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The only time I felt ashamed to be a Bond fan was 1995-2002.
This song is disappointing ( bit like AWTD) but not an embrassment. Like AWTD it feels like it needed more work. Could have been a lot better.
And I wouldn't call any of that 'lowest common denominator' either. They're all artists. 'lcd' stuff to me is the kind of mass produced tat you would get from One Direction or the like.
It's fantastic, especially the more I listen to it. I wouldn't go so far as to label it the 'most significant Bond theme ever', albeit it certainly is one of the most unique compositions, and indeed closely indicative of Craig's depiction of Bond and the film's theme. Sadly my video has been muted, but if you play the song 7-seconds in (immediately when the first logo appears), it may convince you as well.
https://youtu.be/mMYE8gSZaa8
;)
My favourite themes are Thunderball, LALD and probably Skyfall. I see Smith's song as a departure, but not an overly radical one.
I like it. the melody is good. the orchestration is both sparse and deep at different points. Its almost like the backlash has got momentum and people are enjoying trashing it for the sake of it. I think it will be a fitting song for the tone of the film. the trailers are very dark in mood, very subdued. this fits that IMO. A rollicking Tom Jones or LALD style theme would clash terribly, all for the sake of purposefully sounding more like something the fans want.
Eon should never pander to the fans. They should be respectful of the heritage, but take us in interesting new directions we never thought of, otherwise its non-creative fan fiction.
I agree. I have realized for awhile that I actually like the song but its Sam's singing.
This cover is a perfect example.
I could tolerate it more personally, yes.
I'm sure there's some Freudian element involved that I'm consciously unaware of but definitely yes, it seems more suited to a female from my standpoint.
100% agree.
+1
A couple of points:
-I don't see the vitriol here in general. I see deep disappointment among some long time fans of this franchise, but that's it. Some are having fun with it, but that's to be expected. Most detractors just don't like it. Period
-I agree that Tom Jones or LALD style may not fit the tone of the film
-I agree that EON should probably not pander to fans. However, by that same token, they should not pander to popular opinion/flavour of the month/year either. Smith was chosen first and foremost because he is currently popular.
-I agree that they should take us in new directions.
You and I just have a disagreement on whether Smith's song is any good or not, and whether it in fact does take us in a new, creative direction, or whether it's a departure. I think not, and you and other fans of it think it does. That's all....
Well said...
I wish though that this song wasn't tarnishing your excitement for the film :(
...Smith's song is kinda like wearing sneakers with a finely tailered suit . Keep eye contact ..don't look down and you should be okay :D
Thx @mcdonbb. As I said before, I'm happy my overzealous enthusiasm has been deflated a bit, so I can go in without expectations.
I'm seeing it in full IMAX and if they have the freaking gunbarrel at the start, a kick 'a' pretitles (both look to be the case) and don't have Bond crying this time in the film, I think I'll walk out of there on top of the moon.....
Even Smith may be tolerable, if they add a little more orchestra to the film version, shorten it a little and if DK's title sequence is up to par (more than likely)...
The post-titles sequence/scene had better be upbeat to raise my mood after the song though...
I'd say it's better. Much better.
You're welcome ...and I think you (we) are safe on all those counts.
They are not the general public thank God.
A lot of those haters use Sam Smith to live out their homophonia in the forums where they think all is fair game.
If Sam Smith was more like Robbie Williams no one would even complain about the falsetto singing.
To lead into patb's response, I started by saying the fall out is due to homophobia is a cheap shot. In much the same way many are fed up with hearing the negative comments, the suggestion that keeps showing up in response about SS's sexuality is just as tired.
And this is from someone (myself) who stood for hours to get to the front row to see Adam Lambert and Queen (know that was a gig!) - they could produce a cracking song (I digress)
Everything to do with SS's voice.
If the exact same song had been presented by Tom Jones it would be a fair supposition to say the reaction would be worse with even more disappointment from EVERYONE not just the Bond fraternity
So overall I'm not really a fan, but it's far from the worst Bond song and I'm glad they at least tried something new.
That's not unusual ;)
Now, while I think it is serviceable as a Bond theme, it didn't entirely live up to the potential of Sam Smith. While he may have showcased the full range of his voice, I think it would have been a better direction to impose a limit. The aspect I most enjoy about the song is the music itself, which reaches a crescendo at 3:24-3:39. That part gives me the goosebumps. His falsetto interrupts that moment quite prominently. I don't have a problem with falsetto and think at some points it is well executed in the song, but when he takes it up to the stratosphere, his words are no longer comprehensible to me. His vocals are a mixed bag for me because I think his opening chorus is simply fantastic. The two other pieces of criticism I have for the song is that it is too slow, which could have been overlooked if not for the song lacking a big vocal ending. The lack of a big moment at the end is disappointing for me because it feels like the vocals peak early.
That being said, I still like the song and hum the melody occasionally. It probably won't be one that I will be humming for too long unless the melody is woven into the score. Overall, it feels like a formidable effort, but a missed opportunity since it doesn't leave a significant impression with the vocals.
Any grown adult who decides not to go to see the film as s form of protest about the song needs to have a quiet word with themselves.
I don't think anyone said that was the case. @BondJasonBond006 was saying that 'some' of the bored and frustrated youth that frequent social media would use any excuse to have a pop his sexuality. I've seen comments such as 'well gay', 'effeminate shit', 'limp-wristed' and 'that faggot Sam Smith'. Obviously no one on here has said those things, well, bar a few. I don't see why his sexuality is a factor at all and if you're going to use phrases you 'didn't realise' were a slight on a man's sexuality perhaps you should broaden your friendship group. I don't believe anyone here is 'homophobic', at least I'd hope not.
That's pretty much how I feel