Bond movie ranking (Simple list, no details)

jake24 · November 2015

Murdock wrote: »

1.GoldenEye.
2.SPECTRE.
3.For Your Eyes Only.
4.The Spy Who Loved Me.
5.On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
6.Casino Royale.
7.The World is Not Enough.
8.Thunderball.
9.Dr. No.
10.Skyfall.
11.Live and Let Die.
12.From Russia With Love.
13.Quantum of Solace.
14.Tomorrow Never Dies.
15.Licence To Kill.
16.Moonraker.
17.Octopussy.
18.Goldfinger.
19.Diamonds Are Forever.
20.Die Another Day.
21.The Living Daylights.
22.A View To A Kill.
23.The Man With The Golden Gun.
24.You Only Live Twice.

I like it.

Aziz_Fekkesh · November 2015

ForYourEyesOnly wrote: »

Interesting @Aziz_Fekkesh. I was basing mine off (what is hopefully) objective quality, since my list for subjective likes/dislikes would mostly be based on entertainment and we'd have a much more different list.

My list is pretty much calibrated by how much I enjoy the movies and subjectively how good I think they are. Again, I need to watch them all again. Last time was 2012. I didn't have time running up to SP. Objective quality in art is impossible.

jackdagger · November 2015

May as well give this a go.

1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. Live and Let Die
3. License to Kill
4. Skyfall
5. Thunderball
6. Octopussy
7. Dr. No
8. The Living Daylights
9. Casino Royale
10. From Russia with Love
11. Quantum of Solace
12. The Spy who Loved Me
13. For Your Eyes Only
14. Goldfinger
15. Spectre
16. Goldeneye
17. The World is Not Enough
18. Diamonds are Forever
19. The Man with the Golden Gun
20. A View to a Kill
21. Tomorrow Never Dies
22. Moonraker
23. You Only Live Twice
24. Die Another Day

*Disclaimer: My list is what I find most enjoyable to least enjoyable, not by actual quality of the movie.
CR, GE, and TWINE would be way higher if I didn't hate the main Bond girl.

bondjames · November 2015

jackdagger wrote: »

CR, GE, and TWINE would be way higher if I didn't hate the main Bond girl.

It can have a subjective effect no doubt. As an example, CR & GE are two of my personal favourites, and I can't get enough of the Bond babe in both cases (unlike you). Conversely, TND could probably rank higher for me if I liked the Bond girls more. Same with TLD.

Interestingly, it wouldn't make a difference to me with LTK or QoS, which probably means I must really think highly of those two.........never thought about that before now.

w2bond · November 2015

Here's my recent Bondathon ranking with Spectre included...still not totally decided on its place but it won't be higher than LTK which I've decided is the "hard to crack" mark (1-13 + AVTAK I really enjoy). The top 5 are almost impenetrable.

1. The Living Daylights
2. Octopussy
3. Casino Royale
4. From Russia with Love
5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
6. Goldeneye

7. For Your Eyes Only
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
9. Tomorrow Never Dies
10. Dr No
11. Moonraker
12. Diamonds Are Forever
13. Licence to Kill

14. You Only Live Twice
15. A View To A Kill
16. Goldfinger
17. Spectre

18. The Man with the Golden Gun
19. Die Another Day
20. Thunderball
21. Skyfall

22. Live and Let Die
23. The World is Not Enough
24. Quantum of Solace

After watching Spectre, my opnion on QOS has improved but not enough to keep it from the bottom...yet

jamesbond_downunder · November 2015

1) Goldfinger
2) From Russia with Love
3) GoldenEye
4) ***SPECTRE***
5) Casino Royale
6) Thunderball
7) You Only live Twice
8) Skyfall
9) Living Daylights
10) Dr No
11) Live and let die
12) Licence to Kill
13) Tomorrow Never Dies
14) Man with the Golden Gun
15) OHMSS
16) Spy who Loved Me
17) Diamonds are Forever
18) For your eyes only
19) TWINE
20) Octopussy
21) Moonraker
22) QOS
23) DAD
24) AVTAK

w2bond · November 2015

Wow a whooping 48 rankings have been posted in the mere 3 weeks after Spectre's release. To put in perspective just over 180 ranks where posted between SF and SP's releases.

