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If you could re-make any of the Bond movies... (Future of bond)
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The other day it hit me that Daniel Craig has been Bond for 10 years.. I realized at some point we need a new Bond actor and we have three options right now.. (1) Do a pre-quel? Cast a 20 something younger Bond, showcasing him in the navy, his training to be a spy, or maybe even copy the young bond novels? (2) Cast a 30 something year old actor to do what Brosnan did, new film, new plot, no continuation.. Or (3) Re-make some of the old films??
This leads to my overall question. If you could re-make any of the Bond films, what film(s), would you re-make?? How would you do it? Good idea or bad idea??
I would personally re-make Thunderball but change the story completely. "TB", is my favorite Bond film by far and I think it would be crazy with today's technology. They could have most of the same script but change specific scenes like for example, that one scene where Bond shoots a shark and then discovers the submarine.
Change that to a scene involving Bond being trapped by a few sharks in the submarine, and maybe have a shortened version of the underwater fight here with a changed ending. Add a bunch of new scenes, new fight sequences, kind of like Craig's action scenes, put scenes like that in and it changes the whole movie but keeps the general idea. Keep the re-breather gadget, shark tank/pool idea, stolen nukes, DB5, hospital scene and opening with Bond on the jet pack... Have Christopher Nolan direct..
Okay I know everyone thinks I am completely insane but I don't know how else to keep the Bond series fresh.
I think they need to do something that they have not done before.
This leads to my overall question. If you could re-make any of the Bond films, what film(s), would you re-make?? How would you do it? Good idea or bad idea??
I would personally re-make Thunderball but change the story completely. "TB", is my favorite Bond film by far and I think it would be crazy with today's technology. They could have most of the same script but change specific scenes like for example, that one scene where Bond shoots a shark and then discovers the submarine.
Change that to a scene involving Bond being trapped by a few sharks in the submarine, and maybe have a shortened version of the underwater fight here with a changed ending. Add a bunch of new scenes, new fight sequences, kind of like Craig's action scenes, put scenes like that in and it changes the whole movie but keeps the general idea. Keep the re-breather gadget, shark tank/pool idea, stolen nukes, DB5, hospital scene and opening with Bond on the jet pack... Have Christopher Nolan direct..
Okay I know everyone thinks I am completely insane but I don't know how else to keep the Bond series fresh.
I think they need to do something that they have not done before.
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elements. ;) Both have great stories, which I'm sure could be modernised just
enough to make them contemporary for a modern audience
Just technically the series was rebooted with Craig. New stories and plot lines. So I don't think it would be wrong to take the stories and re-use them..
THEREFORE: the next film, Bond 25, simply MUST be a remake of "On His Majesty's Secret Service."
(Yes, "HIS" Majesty. Elizabeth--God save her--cannot realistically live forever, and her successors for three generations are all male. Anything referencing HER majesty, for QUEEN and Country, etc, will immediately upon her death become a relic of a bygone age.)
In Bond 26, 007 avenges Tracy and slays "Dr. Shatterhand" in the Garden of Death, possibly perishing himself in the process. (Reboots ensue.)
I would remake YOLT, DAF, and all the Roger Moore films. I know that upsets RM fans, but the light comedy track that the series went down beginning with DAF never worked for me. The PB films I could care less about. They've always felt like Bond: The Next Generation.
Beginning with the CR reboot, what had come before no longer existed. Despite dogged attempts to chart a chronology on this site, there is none. From the outset of the series, other than the occasional reference to an earlier adventure, chronology has never been important to the producers. Seriously, are we to pretend that a whole series of films
fit in between CR and SF? M began as Judi Dench, then became several men, and then Dench again?
CR erased the past and now the opportunity exists to revisit all the SC and RM films.
I daresay the majority of today's audiences haven't seen the classics anyway.
SPECTRE is getting ready to turn everything upside-down and inside-out with its Together again for the First Time Bond-Blofeld reunion. Unless of course this Blofeld is a brother or son of the original.
If we're remaking relationships we've already seen, then remake the films.
But seeing the remakes of Sherlock does nothing to diminish my appreciation of the previous Sherlock Holmes's that I like.
I've seen TB more times than some members here have had hot dinners. And I must say I have no idea what scene you're referring too.
I've never understood the thin veil of continuity that some fans cling to in an attempt to piece the Bond films together as part of an ongoing series. Other than a few brief throw away lines or situations, it doesn't happen often enough to make it work.
The Bond films are not in any order or logical sequence to make it possible that they all follow on from the previous one. The change in actors alone makes this impossible.
I'd rather EON chose not to go down the route of remakes if possible. Although in saying that, many of the films from GF-AVTAK were almost remakes of the previous film.
