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  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Yes it went into a vent. Definitely.

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,801
    Thank you!
    I remember a hush during his pause, the a ha-HA! kind of laugh all around when the motor flared up. Nicely filmed.
  • Brilliant I know. Conceiving a Blofeld finale less satisfying than YOLT and DAF is quite some feat.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    @boldfinger, Finish what they started with SP. CR - SF is done but they've started a new chapter with SP. If they can tie it all up as a stand alone film with a closed off ending, bookending Craig's tenure I'll be happy and they can move on to Bond 7 or whatever. I just hate when a story doesn't get to have a proper ending. Like OHMSS never got to really have a proper followup with Bond getting revenge on Blofeld and finishing him once and for all. The PTS of FYEO is the closest we'll get but I don't want them to just ignore Spectre's ending because some fans didn't like it or it wasn't well received. For example, Many of us wanted closure on Mr. White and Quantum while other's just said Ignore them and forget they existed. Luckily I got my wish in SP

    Sure the ending can cap off Craig's run, but there is just so much more to be desired for a good continuation and a last Hurrah for Craig. I'd love to see Craig, Waltz, Sydoux and Bautista back for the conclusion of SP's story.
  • Posts: 187
    Don't know if it's been mentioned but the fellas at Now Playing Podcast put up their review for Spectre last night and I listened to it this morning. If you don't know them, they did an entire retrospective series in 2012 reviewing all 25 films at the time (including 60's CR and NSNA). Well worth a listen as they have a fan, a casual and a newbie review all the films. It's interesting to hear all 3 opinions.

    nowplayingpodcast.com/
  • boldfinger wrote: »
    It has this joyous Remy Julienne-esque fun! And Bond's gestures...the way he responds to all these not-working gadgets is simply priceless. Not to mention 009's music choice =)). Oooowh, and WHY are people so serious when watching this sweet granddaddy in his Fiat 'Topolino' :-P?? It's so well executed.

    Other criticism I don't understand: "Those damned empty streets in Rome. It's unrealistic". Man, ENJOY this stuff. Put a smile on your face.
    I will put a smile on my face as soon as I enjoy a film scene. And I did enjoy Bond´s reactions. I was not annoyed that Bond talks to MP on the phone while being chased by Hinx. But I was annoyed that the car chase wasn´t exciting at all. I mean, it´s obvious that they put a lot of effort into it. But, come on, there are too many exciting car chases on film to be impressed by this, and I´m not talking about the bloody Fiat, I mean the whole thing. Off the top of my head I can think of TMWTGG, OP, Ronin, Miami Vice, who all had so much more excitement in car chases than this piece. I can do with serious, I can do with funny, I´m not afraid of the different (I love QoS), and I certainly wanted to enjoy this Rome chase. But as sorry as I am, it just doesn´t work the way it is done.

    You know, I shall be honest...I did expect a more "Ronin"-esque, "Bullitt"-esque car chase. A car chase that seriously gives you thrills. But obviously the producers chose to make it more tongue-in-cheek. And I think that cheesiness, although entirely different from what I expected, paid of as well for me. It simply appealed to different kind of emotions; not so much thrills, but more happiness and laughter.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Brilliant I know. Conceiving a Blofeld finale less satisfying than YOLT and DAF is quite some feat.

