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Things you never want to see in a Bond film again

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @zerozero, that list seems to be comprised of nothing more than Roger Moore era complaints.

    Right off the top of my head for the day: no more CG animals of any kind, please.
  • Scaramanga12Scaramanga12
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Like others before me:

    No more delving into Bond's past.
    No more having M's, MI6's or Bond's previous mistakes or issues come back top haunt them.
    No more of Moneypenny, Q, M or Tanner in the film (or given much more than framing screen time).
    No more Mendes.
    No more Bond films that reactively explain earlier Bond films.
    No more Bond leaving the service.
    No more screwing with the Gunbarrel.
    No more scenes of mass CGI destruction.
    No more Bond versus and army with automatic weapons that apparently cannot hit a standing open target (ala the first three Brosnan films, CASINO ROYALE and SPECTRE).

    Excellent list
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Mendes.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited November 2015 Posts: 6,390
    Aziz_Fekkesh wrote: »
    Felix

    Underwater action

    Craig on skis (unlikely since SP has snowbound action and Craig only has one or two films left in him. It's unlikely they'll go snowbound again).

    What? I love Felix. But I agree with you about ski scenes; these have been done so superbly by OHMSS, TSWLM, and FYEO that Eon shouldn't even try unless there's a truly compelling story reason. Strangely, SP was crying out for an Oberhauser/Bond ski scene because skiing ties into their shared history.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    echo wrote: »
    Aziz_Fekkesh wrote: »
    Felix

    Underwater action

    Craig on skis (unlikely since SP has snowbound action and Craig only has one or two films left in him. It's unlikely they'll go snowbound again).

    What? I love Felix. But I agree with you about ski scenes--unless there's a really compelling story reason for it, they have been done so well by OHMSS, TSWLM, and FYEO that Eon shouldn't even try. SP was crying out for an Oberhauser/Bond ski scene because skiing ties into their shared history.

    I would have loved seeing Craig on skis because quite frankly, Daniel Craig in that winter suit and those sunglasses would have looked spectacularly cool on skis!

    I WANT, I NEED THAT CLOTHES INCLUDING SHOES AND SUNGLASSES.
    I'll call Tom Ford in person if necessary :))
  • zerozerozerozero The far far east
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @zerozero, that list seems to be comprised of nothing more than Roger Moore era complaints.

    How very astute.

    And how very ungrateful of me to the chap who kept Bond alive in the 70s and 80s. I actually like TSWLM and one or two of his other ones. He just happened to pilot some of the worst films they ever made (with one exception).

    For Connery era stuff, I'd say:

    The "007" theme.
    The star of the show looking bored shitless.
    Connery's wardrobe in DAF.

    For Brosnan, I'd have to say:

    Brosnan.





  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    Brosnan being the most obvious! (Am sure when Craig does leave, some moronic newspaper will mention him as a possible contender!)
    Agree that M, Q and Moneypenny need to stay in London, and only seen in the beginning.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    You Brosnan haters should be thankful he got the role for GE.
    He elevated the franchise to more Box Office than ever.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    Yeh, but he sucked the life out of the roll, til Craig came along.And since when does box office success decree a good movie. he may have put more bums on seats, but his films were rubbish. As I answered you in another thread, I don't hate Brosnan (He was well cast in the Thomas Crown Affair), but I believe he was miscast as Bond!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Agree that M, Q and Moneypenny need to stay in London, and only seen in the beginning.

    Absolutely......and if they demand more airtime sack them and employ someone else. These people are not indispensable. Mendes mucked this up in a big way but we could see it coming even in SF (there was no need for a backstory for MP imho........just make her interesting and employ a decent actress for the part).
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Yeh, but he sucked the life out of the roll, til Craig came along.And since when does box office success decree a good movie. he may have put more bums on seats, but his films were rubbish. As I answered you in another thread, I don't hate Brosnan (He was well cast in the Thomas Crown Affair), but I believe he was miscast as Bond!

    he was well cast as 007 as his job was after quite an absence to reintroduce the franchise, and he did so very well. The Dalton lovers are the only misguided minds that really thought that such a job could have been done by him. Brosnan was always going to be James Bond 007 and did so in a splendid way. You might not like the actor but to call him miscast is like saying Sly Stallone made a poor Rocky.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    I think he was miscast, as I have said before and elsewhere. He was ok, but never really got a handle on the role imho. The expectations were oversize for him and he did not meet them critically for the most part (irrespective of the quality of his films, which declined as well). I was one of his biggest proponents before he got the role (I wanted Dalton out) but by the end of his run I wanted Dalton back.

    Having said that, he did help the franchise re-establish itself economically at a very delicate time, and he should be commended for that. Those thinking people will look back on his run with more critical appreciation with time are deluding themselves imho.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    @bondjames

    That's your opinion.

    Brosnan (like Moore and Craig) has build up a loyal and not small fan-base with the 90's youth and young adult generation that will last as long as Moore's or Craig's does.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Yes, @BondJasonBond006, it definitely is my opinion. I didn't say otherwise.