1. CR 986
2. FRWL 978
3. OHMSS 892
4. GF 869
5. SF 776
6. SP 772
7. TLD 760
8. TB 740
9. GE 736
10. TSWLM 728
11. DN 724
12. FYEO 619
13. LTK 613
14. LALD 557
15. OP 540
16. QOS 483
17. YOLT 454
18. TND 438
19. DAF 360
20. TMWTGG 345
21. TWINE 324
22. MR 317
23. AVTAK 253
24. DAD 136

We still need more data but the biggest changes are DAF and QOS being higher than pre-Spectre

Including other Bond forums we have 70 ranks, the tiers are exactly the same as pre-Spectre, except DAF is higher

1. CR 1390
2. FRWL 1384
3. GF 1282
4. OHMSS 1266
5. SF 1154

6. SP 1133
7. TLD 1098
8. GE 1084
9. TSWLM 1052
10. DN 1019
11. TB 1011

12. LTK 947
13. FYEO 917

14. LALD 827
15. OP 790
16. YOLT 699

17. QOS 678
18. TND 646
19. TMWTGG 550
20. DAF 506
21. TWINE 488
22. MR 479

23. AVTAK 374
24. DAD 204

HASEROT · November 2015

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w2bond · November 2015

I've done a bit more number crunching and here's a few observations out of 182 MI6 rankings

Connery top 10
96 include DN and FRWL
76 include DN and GF
119 include FRWL and GF

74 include DN, FRWL, GF
54 include DN-TB
20 include DN-GF, YOLT

4 include DN-DAF

Craig top 10
130 include CR, SF
31 include CR-SF

Top 2
24 have FRWL, OHMSS
14 have FRWL, CR

31 have TLD adjacent to LTK

69 have the MI6 overall top 5, in their top 10 (FRWL, GF, OHMSS, CR, SF)

Thunderfinger · November 2015

Excellent work, @w2Bond. Look forward to more number crunching down the line.

JohnBarryFan · November 2015

Here, after 3 viewing of Specter, is my updated list:

1-OHMSS (barely over CR)
2-Casino Royale
3-The Living Daylights
4-Specter (may move over TLD, jury still out)
5-From Russia with Love
6-Skyfall
7-Goldeneye
8-Octopussy
9-License to Kill
10-For your eyes only
11-A View to a Kill (John Barry's fantastic score lift this one)
12-Moonraker
13-Goldfinger
14-Diamonds Are Forever
15-QoS (Marc Foster pulls this one WAY down)
16-Live and Let Die
17-Dr No
18-The Spy who loved me
19-Tomorrow Never Dies
20-Thunderball
21-You Only Live Twice (YOLT didn't aged very well)
22-The world is Not Enough
23-Die Another Day
24-The Man With The Golden Gun

BAIN123 · November 2015

Saw Spectre again on Sunday for the second time. The film can be divided into three sections. First hour: great, next 40 minutes: good, last 20 minutes: more like a playstation game (main objectives: rescue Madeleine and destroy helicopter).

Also, the car chase was better than I remembered but the music gag made me wince.

HASEROT · November 2015

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Gustav_Graves · November 2015

I'm surprised so many fans rate the 3rd half, especially the entire Morocco sequence (l'Américain, train/fight sequence, Blofeld's lair, Blofeld's meteroid, torture sequence, lair destruction), so low. For me it was a highlight. Especially after the Austria sequence.

