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Would have made for an excellent film.
I don't mind Sir Rog in this, though. Actually, it's my favorite Bond flick from the Moore era. I have a problem with Bill Conti's score, however. I can only admit to liking a few tracks from that score.
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It was a fine antidote to MR, and OP was good too. If anything, Dalts should have gotten AVTAK- he would have made it better with his fight to make it more serious like he did on TLD.
I wouldn't have Dalton in View to a Kill. Yes, if he had been involved, it would of looked so much better, but the fact of the matter is, Moore did it, and all I can look to, is, it's a ridiculous release and I wouldn't want Dalton's name really even associated with it. The man was the epitome of serious and straight faced, and I simply couldn't envisage him being in it, looking back right now. He made his debut at the right time, anything else (before) would of been too soon, and I couldn't really picture him in anything before 1987 to be truthful (James Bond I mean)
I was just thinking how it might have been seriously played & re-written if Dalton had been on board...
It's like having a Connery of 1963 involved in Die Another Day or something, for example (if he was able)
I couldn't agree more! Funny that you should mention Flash Gordon because according to IMDB Cubby Broccoli saw Flash Gordon and wanted not only Timothy Dalton but the actress who plays the princess in that movie (Ornella Muti) as well as Topol for FYEO. The part of Melina Havelock was originally written for Ornella Muti in that film. Dalton has said he was offered the role in the early 80s but there was no script and he said the films at the time didn't fit his idea of a Bond movie. Pure speculation, but I think there's a lot to suggest FYEO was originally written for him and the writers made a couple tweaks to the beginning and end when it became clear Roger was in fact returning. I watched the commentary on this movie by Sir Roger Moore and it doesn't sound like he intended to leave yet, but rather that his agent was maybe playing hard to get with the producers. At any rate, the producers seem to have been unsure if he was returning at the time and to have been shopping elsewhere. I think the decision to bring Bond more back to basics was done because they wanted a script to show Dalton to entice him to take the role. I know Cubby had approached him several times over the course of the franchise and really wanted him. I always thought only getting two Bond films from Dalton was a pretty huge missed opportunity. I'd have loved to see him start here and get at least 3 more Bond films from him.
A common case of mistaking popularity with with actual quality.
Moore and Brosnan were far more popular, partly because they were pretty bland (even Rog acknowledges this) - lowest common denominator mass audience pandering does not, however, equal a good product.
Imagine FYEO, OP, AVTAK with a physically strong Bond and without the silliness. Imagine Dalton going up against Walken, Dalton in that Alfa Romeo, Dalton climbing St. Cyril's.
Only he could have pulled off that Tarzan yell and other elements, including the auction scene and backgammon. It required a deft balance of humour, wit and action and fit Rog like a glove. OP was made for Moore, unlike FYEO.
But of course they could always just not have the Tarzan tell if they felt Dalton was out of place doing it (which he absolutely would have been)
I'd even go so far as to say that the opening 15mins after the titles seem perfect for Dalton, reminiscent of TLD's opening tension & mood.
I do recall all the media hoopla back in 1980 about the possibility of Moore quiting Bond, which I suppose is why Cubby asked Terence Young (first) and then Peter Hunt (second) to helm what would have been a new Bond movie with a new 007. It's a shame Young or Hunt didn't return as I'm sure they'd have got rid of the smoke stack, Bibi Dahl and that bloody awful parrot alongside Janet Brown's impersonation of Thatcher.
That's my opinion too. I think FYEO is meant to be a movie for a new Bond actor, it just happened that there was no true successor at the time. But OP without Moore would not have worked.
Also, perhaps it was best Moore was around to go up against Connery when NSNA was made. I don't know if a sophomore Bond actor could have necessarily been able to take on the legend as well.
The Roger Moore years can hardly be called bland and the actor has his qualities as A leading man, which applies to Brosnan as well. As said Dalton is just not the quality material to lead a franchise like EONs 007 with.
The opening weekend of Weekend of Batman took in more cash than Daltons 007 in his whole run in his 007 movie. Keaton & Nichelson are leading men and have charisma.
Dalton is a great supporting actor or a great TV actor but was never meant to be a leading man. And he never had the ability to become any more. With TLD he had a great script and director to make him look good and the next one was a poor Miami Vice copy and his next one would have robot girls in the script. That would have made Look Lazenby like bloody Richard Burton/Laurence Olivier. -)
I think that you mistake quality and popularity when compared to a man that is just not able to be a leading man.
Also, come on, there is no way that the androids what have made it into the finished Bond#17. Does anyone actually believe that was the shooting script?
I don't know. I think the Bond #17 androids are like the elephant stampede in TMWTGG, or Dr No being a monkey. I think it's likely that EON might have been influenced by something in T2 (what, I don't know), but I can't imagine them actually following through with that. Moore's Bond couldn't get away with android fisticuffs, so I see even less chance of that happening in a Dalton film.
With Dalton I think those things would have been left out.