    Almost as unsatisfying, of should that be unsavoury, as someone signing up to a fan forum just to moan. Not quite, though.
  • Mi6LisbonBranchMi6LisbonBranch Lisbon, Portugal
    Posts: 243
    Saw it again today for the second time, and basicly it confirmed my initial feelings (all the good ones and also the bad - just a few).
    All in all, i loved it and for me (a fan who grew with the Roger Moore movies) it will become a classic and will rank on my top 5.
    OHMSS stil keeps the leadership and Casino Royale still is, for me, my favourite DC JB movie.
    Absolutley loved:
    - the PTS is absolutley superb;
    - all the Rome scenes (except the "Topolino" cue and the Fiat500 part of the car chase);
    - the Austria scenes also are very satisfying although parts of the airplane chase seem a bit to over the top and unrealistic;
    - Daniel Craig is superb as JB here. Totally at ease and confortable in the role;
    - the score, which i criticized in the beguinning, works very well in keeping pace and momentum;
    - Mr Hink: badass! and really menacing. The train fight is also a higlight of the film;
    - all 3 Bond Girls were perfectly cast for me (being Monica Beluci the "sherry on top of the cream")
    etc
    What i didnt like so much:
    - The film does fall after Bond and Madeleine leave the train in Morocco and loses the edge, the suspense and the thrill that managed to keep till then;
    - the "foster brother" plot is totally unecessary. Blofeld is Blofeld, period. No need to "mess" up with Bond's (Ian Fleming's) background;
    - Christoph Waltz just didnt feel menacing for me (maybe its because i associate him so clearly to other cinema characters).
    In short, i thought it was a true JB movie, entertaining, funny, suspensfull, with nice pacing .. looking forward for a 3rd viewing!
    8 out of 10
    cheers
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    boldfinger wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Final impression:
    It's a great 'by the numbers' 'run of the mill' Bond film. It checks all the boxes, and gives the 'hardcore' fans what they want. I certainly enjoyed it more this time. However, it doesn't do anything more than that......at all. So it ends up feeling mediocre. Like an episode of a serial. There's a deja vu element.......nice but not necessary (after all we have a massive back catalogue to view if we want to reminisce)


    So basically what we're left with is a a series of (dull) action sequences with some nice throw back fan favourite moments for Bond aficionados. Ultimately, it is, as has been said, a film for us Bond nutters.

    As I said in my original review, it's fun, but it could have been so, so much more. I enjoyed it, but then it was made for me and me only.....since it's ultimately a 'love letter' to us fans.
    A love letter IMO shows that love is here and now, which means SP would be more of a nostalgic letter to some long gone love.
    I consider myself a hardcore fan, all the more so I feel hurt by things such as Bond visiting Dr. Swann in a clinic on top of alpine mountains, and then drowning that potentially breathtaking backdrop in fog. Or by showing some kind of Orient Express luxury train and making it look like the local tram. Or by showing exotic and potentially stunning locations and drowning all that beauty underneath cloudy skies and colour filters. All those things are certainly not things I as hardcore fan want.

    Well ok then, let's say it's a poorly written 'love letter' to fans. It's the thought that counts surely?.... ;)

    In all seriousness, I agree with you. I couldn't believe that they weren't able to add suitable glamour to that clinic. It seemed so cold and grey, but perhaps that was what they were going for.......I just don't agree with their choice. I much preferred the glints of sun reflecting off the snow peaks at Piz Gloria in OHMSS. That's how they should have done it imho, given they had such a beautiful natural location to work with.

    The rest of it was just a jaundiced yellow everywhere......annoying after a while. Again, it was a conscious creative decision which I just happen to not agree with.

    It was almost as if this was being done to more easily cover up CGI insertions (which would have otherwise been obvious perhaps?) in a cost effective way. I don't buy the argument that this was 'mood setting'.
  • Posts: 1,314
    It's a serviceable car chase but would have been miles better with a little more danger. Where's the threat? A near miss with a lorry 5 minutes in?

    Otherwise it's a series of beatifully executed
    Handbrake turns and little else.

    Tell me at what point you think Bonds life is in danger here?
  • Matt007 wrote: »
    It's a serviceable car chase but would have been miles better with a little more danger. Where's the threat? A near miss with a lorry 5 minutes in?

    Otherwise it's a series of beatifully executed
    Handbrake turns and little else.

    Tell me at what point you think Bonds life is in danger here?

    As dangerous as perhaps this chase?


    I'm sorry to say this, but if there's one aspect "SPECTRE" succeeds in all its glory, then it definately the "Humour Department". I mean, come on guys...it wasn't that 'dangerous' (think "QOS"), but it surely was funny. And especially the cinematography here worked.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 154


    Guys? Above 6 mins of the 7,5 min car chase. I am sorry, but...I love it :)) =))! It's so funny, and it indeed reminds me a lot of the "FYEO"-car chase and the "UNCLE"-car chase. It has this joyous Remy Julienne-esque fun! And Bond's gestures...the way he responds to all these not-working gadgets is simply priceless. Not to mention 009's music choice =)). Oooowh, and WHY are people so serious when watching this sweet granddaddy in his Fiat 'Topolino' :-P?? It's so well executed.