Here is my updated list once again as of November 16th 2015:

Masterpieces!!!:
01 --> 9.5/10 --> 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'
02 --> 9.3/10 --> 'From Russia With Love'
03 --> 9.0/10 --> 'Skyfall'
04 --> 8.8/10 --> 'Casino Royale'
05 --> 8.3/10 --> 'Thunderball'
06 --> 8.0/10 --> 'Doctor No'

Good films!:
07 --> 7.7/10 --> 'SPECTRE' (NEW !!)
08 --> 7.4/10 --> 'Octopussy'
09 --> 7.4/10 --> 'For Your Eyes Only'
10 --> 7.3/10 --> 'The Living Daylights'
11 --> 7.1/10 --> 'Goldfinger'
12 --> 7.0/10 --> 'Licence To Kill'

Average films:
13 --> 6.7/10 --> 'The World Is Not Enough'
14 --> 6.5/10 --> 'The Man With The Golden Gun'
15 --> 6.3/10 --> 'Quantum Of Solace'
16 --> 6.1/10 --> 'The Spy Who Loved Me'
17 --> 6.0/10 --> 'Diamonds Are Forever'
18 --> 5.8/10 --> 'Moonraker'

Fun stuff for us Bond fans, but as a standalone film bad and sometimes even stomach-turning!:
19 --> 5.6/10 --> 'Live And Let Die'
20 --> 5.5/10 --> 'Never Say Never Again' (non-EON)
21 --> 4.8/10 --> 'Tomorrow Never Dies'
22 --> 4.5/10 --> 'You Only Live Twice'
23 --> 4.2/10 --> 'GoldenEye'
24 --> 3.4/10 --> 'A View To A Kill'
25 --> 2.8/10 --> 'Die Another Day'
26 --> 1.2/10 --> 'Casino Royale' (non-EON)

StirredNotShaken · November 2015

1: Die Another Day

Goddammit! I caused another f#$*in' apocalypse!

24: Diamonds Are Forever
23: Die Another Day
22: The Man with the Golden Gun
21: Moonraker
20: Tomorrow Never Dies
19: A View to a Kill
18: Goldfinger (I keep trying, guys... honest!)
17: Live and Let Die
16: Quantum of Solace
15: You Only Live Twice
14: Thunderball
13: Dr. No
12: For Your Eyes Only
11: The World is Not Enough
10: Octopussy
9: GoldenEye
8: From Russia With Love
7: Skyfall
6: Licence to Kill
5: SPECTRE
4: The Spy Who Loved Me
3: On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2: The Living Daylights
1: Casino Royale

HASEROT · November 2015

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Gustav_Graves · November 2015

HASEROT wrote: »

Gustav_Graves wrote: »

I'm surprised so many fans rate the 3rd half, especially the entire Morocco sequence (l'Américain, train/fight sequence, Blofeld's lair, Blofeld's meteroid, torture sequence, lair destruction), so low. For me it was a highlight. Especially after the Austria sequence.

everything from the beginning of the film through Bond's escape of Blofeld's lair was perfectly fine for me - it's the last part in London that felt - tacked on - unnecessary - poorly written - not fully developed..

But you do know that....from the gunbarrel sequence until the blow-up of Blofeld's lair...the film is 132 mins no?

Also, though not the best sequence, I did like the way Blofeld turned the old MI6-building into a version of Scaramanga's Fun House. It is very Bond-esque to me....

HASEROT · November 2015

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Gustav_Graves · November 2015

HASEROT wrote: »

Gustav_Graves wrote: »

HASEROT wrote: »

Gustav_Graves wrote: »

I'm surprised so many fans rate the 3rd half, especially the entire Morocco sequence (l'Américain, train/fight sequence, Blofeld's lair, Blofeld's meteroid, torture sequence, lair destruction), so low. For me it was a highlight. Especially after the Austria sequence.

everything from the beginning of the film through Bond's escape of Blofeld's lair was perfectly fine for me - it's the last part in London that felt - tacked on - unnecessary - poorly written - not fully developed..

But you do know that....from the gunbarrel sequence until the blow-up of Blofeld's lair...the film is 132 mins no?

