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After "Now the whole world's gonna know that you died scratching my balls!" Not so much belly laughs but sniggers.
Do I see a bit of sarcasm there. I'm only asking because I've been told it fades black after bond shoots his gone. That's not very good if theres no blood running down traditionally.
Yea they laughed. Ball jokes always get laughs lol.
I want to see how the scene plays out in my own. SP was not what @Pierce2Daniel was hoping for ...and I respect that and his opinion but if I am enjoying the film up to this point I suspect I may see it differently.
And btw I don't mean any of that disrespectful to @P2D ..not everyone agrees.
I loved SF but I thought the ending was weak and too sentimental. Silva ended up just being suicidal... didn't ring true with me. Plus it would have been far more entertaining and consistent if Bond and M had not made complete peace.
Yes I do prefer the original Dec version. What appeals is that it is revealed that Blofeld was simply brought into the Oberhauser family - adopted as a child due to circumstances etc. as opposed to actually being son of Oberhauser, adopted or blood.
I prefer that Blofeld have no meaningful family connection to Oberhauser. I find that to be a bastardization of Fleming.
Blofeld and Hanns Oberhauser are both Fleming characters. It's rather trite to try and connect a deranged arch villian such as Blofeld as blood offspring of a true and loved mentor to Bond. Very bizarre.
Fleming did not connect these two characters in any way.
There were plenty of other ways to concoct a fresh Blofeld origins story, which is what this film is much about.
The more I think about it, the whole notion of Blofeld and Bond having any past childhood connection is tiresome.
I don't like it. Adds nothing. Its more contrived personal drama for Bond.
I do like the presence of the cat though. I like that this Blofeld is evolving into classic screen Blofeld, scar etc.
If the We Have All The Time In The World line has been dropped at the end, that does put a damper I think on a potential YOLT (Fleming) type sequel- a Shatterhand, Castle Death type follow-up.
The WHATTITW line effectively doomed Swann, but if the line is gone, then she doesn't have to be gone.
I thought I read on these boards somewhere, that Waltz and Seydoux might have been lined up for a sequel - that they had been approached at least, just in case.
Seems Eon is leaving the possibilities for sequel up in the air for now, by dropping the Louis Armstrong line, which kind of boxed them into a Blofeld-will-kill-Swann scenario.
Assuming the Louis Armstrong line has indeed been dropped.....
I think I'm not too far from reality to assume he'll escape from captivity fairly quickly and has Madeleine assassinated. ;)
BTW, I am almost certain we'll be doomed to see Judi Dench's M's gohst again, I'd like to know, do we get to see Vesper's audition tape as well?
I hope so [-O<
Hope P&W don't either ..at least they had sense enough to leave until got recruited back.
How did they fix the continuity error in the last act? Here, Madeleine leaves London and then gets captured by Oberhauser in Paris, only to return to London, where she is then kept in the old MI6 building. All in a period of one evening.
And a dentist chair? They should have used the solar furnace from the 1st draft. That would have been more original.
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Fleming only tortured him once and that was it.
Fleming understood torture is prelude to death.
It's a slower way of killing someone.
Bond was lucky to survive LeChiffre. He got rescued. Surviving another strapped down helpless torture session is not realistic, even in Bond fantasy world.
Continuation authors though are way more guilty of trying to establish their CR torture bonafides than Eon has been. We shall see. Maybe the SP scene isn't too greivous.
Too bad someone couldn't have leaked the Dec script revisions.
I suddenly feel left out, somehow.This having to find plot stuff out in theatre, like everyone else is so droll.
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Not too sure, as I've said I know nothing about the scripts. Not read any of the leaks.
But in the final film, Bond and the Mi6 team meet in a safehouse (I won't spoil the name of the building as it's a great reference) and Madeline decides it's not her fight. She leaves and it's implied she is captured. When Bond confronts Blofeld, it is revealed that Madeline has been caught. Nothing about Paris.
Yep, it's not exactly a dentist's chair but it's weird. Bond is lobotomized.
The scar is very convincing. I really loved it. For me it was the perfect Blofeld look, it's a shame Waltz never gets the chance to truly shine, he's most effective when you only see him in silhouette. His formal introduction in the film is essentially a riff on Bond's meeting with Dr.No, in fact lines are directly referenced from that line, in particular there is a new version of the "Our asylums are full" of psychopaths line, and something very similar to the moment when Bond discovers the fish tank in DN only this time with an comet.
Also the scene in the trailer where Moneypenny gives Bond his "personal effects from Skyfall" is totally different in the film. She gives it to him in a courtyard.
That sounds ludicrous.
So they nixed the "We found her changing planes at Charles du Gaulle, on her way to a new life" line, alright.
One of my favourite parts of the December script is during the Rome chase, Bond switching on the "Atmosphere" switch which then starts blaring out Dusty Springfield's "Spooky". Has that been cut too?
It seems that I think to avoid the leaks, they changed up the poker scene in the December draft to another CR callback - the torture scene. So the way Blofeld is revealed as you described makes sense - I just hope it works on screen....
I don't either. How in the heck can he be lobotomized? It doesn't make sense. He would be seriously incapacitated for the rest of the film. I kind of hate to ask a question like this because I think I don't want to know the answer before I see the film in 2 weeks. Maybe it is a mini lobotomy. Sorry, bad joke.
Personally I still miss the days of the over plotted Maibaum\Wilson scripts like OP and TLD!
No Dusty. Would have been a nice touch, another song plays for like two seconds (I think it may be from Cabaret). The car chase is a big disappointment. It's mostly just Bond chatting to Moneypenny about locating 'The Pale King', it also features Craig's worst line delivery of the film: "Oooooh of course, Mr. White!" There is very little actual 'chase' aside what in the trailer. Which is surprising, considering they took weeks to film it.
I don't wanna ruin the lobotomy scene for people as it would seem to be one of the few genuine surprises even for those who have read the scripts.
One of my favorite parts from the script involved a Fiat in the Rome car "chase."
Was there a a short scene with a small Fiat?
I've only skimmed the spoilers from people who have been lucky enough to see SP already but it's clear there have been a few changes since the December revision, notably the lair scenes in Morroco. It's left me feeling a bit uneasy though for the finished movie.
I was pretty settled in my mind that what would appear on-screen would be pretty much what I had read, with perhaps a few tweaks to the 3rd act. I'd played the movie out in my head and even though I wasn't 100% about everything in the script, I was still looking forward to seeing that story onscreen, which now of course we never will. Like I say, an odd feeling of loss for something I never really had if that makes sense.