    Other criticism I don't understand: "Those damned empty streets in Rome. It's unrealistic". Man, ENJOY this stuff. Put a smile on your face. And if you watch closely you see that Bond encounters this Fiat 'Topolino' 500 (also a reference to the light blue Fiat 500 from "GoldenEye"?), but is almost hit by two other vehicles (An Iveco truck, another SUV) and charmingly greets a beggar on the streets of Rome when Bond safely lands with his parachute. Priceless.

    One thing about the criticism regarding Hinx and that he is everywhere without a clear good reason: Rewatch Jaws in "TSWLM" and Grant in "FRWL". And then ask yourself what the HELL you expect from a henchman X( !

    I had sworn off Bond movies after my huge disappointment with Skyfall. So far, I've stuck w/that. I've still not seen Spectre. Hearing it was a more traditional Bond made me think I'd give it a chance. Also, hearing of the many negative reviews, that too made me want to see it (as I usually disagree w/most critics so suspected I'd actually like it.) Then I heard that the action scenes, which are very important for me, were all very weak. I also read that, while all the Bond boxes were checked (something I appreciate), it was done in a very non-inventive and unimaginative way (something I don't appreciate). This caused me to lose interest again.

    Well, this clip you posted is the first I've seen of the movie beyond the trailer clips. I have to say, while it isn't the most exciting car chase I've ever seen (and could indeed have used more danger & stunts), it's not that bad in the excitement department. While only slightly weak as action, it makes up for the lack excitement in spades by the way Mendez expertly blends humor into the chase w/out ever reducing it to silliness or comedy -- and I did indeed find it original and in high Bond style. (I loved Bond's jealousy over Moneypenny's guest!)

    And, for the first time, I truly LOVED Craig's portrayal of Bond (as witnessed in your clip) -- the casual confidence under pressure that has always been what Bond used to be about! This is BOND done right.

    For the first time, this old Bond fan is truly excited about seeing Spectre! This indeed appears to be the Craig Bond for which I've been waiting!
  • Ia gree about your comments about Bond in this particular film. After 3/4 films we now have the more suave, funny secret agent, who has his emotions better in check, and who makes you laugh! It was about time no? I mentioned it in my review on page 77. I think over the course of 4 films we have seen perhaps the best character study of Her Majesty's Secret Agent: From a tormented blunt instrument into a much more self-assured, still slightly blunt, and funny secret agent. A true quadrilogy for Daniel Craig.

    I can't wait for the BluRay-steelbook release........watching these four films in a marathon will be such a wonderful event.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    I could not be happier. Spectre has made my dreams come true, not only did it the impossible and dethroned GoldenEye after 20 years, but now Craig joins the other actors in this regard:

    I have two movies each in my Top 10 of these actors:

    Daniel Craig - Sean Connery - Pierce Brosnan - Timothy Dalton

    Roger Moore missed it by a hair occupying rank 6 and the 11 and 12.

    01 SP
    02 GE
    03 OHMSS
    04 CR
    05 TLD
    06 OP
    07 FRWL
    08 GF
    09 LTK
    10 TND

    11 FYEO
    12 LALD

    Thank you so much BB + MGW, Sam Mendes and Daniel Craig.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 1,314
    Matt007 wrote: »
    It's a serviceable car chase but would have been miles better with a little more danger. Where's the threat? A near miss with a lorry 5 minutes in?

    Otherwise it's a series of beatifully executed
    Handbrake turns and little else.

    Tell me at what point you think Bonds life is in danger here?

    As dangerous as perhaps this chase?


    Not sure how posting FYEOs car chase is relevant to whether SP car chase is dangerous. The 009 jokes fell flat. There's no other traffic. Bonds making a relaxed phone call.

    Like I said. It's adequate.
  • @chrisisall says he prefers SP to SF, you know what friend I totally 100% agree, I yern for a classic Bond movie, my only disappointment is that SP good as it is falls just short, which to me is a missed opportunity, still on the bright side, looks like it'll make it's money back plus some, so they'll get another chance at a great modern Bond (But please use the classic formula as I've alluded to elsewhere on the forum). =D>
  • chipstickschipsticks NOT on TheDanielCraigForum where they think know Daniel Craig personally and Léa and Monica are ugly
    Posts: 560
    nice article with Jany Temime


    Tailored for the high life


    st_20151112_blbondwyf1_1830108.jpg?itok=dSPfgL5o


    It is luxury galore on the James Bond film, Spectre, with its cast dressed in bespoke outfits


    http://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/fashion/tailored-for-the-high-life

  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,585
    OK...off to my second viewing.