Also, though not the best sequence, I did like the way Blofeld turned the old MI6-building into a version of Scaramanga's Fun House. It is very Bond-esque to me....

but there is an old saying in film - that it's not how you start, but how you finish.. and 99% of the time, an audience can forgive a terrible or slow start to a film if it finishes really strong - because that's their last impression of the film as they leave the theater...... i still really liked the movie - don't get me wrong on that.... but i would be lying if i said that the London bits at the end underwhelmed me - it felt halfcocked and not fully developed... i think the film deserved a stronger ending - but, i can live with what we got.. it's not like it ruined the whole thing for me.. far from it.

I think I agree in parts with you. But for me it were the entire London-based sequences. At times it felt like they tried too hard to incorporate a 2nd storyline, set in London, with a "Mission: Impossible"-esque MI6-team, played by marvellous actors.

I think it does help that next time, for Bond 25, the roles of Moneypenny and 'M' will be much smaller. It would have helped as well if Denbigh wasn't straight away an obvious bureaucratic mole. Instead one could have introduced a real 009 to us, who was secretly working for S.P.E.C.T.R.E.

HASEROT · November 2015

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w2bond · November 2015

HASEROT wrote: »

Denbigh feels so tacked on - because he originally wasn't apart of the story... one of the twists Logan had wrote very early on, was that Mallory was secretly the traitor, and was going to turn out to be a bad guy connected to Spectre in this film - but Fiennes insisted that he was done with villain roles... so they wrote a completely new character - Denbigh..

That must have been very early on...but thank god they got rid of that...I like Fiennes as M.

HASEROT wrote: »

and why not show us more Double-O agents??.. it's been since what, TWINE? - presuming those other agents sitting around Bond when he gets snubbed of an assignment, are in fact Double-O agents.... i would openly welcome the use of more Double-O agents for Bond to team with, or for them to be lambs..

That's a good idea, something they haven't done properly (apart from GE PTS...TLD doesn't really count as it's just a training exercise). I can see the cliches/hurdles here...the ally will have to die (Bond has to save the day), and he/she will have to play a much smaller role otherwise it won't be a 007 movie....maybe that's why they haven't done it.

HASEROT · November 2015

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w2bond · November 2015

HASEROT wrote: »

w2bond wrote: »

HASEROT wrote: »

Denbigh feels so tacked on - because he originally wasn't apart of the story... one of the twists Logan had wrote very early on, was that Mallory was secretly the traitor, and was going to turn out to be a bad guy connected to Spectre in this film - but Fiennes insisted that he was done with villain roles... so they wrote a completely new character - Denbigh..

That must have been very early on...but thank god they got rid of that...I like Fiennes as M.

HASEROT wrote: »

and why not show us more Double-O agents??.. it's been since what, TWINE? - presuming those other agents sitting around Bond when he gets snubbed of an assignment, are in fact Double-O agents.... i would openly welcome the use of more Double-O agents for Bond to team with, or for them to be lambs..

That's a good idea, something they haven't done properly (apart from GE PTS...TLD doesn't really count as it's just a training exercise). I can see the cliches/hurdles here...the ally will have to die (Bond has to save the day), and he/she will have to play a much smaller role otherwise it won't be a 007 movie....maybe that's why they haven't done it.

the closest we got to that recently was Ronson in the PTS of SF... perhaps he could've been one of those ill-fated 00's, just not addressed by his number.

True, but like a lot of minor characters (Hinx included??) their roles and names aren't revealed.

Gustav_Graves · November 2015

HASEROT wrote: »

Gustav_Graves wrote: »

HASEROT wrote: »

Gustav_Graves wrote: »

HASEROT wrote: »

Gustav_Graves wrote: »

I'm surprised so many fans rate the 3rd half, especially the entire Morocco sequence (l'Américain, train/fight sequence, Blofeld's lair, Blofeld's meteroid, torture sequence, lair destruction), so low. For me it was a highlight. Especially after the Austria sequence.

everything from the beginning of the film through Bond's escape of Blofeld's lair was perfectly fine for me - it's the last part in London that felt - tacked on - unnecessary - poorly written - not fully developed..

But you do know that....from the gunbarrel sequence until the blow-up of Blofeld's lair...the film is 132 mins no?