The so called Bond formula was quite evident in many of the films, and so the cycle continued.
I'd rather that they looked at untapped parts of Fleming and used those first. Several of the novels could be used almost entirely as the EON films of the same name had little if anything to do with them aside from the title. (YOLT being an example)
A remake of a Bond film would seem like a lazy way of continuing the series. Surely someone could write a decent enough story to make this happen.
If you would've asked me this question only a few years ago I would've been dead against it, but, as time passes, and the older film seeming more and more from a different age, I think it could be quite cool so see some of the RM films in particular modernised and brought closer to the Fleming source material.
I'd love to see MR done 'properly' but the one that really jumps out at me is TMWTGG. The original isn't particularly well loved and think the idea of a dangerous 'anti-Bond' hunting down 007 is one worth exploring again.
I would not mind if they left the oldies alone and came up with new stories or use some of the Gardner, Benson of Celebrity trilogy stories to continue.
Back on topic: As mentioned above, I'm all for Bond 25 being an updated remake to OHMSS with Bond 26 as Craig's last, with Bond seeking revenge and killing Blofeld/Shatterhand in the Garden of Death.
I agree that most of the RM series bore very little relation to Fleming's novels, other than title. So technically, none of the films would be remakes. They could even have new titles if necessary. Following up on the latest trend of one word titles beginning with S, a reinterpretation of YOLT could be called SHATTERHAND.
As mentioned previously, using Gardner's and Benson's novels could also be a consideration. Overall, I feel the best films are those based closely on novels.
Ok how about a TMWGG remake? Closer to the novel but no brainwashing ..had Bond missing in SF and DAD. No here just an ambitious but erudite thug that didn't had the privileges of Bond . A grass roots aassassin/terrorist for hire... maybe set in Ghana or someplace other than South America.
No fun house but an extended duel. Cat and mouse movie... scaled back and simple.
Just a mission... no special hook. Maybe Bond just wanting to get his blood flowing again.
Due to the huge success of the previous Bond movies I think I would be very risky to attempt to improve the original and impossible to capture the "magic" of the previous installments. If one would fail at improving it, the remake would be more sacrilege than an attempt to bring a "fresh" and updated version to the table.
It would be great however to work with untapped Fleming material. The opening of TMWTGG novel is on the top of my list, although I'd prefer DC wouldn't do it since he's had too much "personal business" in his movies.
In case of the untapped Fleming material, I'm also looking forward to Anthony Horowitz' "Murder on wheels", which is supposed to feature original work from Fleming himself.
For now the Bond movies are more in need of new, interesting plots. This is the most difficult challenge the producers face IMO. Even Fleming found it increasingly difficult to put Bond in new situations. However, the world is currently in a situation that can provide plenty of inspiration for 007. Espionage is very relevant these days, a new 'Cold War' situation has developed and there's, unfortunately, a lot of conflict going on in the Middle East.
In future so as not to confuse people why not phrase it correctly? "I couldn't care less."
"I could care less" is in the same class as saying "ecksetera" instead of etcetera, or "axe" instead of ask.
A lot of people worked hard on this language so please use it well.
Thank you for the grammar lesson. I will now move forward with this newfound knowledge, unaware as I was that such things mattered here.
To clarify any confusion, I do not care for PB's films. Not to quibble, but my post was written, rather than spoken, so to say my post sounded like I didn't care is a misrepresentation. Seems or appears would have been better word choices, but who would fault you for that? As for your use of like, you suggest a comparison that simply is not there. More appropriately, as would have been the better choice.
Thus your revised sentence: "It appears as if you don't care for PB's film...."
To be clear, I have the highest respect for our language. From time to time I make mistakes, as do we all. I say this in the most respectful way possible, please do not lecture me.
Regards, Crabkey.
I could, however, handle a soft remake, in the vein of GF=AVTAK, YOLT=TSWLM=TND etc., as they only use loose plot elements and stick to original character names. In this way, I'd like to see how EON would tackle one of the Cold War films i.e. FRWL/TSWLM/FYEO/OP/TLD. Or perhaps work one of the stand-alone PTSs into a film. I would not be opposed to the novels being faithfully adapted to TV- I believe there is a discussion about it here somewhere.
Also Doctor No which fleming's novel is much more gritter and violent.
For instants, the baracuda and the octopus, something that didn't showed up in the movies.
OP.............rewrite the Tiger hunt scene, to remove the childish humour, and replace it with a more intence scene.
OOS..........rewrite most of the film, as it was a true abonimation!
OOS = Out Of Softshells, a thrilling edge-of-your-seat James Bond entry that sees Bond driving at lightning fast speeds to his local market to pick up more softshelled tacos before it's too late to eat dinner.
Oh yeah.....very funny Creasy47!.............QOS :)