    Regarding the helicopter: I wonder if Blofeld's demise is a nod to FYEO.
  • Hello,

    I have not posted on this forum since the design change a few years ago. But I am compelled to now after watching Spectre. Honestly, I have mixed opinions on the film and seeing very positive reviews here makes me question my hesitancy. If I had to break it down I would say I felt the movie was holding back. SP did go back to the tried and true Bond formula so to speak and I can appreciate that. But something is missing. I know (or should realize) that we were not going to get volcano bases or armies of henchman in a Craig film but if you are going to give us a taste of this then why did I sense some uncertainly. The preclimax when Bond blew up the moon crater base perfectly sums up my feelings. We had a grandiose style villain’s lair which we haven’t had in a long time. We had a nice run in with the villain, a bit of grandstanding and even a little torture. We had Blofeld white cat and all. This worked for the most part but then Bond blew up the base so quickly I thought oh that’s it. If you are going to give us all the materials for a great climax then why not go a little further?

    London was also similar. The bombed out MI6 was an interesting set and could have been a neat place for a final showdown. But instead we get Bond escaping and chasing after Blofeld in a helicopter who seemed completely surprised that Bond found the boat he left there and actually shot down the helicopter.

    I was glad we got a traditional Bond henchman. Mr. Hynx was menacing and was played well but again I thought something was missing. The fight scene in that train was wonderful but also a little restrained. It may just be a stylistic product of the Craig films. That may explain this whole ramble. I do plan to see the movie again in theatres this month and perhaps a second viewing can clear this up.

    I should say for the record that many parts of the film are enjoyable including Craig’s performance, the cinematography, the score, the locations, the pre-title sequence and the many references to past Bond films both in the past and in the Craig era through the plot itself.

    But I didn’t leave the film thinking it was amazing. I was left with mixed feelings on many aspects and decisions.

    Anyway that’s my little ramble. Perhaps I will write a proper review later. Since I see such acclaim from the members here both old (who I recognize from years ago) and new I am curious if anyone else feels the same way.
  • The car chase in particular is a sequence that I have really mixed feelings on. If you watch that clip then it works and I like the humor fine (although I wasn't a fan of the 009 music settings bit). However the chase looked absolutely beautiful with 2 supercars on the dark streets of Rome and Bond was just coming off of his first real encounter with Blofeld. That car chase should've absolutely felt a lot more dangerous for where they were in the film. Bond just realizes that one organization is behind every terrorist attack in the last decade, the organization is led by someone from his childhood, you've got these dark/beautiful streets of Rome as a setting, and then the humor in that sequence just seems like an odd choice for the tone of the film at that point.

    The clip from the trailer that was paired with the OHMSS theme was far more exciting and was a lot closer to the type of tone I was expecting.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,585
    So after seeing SP for a second time, I like it more. It's a classic, right up to the point where JB is being tortured, and it's there that the film loses its way. What I didn't notice/consider after the first viewing:

    1. Not sure why Hinx starts the fight on the train if ESB was planning on JB and MS arriving at his lair. Did Hinx go rogue?

    2. MS has an important line in the L'Americain, when she says she sees "two James." It speals to one of the film's themes: of duality. Blofeld isn't just a former foster brother to JB; he's a kindred spirit...a yin to the yang.

    3. When MS asks JB how/why he can live in hiding, always alone...shes actually talking about herself.
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
    Posts: 538
    Just saw the movie a 3rd time. I like it. Going to be a top-10 flick for me. Where it settles, I won't know until I own it and can watch it in sequence with the other films - particularly the Craig films. Just a fun adventure to get through. I'd imagine SP will make a lot of new young fans as well.
  • Posts: 5,767
    boldfinger wrote: »
    It has this joyous Remy Julienne-esque fun! And Bond's gestures...the way he responds to all these not-working gadgets is simply priceless. Not to mention 009's music choice =)). Oooowh, and WHY are people so serious when watching this sweet granddaddy in his Fiat 'Topolino' :-P?? It's so well executed.

