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Somehow, I don't think he really would of appreciated his character involved in such flipping nonsense, Sorry
I think he'd appreciate his book transferred beautifully to the big screen and I think he'd forget minor issues if they arose. Trust me, if good ol' Ian hasn't risen up to kill the masses after Roger's run as Bond rest assured we are safe with Dan as Bond, a true embodiment of the literary Bond.
Yes, thank you. Common sense is still alive and well!
I agree Moore was a bit inept sometimes in the role and we saw again levels of Big Top and Circus etc at the time, but it never degenerated to the level of that bit in CR, Don't want to keep on, but it was a stupid bit of nonsense. Agent James Bond 007 simply does not sit naked on a hollowed out chair having his privates molested and uttering out asinine and embarrassing remarks
Apart from that and (for the most part) Casino Royale was a good film and a breath of fresh air after Brosnan
@LeChiffre I am happy to see another big Craig Bond find lurking around the site. I knew the first time I saw you post that you had great taste! ;)
That's it's no longer funny. Just awkward.
Craig's humorously handling his ball scratching is a close runnerup.
When Solange says "But I'm not that cruel..." and Bond says "Maybe you're just out of practice." You could feel the women melt in the audience.
And then just a moment later driving the DB5 round the entrance way of The One and Only Club - "Welcome to my home."
thats your opinion, and you're allowed to have it...
personally, i find his delivery and humor quite fitting and suitable after the pun-ishing efforts of Morosnan
I don't think Moore type humour is Craig's style. Craig's humour is a lot more subtle, and less spoon fed. It might not make you laugh beyond belief, but it'll give you a smirk.
The way I see it, Bond never laughs beyond control. The movies are meant to make guys feel like Bond. Bond smirks. Bond's jokes make us smirk. Thus, making us feel Bond-ish. Maybe I'm trying too hard on that one.
you do realize this sequence, sans some dialog changes, was lifted directly from Fleming's novel don't you?... so by calling the material infantile, you are also calling Fleming's work infantile....
personally - I agree with Le Chiffre's comments in the film, and it also snubs it nose to the previous Bond films - "You know, I never understood all these elaborate tortures. It's the simplest thing... to cause more pain than a man can possibly endure." .... which in fact is quite true.. i would rather be sawed in half by a laser than have my manhood beaten with a knotted rope.
There's some more of the broad sweeping generalized statements again.... I personally didn't feel left cold or disillusioned (whatever that means)... and I was a viewer, therefor your statement is inaccurate.
Me as well, it reminds me of Dalton in LTK taking off in the plane with all that cash, like Fleming's Bond they portray private humour. Craig also does it in CR whan Vespa leaves him on the train and he has a wry chuckle to himself.
Another great piece of humour in DC's films is Mr Fukutu...I'm sure Fleming would have approved.
The over use of humour in Moore's and Brosnan's films at times ruin them for me.
The only things that were remained constant IIRC were:
- Bollock whipping torture
= Seat cut out
- Vesper's life supposedly threatened
- Le Chiffre questioning Bond for the code to his account
- Le Chiffre being killed mid-torture by higher ups (SMERSH/Quantum)
Everything else is different. I take it what Baltimore_007's calling infantile are the numerous changes made by Paul Haggis, Neil Purvis & Robert Wade, not Fleming's original material.
Look who's acting infantile now. Baltimore_007's speaking for himself and no one else.
Yes, I can imagine the stunt much better with some stirring Barry music.
I saw a whole bunch of older Bond fans cringing and little kids laughing in 1979. A lot more people here strongly seem to dislike Moonraker more than every official entry save DAD. If the majority rules, then <i>Moonraker</i>=<b>cringeworthy</b> . I know I still cringe at the thought of those sight and sound gags, of which most are not funny. I can get that from Matt Helm.
By the way, it was Q who delivered the re-entry line, not Moore. I am appalled that such a big Moore supporter such as yourself missed that one ;)
Best Craig humor to me was his response to Mathis regarding Fields and her handcuffs, which was delivered more like Connery would have than Moore.
Although this thread is funnier than anything uttered in CR or QOS, in my opinion!
CR -
Vesper: Even accountants have imagination. How was your lamb?
Bond: Skewered! One sympathizes.
QOS -
Bond: We're teachers on sabbatical...and we just won the lottery.
Well put. I too find QoS to have more humor than most do: "It looks like someone wants to kill you."
He should be though. He's a dead ringer for Sid James.
- Vesper correctly guessing Bond's backstory, then saying "I like this poker thing"
- "If they wanted his soul, they should have made a deal with a priest"
- How blunt Bond is to Camille in the boat chase. "Navigate"
Vesper: "Smart?"
Bond: "No. Single!"
not acting infantile at all good sir.
Good one, I had forgotten that exchange. Big laugh from my audiences and again, ties in to character as well as being funny.
Bond: Allow me.
"Oh, I'm sorry. That last hand, it nearly killed"
EPIC & FUNNY
It took me a while to hear Solange say "You like married women, don't you, James?", so this joke didn't catch on for me for a long time.
In arrogance we trust
:))
But that one's great too :
Bond : Dry Martini
Bartender : Shaken or stirred?
Bond : Do I look like I give a damn?
No harm done. I was speaking for myself and no-one else. I haven't read the Royale novel and only seen the film but will always insist the torture scene was a bit cringeworthy and from this end it all seemed a bit silly. Needless to say Flemings work was always of the highest caliber and of great respect but every now and again I see things that I may deem questionable. One thing about Craig as Bond I enjoy is that it is usually played straight faced and there's none of the Moore-esque japery from years past, and said it before he was a vast improvement on Brosnan for the most part in bringing back a bit of realism to the role