    He was a very popular Bond and I don't take that away from him. I just thought he was miscast.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    I don't want to see the couple that set in front of me during SP ever again.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited November 2015 Posts: 6,390
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I don't want to see the couple that set in front of me during SP ever again.

    LOL. I cringe every time I go to see a new Bond film because audiences have gotten so bad. I expect to catch more the second time around because of people incessantly talking the first time.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I don't want to see the couple that set in front of me during SP ever again.

    :))

    Luckily in my 3 viewings people behaved :))

    When I was seeing The Last Witchhunter there were mainly young people probably still teenagers even.
    Sometimes I worry for the future when I see the behaviour of such teenagers. They seem to be symbiotic with their smartphones and/or Facebook/twitter/instagram and that's even the least worrying feature of them...
  • BlandingsCastleBlandingsCastle
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    I get really upset whenever Bond, or anyone, just tosses his gun away when he's out of bullets. Who would do that in real life?
  • mepal1mepal1
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    MGW cameo's in Bond films! :))
  • augie7107augie7107 Boston
    edited November 2015 Posts: 108
    References to homosexuality, like in Skyfall on the island and references that Bond is getting to old for his job, again in Skyfall. Bond, from literary character and movie character portrayals, is decidedly heterosexual and basically indestructible and it should stay that way, in my opinion.
  • Scaramanga12Scaramanga12
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    Strong women.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    An Eric Serra score.
  • cmacy007cmacy007
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    1. Bond racking the slide on a firearm unless he's actually loading it, changing a magazine, or clearing a jam.
    2. M or Moneypenny(especially) in the field ever again.
    3. Any satellites with diamonds.
    4.Q joking about his work (thanks Ben)
    5. Computer viruses/hacking/any bullshit related to this.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    A dead girl covered in paint, oil, milk, honey, etc...
  • Monsieur_AubergineMonsieur_Aubergine Top of the Eiffel Tower with a fly in my soup!
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    A 'gone rogue' reason for his mission...Bond should quite simply now be faced with a national/international threat that galvanises an audience to root for him based on a palpable danger to all and not simply to him.
    "james I need you"... "So does England"/the world :-)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    Urine colour filters for entire sections of a Bond film.
  • SpectreNumberTwoSpectreNumberTwo
    edited November 2015 Posts: 389
    No more arty farty type lovey movie making.

    Lets get back to basics, Bond is a formula but it's a classic that has lasted a long time, Why?, because it works.

    No more back story or ensemble cast involvement For F**Ks Sake it's not the Avengers or MI (which I actually think is better written at the moment), just a mission.

    Should be PTS, Titles, MP customary by play followed by M briefing, bit more by play, Q issues new gadgets, then meet the bad guys, sleep with girl, girl gets killed, action, action, action, meets main girl, defeats bad guy, rescues girl, kisses girl, end credits.

    Please can EON stop feeling so Bl**dy insecure about their product, stop copying others & start innovating again, Bond works & has for over 50 years. I loved CR, liked QoS, SF was OK & I liked SP but part of me really yerns for a modern FRWL or GF, just classic Bond. [-O<
  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
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    LOL. I cringe every time I go to see a new Bond film because audiences have gotten so bad. I expect to catch more the second time around because of people incessantly talking the first time.

    At the showing in Hong Kong someone behind answered their phone saying "喂你好。你去哪里？“ like they were walking on the street. During the climatic scene in MI5 a woman did something similar. So many women could have used a finishing school.

    :-@
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    SpectreNumberTwo wrote: »
    No more arty farty type lovey movie making.

    Lets get back to basics, Bond is a formula but it's a classic that has lasted a long time, Why?, because it works.

    No more back story or ensemble cast involvement For F**Ks Sake it's not the Avengers or MI (which I actually think is better written at the moment), just a mission.

    Should be PTS, Titles, MP customary by play followed by M briefing, bit more by play, Q issues new gadgets, then meet the bad guys, sleep with girl, girl gets killed, action, action, action, meets main girl, defeats bad guy, rescues girl, kisses girl, end credits.

    Please can EON stop feeling so Bl**dy insecure about their product, stop copying others & start innovating again, Bond works & has for over 50 years. I loved CR, liked QoS, SF was OK & I liked SP but part of me really yerns for a modern FRWL or GF, just classic Bond. [-O<

    I agree. I don't mind if they shake up a few elements of the formula (Vesper dies, Bond doesn't sleep with Camille, etc.) but I don't like when they go too far afield in any one film.

    I do think QoS is crying out for a critical reappraisal decades from now, much like OHMSS. Crazy editing aside, it is much more restrained than SF and SP, and there are individual scenes better than anything in SF and SP.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I liked Severine, but most of the recent Bond Girls rub me the wrong way. I'd like to go back to the earlier traditions. In my mind the perfect chemistry between Bond and Bond Girl is featured in GOLDFINGER between Connery Bond and Dink.

    She surely rubbed him the right way......and vice versa possibly....

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