    Other criticism I don't understand: "Those damned empty streets in Rome. It's unrealistic". Man, ENJOY this stuff. Put a smile on your face.
    I will put a smile on my face as soon as I enjoy a film scene. And I did enjoy Bond´s reactions. I was not annoyed that Bond talks to MP on the phone while being chased by Hinx. But I was annoyed that the car chase wasn´t exciting at all. I mean, it´s obvious that they put a lot of effort into it. But, come on, there are too many exciting car chases on film to be impressed by this, and I´m not talking about the bloody Fiat, I mean the whole thing. Off the top of my head I can think of TMWTGG, OP, Ronin, Miami Vice, who all had so much more excitement in car chases than this piece. I can do with serious, I can do with funny, I´m not afraid of the different (I love QoS), and I certainly wanted to enjoy this Rome chase. But as sorry as I am, it just doesn´t work the way it is done.

    You know, I shall be honest...I did expect a more "Ronin"-esque, "Bullitt"-esque car chase. A car chase that seriously gives you thrills. But obviously the producers chose to make it more tongue-in-cheek. And I think that cheesiness, although entirely different from what I expected, paid of as well for me. It simply appealed to different kind of emotions; not so much thrills, but more happiness and laughter.
    You brought up the name of Remy Julienne, @Gustav. So we all know that it is not too much to ask for happiness and laughter together with an exciting chase. I mean the term chase per definitionem implies some kind of excitement, which makes the Rome chase some kind of paradox.
    And yes, I find the car chase from FYEO a lot more exciting than the Rome chase. Has to do with filming and editing, not with being serious or funny.
    bondjames wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Final impression:
    It's a great 'by the numbers' 'run of the mill' Bond film. It checks all the boxes, and gives the 'hardcore' fans what they want. I certainly enjoyed it more this time. However, it doesn't do anything more than that......at all. So it ends up feeling mediocre. Like an episode of a serial. There's a deja vu element.......nice but not necessary (after all we have a massive back catalogue to view if we want to reminisce)


    So basically what we're left with is a a series of (dull) action sequences with some nice throw back fan favourite moments for Bond aficionados. Ultimately, it is, as has been said, a film for us Bond nutters.

    As I said in my original review, it's fun, but it could have been so, so much more. I enjoyed it, but then it was made for me and me only.....since it's ultimately a 'love letter' to us fans.
    A love letter IMO shows that love is here and now, which means SP would be more of a nostalgic letter to some long gone love.
    I consider myself a hardcore fan, all the more so I feel hurt by things such as Bond visiting Dr. Swann in a clinic on top of alpine mountains, and then drowning that potentially breathtaking backdrop in fog. Or by showing some kind of Orient Express luxury train and making it look like the local tram. Or by showing exotic and potentially stunning locations and drowning all that beauty underneath cloudy skies and colour filters. All those things are certainly not things I as hardcore fan want.

    Well ok then, let's say it's a poorly written 'love letter' to fans. It's the thought that counts surely?.... ;)
    Oh is it? Well it seems I´m greedy, because I would want to feel the love. Just read about it and then not experience it is a lie to me.
    bondjames wrote: »
    In all seriousness, I agree with you. I couldn't believe that they weren't able to add suitable glamour to that clinic. It seemed so cold and grey, but perhaps that was what they were going for.......I just don't agree with their choice. I much preferred the glints of sun reflecting off the snow peaks at Piz Gloria in OHMSS. That's how they should have done it imho, given they had such a beautiful natural location to work with.

    The rest of it was just a jaundiced yellow everywhere......annoying after a while. Again, it was a conscious creative decision which I just happen to not agree with.

    It was almost as if this was being done to more easily cover up CGI insertions (which would have otherwise been obvious perhaps?) in a cost effective way. I don't buy the argument that this was 'mood setting'.
    It seems there was a purpose behind it, but I have never been further away in any film I can think of from understanding their intention. And moreover, I find it visually appalling.
    As for the idea of hiding CGI, that can´t be true, because the CGI and green screen were more than obvious.

  • edited November 2015 Posts: 24
    I've finally remembered what the car chase gag reminded me of...

    It's this following sequence in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

    Apologies for the quality of the video, with the sequence starting at 44 seconds in, but it was the best I could find online...



    Desk
  • Posts: 582
    AceHole wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    I thought the sofa in the PTS was quite funny, because I thought 'why not?', it had to be somewhere. But it was a jolt because this was the first joke of it's kind in Craig's era, and yes it came from a past era.

    You took the words right out of my mouth!

    It was a real WTF moment for me, whereas my wife, who's not such a Bond aficionado, just chuckled and muttered "ha, typical!"

