September 2015 Posts: 7,594
    Can a mod come in here and rename this thread "Writing's On the Wall - Official Cesspool of Hate"? Think it'd be a nice foil to the other thread we've got now.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Shardlake wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    smitty wrote: »
    zerozero wrote: »
    One thing is clear, and it's been underlined time and again over the last 20 years or so: Broccoli and Wilson have zero musicality at all. I mean, what were they thinking of?

    It has a few nods here and there but mostly it's "007 goes Emo" and contrary to what Sam Smith says, it is all about him and not Bond.

    Sorry guys, but in my view we were led to expect a golden goose and we got a turkey.

    That's it. It's all about him and his lousy falsetto. Falsetto is not Bond. The sensitive romantic lyrics are not Bond. This song does not serve Fleming's version of Bond, it serves Smith. Had Mendes or EON who easily had the authority told him to knock the falsetto off and tighten up the song, the reception would not have been nearly as critical. Falsetto can work in the hands of seasoned pros like the Bee Gee's. Here it doesn't work.

    For those of you who feel sorry for him and the negative reaction he is getting in here and on the net, he is no little flower. He was all wrong for this, and got a a huge and undeserved gig over vastly more talented acts. And I don't believe bad buzz is good buzz. He can harm the film. He gives the critics amo. It is probably asking way to much for EON to show some backbone, realize they made a serious mistake, and protect their film by moving this whiny mess to the end credits. One could only dream. Ain't gonna happen.

    Spot on my friend and the success of Skyfall made EON think they needed another world wide smash with the biggest artist of the moment whether they were suitable for the job or not which Smith is on the evidence of this effort certainly not.

    The thing is if he knocks his falsetto off he's got nothing it's his trademark. I certainly hope EON doesn't think this is way to go from now on. Before Skyfall everyone chosen was established and proven in their field not some mega selling fly by night who'll be forgotten in a decade.

    Are we destined for this from now on, no experimenting or shaking up the formula, that being said it mirrors the state of commercial music today.

    Oh @RC7 I'm not from Yorkshire I only live here.

    You're equally miserable.

    Pot calling the kettle black.

    You're still a cunt.

    Well done my friend I've just flagged that, totally unnecessary![/quote]

    Flag away.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    RC7 is showing his true colours now, I know I'm not a forum darling like him that you all seem to love but seriously this is disgusting and the mods better do something about it.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,594
    What's disgusting is the gross misuse of the quoting. Was it RC7 that said "Well done my friend I've just flagged that..."? I think not!

    Also @RC7 I seem to have lost track of your opinion of the song? Did I see that you posted that you liked it? Then didn't like it? I'll have to look back...
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Shardlake wrote: »
    RC7 is showing his true colours now, I know I'm not a forum darling like him that you all seem to love but seriously this is disgusting and the mods better do something about it.

    I actually enjoy your input, you being a cunt is irrelevant. But you are...
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,589
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Can a mod come in here and rename this thread "Writing's On the Wall - Official Cesspool of Hate"? Think it'd be a nice foil to the other thread we've got now.

    No doubt, eh?

    Back to the song itself...I am picturing a lot of earthtones in the title sequence: sand and steel, like some of what was seen in the QoS titles. For some reason, the Tangier and Mexico City set pieces are what I think of most with the WotW.
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