Also, though not the best sequence, I did like the way Blofeld turned the old MI6-building into a version of Scaramanga's Fun House. It is very Bond-esque to me....

but there is an old saying in film - that it's not how you start, but how you finish.. and 99% of the time, an audience can forgive a terrible or slow start to a film if it finishes really strong - because that's their last impression of the film as they leave the theater...... i still really liked the movie - don't get me wrong on that.... but i would be lying if i said that the London bits at the end underwhelmed me - it felt halfcocked and not fully developed... i think the film deserved a stronger ending - but, i can live with what we got.. it's not like it ruined the whole thing for me.. far from it.

I think I agree in parts with you. But for me it were the entire London-based sequences. At times it felt like they tried too hard to incorporate a 2nd storyline, set in London, with a "Mission: Impossible"-esque MI6-team, played by marvellous actors.

I think it does help that next time, for Bond 25, the roles of Moneypenny and 'M' will be much smaller. It would have helped as well if Denbigh wasn't straight away an obvious bureaucratic mole. Instead one could have introduced a real 009 to us, who was secretly working for S.P.E.C.T.R.E.

Plots usually always have a subplot - but i feel in SP like there are two different plot lines jockeying for position, that at times, makes the film feel unbalanced..

Denbigh feels so tacked on - because he originally wasn't apart of the story... one of the twists Logan had wrote very early on, was that Mallory was secretly the traitor, and was going to turn out to be a bad guy connected to Spectre in this film - but Fiennes insisted that he was done with villain roles... so they wrote a completely new character - Denbigh..

right now, EON and the writers have gotten themselves into the habit of "trying to find something for everyone to do.".. it's not enough for M to simply be Bond's boss and give him his mission, or for Moneypenny to be Secretary - they all have to play a role in helping 007 defeat the baddies.. as you put it, they are Team MI6.. and i think part of this problem (not the whole problem, but part of it) is casting prominent names in the roles - it's like they feel they need to get their money's worth out of them, so they extend their roles more in each passing film... i personally don't know if we will ever see a return to where M, Q, and Moneypenny share a combined 10 minutes of screen time.. i personally feel those days are long, and Team MI6 are here to stay...

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Personally, I think I prefer big actor's in such roles. But at the same time I think the producers and screenplaywriters need to make clear from the start that their roles can't be too big.

Let "Mission: Impossible" do this team-approach. But I also think it's about time Moneypenny gets handcuffed behind her desk. The same for 'M'.

I'm fairly convinced Barbara and Michael will start to address this when pre-production of Bond 25 starts. We know London exists now. Time to give it only some small cameo's, like in "Casino Royale".

One thing though, I think "SPECTRE" was the first Bond film with Daniel Craig that was much more about a plain, solid mission for agent 007. It reminded me a lot of the rather rogue mission 007 had in "OHMSS". Also there it turned out that the initial person, Balthazar de Bleuchamp/Franz Oberhauser (via Marc-Ange Draco/Gebrüder Gumbold/Lucia Sciarra/Mr White) in fact was......Blofeld.

Mendes4Lyfe · November 2015

SPECTRE to me feels like a classic Bond film. I've only seen it once so far, but it seems to be going for a very traditional approach, and I welcome that.

Crazysoul95 · November 2015

My first list after SPECTRE, which i have watched twice now

1. CR
2. OHMSS
3. FRWL
4. GF
5. FYEO
6. TSWLM
7. DN
8. GE
9. TB
10. TLD
11. LTK
12. SP
13. SF
14. LALD
15. MR
16. TMWTGG
17. OP
18. TWINE
19. QoS
20. YOLT
21. DAF
22. TND
23. DAD
24. AVTAK

suavejmf · November 2015

Not a bad list. For me you overate GE and underate TB. But all in all this list is more my taste than many others on here.

BondJasonBond006 · November 2015

suavejmf wrote: »

Not a bad list. For me you overate GE and underate TB. But all in all this list is more my taste than many others on here.

The two terms:
Overrated and GE can't co-exist in a logical universe :)) it'll implode

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