    Except that it isn't typical, far from it. This was as if being hit with the proverbial nostalgic sledge-hammer. "AM I IN THE RIGHT MOVIE..??"

    Dumbstruck is exactly how I felt when seeing DC land on that sofa after the building collapsed. The new era of 'Bond conditioning' that we, the audience, have been put through ever since CR means that we were basically pre-programmed to expect Dan to meet a gritty, bone-crunching landing - replete with torn trousers and facial cuts à la QoS.

    I don't have a problem with DC films going this way as long as they don't go overboard. For me this type of humour started in Skyfall when Bond jumps on the train - 'He must be in a hurry' - which felt like it could have been in an earlier Bond film - but I felt that he pulled off the health and safety part of the gag well.
  • Posts: 582
    boldfinger wrote: »
    It has this joyous Remy Julienne-esque fun! And Bond's gestures...the way he responds to all these not-working gadgets is simply priceless. Not to mention 009's music choice =)). Oooowh, and WHY are people so serious when watching this sweet granddaddy in his Fiat 'Topolino' :-P?? It's so well executed.

    Other criticism I don't understand: "Those damned empty streets in Rome. It's unrealistic". Man, ENJOY this stuff. Put a smile on your face.
    I will put a smile on my face as soon as I enjoy a film scene. And I did enjoy Bond´s reactions. I was not annoyed that Bond talks to MP on the phone while being chased by Hinx. But I was annoyed that the car chase wasn´t exciting at all. I mean, it´s obvious that they put a lot of effort into it. But, come on, there are too many exciting car chases on film to be impressed by this, and I´m not talking about the bloody Fiat, I mean the whole thing. Off the top of my head I can think of TMWTGG, OP, Ronin, Miami Vice, who all had so much more excitement in car chases than this piece. I can do with serious, I can do with funny, I´m not afraid of the different (I love QoS), and I certainly wanted to enjoy this Rome chase. But as sorry as I am, it just doesn´t work the way it is done.

    Yeah I loved the car chase too.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    The non-working gadget gags were pretty funny, but it would have been better if the chase was more engaging. However they didn't have unlimited cars to work with here so that's perhaps why the chase was more restrained.
  • tigers99 wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    I thought the sofa in the PTS was quite funny, because I thought 'why not?', it had to be somewhere. But it was a jolt because this was the first joke of it's kind in Craig's era, and yes it came from a past era.

    You took the words right out of my mouth!

    It was a real WTF moment for me, whereas my wife, who's not such a Bond aficionado, just chuckled and muttered "ha, typical!"

    Except that it isn't typical, far from it. This was as if being hit with the proverbial nostalgic sledge-hammer. "AM I IN THE RIGHT MOVIE..??"

    Dumbstruck is exactly how I felt when seeing DC land on that sofa after the building collapsed. The new era of 'Bond conditioning' that we, the audience, have been put through ever since CR means that we were basically pre-programmed to expect Dan to meet a gritty, bone-crunching landing - replete with torn trousers and facial cuts à la QoS.

    I don't have a problem with DC films going this way as long as they don't go overboard. For me this type of humour started in Skyfall when Bond jumps on the train - 'He must be in a hurry' - which felt like it could have been in an earlier Bond film - but I felt that he pulled off the health and safety part of the gag well.

    So, big question for you. How would you add humour in the film then? As I see it, certain elements may remind you of the cheeky Roger Moore era. But I didn't see Daniel Craig jumping on the back of a train. And I didn't hear 007 whining about 009's music when he was played by Roger Moore?

    You know, we COULD go the "Casino Royale"-way and "Licence To Kill"-way...by not having humour.....but really? I think after 3 'emotionally deep' Bond films, the time was there to add a bit more humour. And again, for me the humour worked. It's the highlight of the entire film.
  • Posts: 1,098
    umm................there was some silly humour in CR.........i remember Bond running through a wall in the Parkour chase.........who would do that?........coz u dont know what the wall would of been made of, would you?.........good scene though, i liked it!
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    mepal1 wrote: »
    umm................there was some silly humour in CR.........i remember Bond running through a wall in the Parkour chase.........who would do that?........coz u dont know what the wall would of been made of, would you?.........good scene though, i liked it!

    To show Bond is a wrecking ball, a blunt instrument at that point in his evolution.
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