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Bond films that you love, but most others dislike?

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  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    IncompetentHenchman wrote: »
    @ForYourEyesOnly
    I agree with pretty much everything you say, and agree with your conclusion - QOS is not dramatically superior at all to SP, SP is definitely better.

    Although I would say that some of the 'good scenes' in SP are not really good scenes... The Spectre meeting I know is a throwback to TB, but god in this day and age it seems like a kid wrote that scene, it seems so childish... Cliche to say the least. Introducing a villain by having them in the shadows? Really? And I'm not entirely sure how and why people are praising the funeral scene as one of the best scenes of SP, I don't see it at all. Tosca scene really is much better than either.

    The Mr. White scene and the execution of Lucia Sciarra were both very good scenes though. And also people seem to forget that very amusing scene right after Madeleine says "so what do we do now".

    That's Blofeld, though. Blofeld is the lord of cliches, and he's supposed to be a Machiavellian villain. What's the easiest way to show that in a film? By introducing him in a shadowy, hidden manner. Note that I said "easiest", not "best".
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I can just do it based on rankings alone. Well three at least.

    #3 SP- Love it, love it, love it. Even 99% of the London finale is great IMO

    #6 MR- My favourite of the Moore films, the scenes in Rio and leading up to Bond finding Drax's Amazon base is enough for me.

    #7 DAF- I still can never figure out why I have strong feelings towards it. Sean doesn't look bored at all and it looks like he's having a blast. Perhaps I just enjoy it based on the fact that it is so utterly different from the others (well at least his films alone)
  • RC7RC7
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I have to agree with him. Watching them back to back, QOS shines in comparison.

    To call QoS a masterpiece, in any context, is hyperbole.

    That's crap. I hate this obnoxious habit of ragging on others' assessments (by habit, I don't mean @RC7 specifically, but the community as a whole). You don't have to agree with me or others, but my opinions are based on my honest assessment and rarely are reached in a rash and unthought out manner. It would piss me off if someone dismisses them out of hand as "hyperbole". To add, I do like QUANTUM quite a bit (a hell of a lot more than SPECTRE), but I'm not the one who called it a masterpiece. But whoever did should be able to do so under the assumption that they are bring genuine with their words. "Hyperbole" implies the opposite.

    I find words like 'masterpiece' and 'legendary' hyperbolic in their general use. I was joshing with mcdon, though, I don't doubt he has has solid reasons for thinking what he does.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Guilty as charged.

    My top 10 Bond films are amongst my top 50 or so best films of all time (call me shallow, uncultured or a simpleton).

    So you'll frequently see me saying brilliant, awesome, amazing, fantastic, exceptional, incredible, remarkable, phenomenal, marvelous, wonderful etc. etc. when referring to my top 10.

    Conversely, my bottom two Bond films are amongst the biggest disappointments I've encountered in my life. Normally, you will see me referring to them, euphemistically, as a PoS (piece of " ").
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I gather the Pierce Brosnan films are part of the "disappointing experiences"? ;)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I gather the Pierce Brosnan films are part of the "disappointing experiences"? ;)
    Sadly, yes @ClarkDevlin. The bottom one in particular. I'll never forget the day I walked out of the theatre in 1999. What a way to end the resurgence that began so positively in 1995. I remember not mentioning the film to my colleagues and friends because I didn't want them to see it and think I had lost it.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I gather the Pierce Brosnan films are part of the "disappointing experiences"? ;)
    Sadly, yes @ClarkDevlin. The bottom one in particular. I'll never forget the day I walked out of the theatre in 1999. What a way to end the resurgence that began so positively in 1995. I remember not mentioning the film to my colleagues and friends because I didn't want them to see it and think I had lost it.
    That kind of a negative impact, then. It's something to be wowed at, to tell you the truth. :D

    But ah well. I admit liking it very much when I was younger. I was around 5-6 when The World Is Not Enough came out and to the age of 10, it used to be one of my favourite... Back then, for a young lad, theatrics and drama didn't matter much but action heroes and cool things did... That's how I viewed Bond, back then. But, as years have gone in advanced, the film lifted down on my list close to the bottom, as well.
  • AstonLotusAstonLotus
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    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I gather the Pierce Brosnan films are part of the "disappointing experiences"? ;)
    Sadly, yes @ClarkDevlin. The bottom one in particular. I'll never forget the day I walked out of the theatre in 1999. What a way to end the resurgence that began so positively in 1995. I remember not mentioning the film to my colleagues and friends because I didn't want them to see it and think I had lost it.

    Wow.I love TWINE.Its tied with TND as my favourite Brosnan Bond.

  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I have to agree with him. Watching them back to back, QOS shines in comparison.

    To call QoS a masterpiece, in any context, is hyperbole.

    Haha well said.

  • Cuckoo007Cuckoo007
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    Octopussy. Does anyone like this movie? I didn't.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    It's true; I see a lot of people hold it in high regard on this site. The public usually sees it as a weaker one though I think.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
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    Cuckoo007 wrote: »
    Octopussy. Does anyone like this movie? I didn't.

    This guy loves it. You might think I'm *waltz voice* Cuckoooooo
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    RC7 wrote: »
    To call QoS a masterpiece, in any context, is hyperbole.
    Don't make me force you to listen to Tosca!!!!
    :P
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Cuckoo007 wrote: »
    Octopussy. Does anyone like this movie? I didn't.

    It is very much loved overall, at least in these forums. I sure consider one of the best of Moore's entries.
  • Cuckoo007Cuckoo007
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    ThighsOfXenia wrote: »
    Cuckoo007 wrote: »
    Octopussy. Does anyone like this movie? I didn't.

    This guy loves it. You might think I'm *waltz voice* Cuckoooooo
    Are you interested in my username? I actually love birds. I saw Spectre more than once due to the references to bird's nests. I can post some of my bird watching photos if you like.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    It was clear from the start.
  • Scaramanga12Scaramanga12
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    Is this the aspiring reporter we had a while back by any chance.
  • Agent001Agent001
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    TWINE
  • dragonskydragonsky
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    AVTAK is my fave Moore movie.

    TWINE is one of my fave movies depending on the mood even my favorite Bond movie of all time.

    Also I really like DAF. It's positive overall to me and I like the silliness in DAF much much more than in the Moore movies.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Well I guess, the first movie in my ranking that could qualify for this thread is my No 12 Live And Let Die or No 13 Quantum Of Solace and then No 16 Die Another Day

    Actually I LOVE 17 out of 24 Bond movies.
    I like another 7 Bond movies.
    I even like NSNA.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I've always thought I am one of the few who does appreciate the Climax! episode Casino Royale for what it is. It's the closest adaptation in any format on the screen the novel has ever gotten, as of today, with the cane scene being pushed back by Bond being the highlight (although, I imagined it to be more extreme in the novel, I knew that act was going to be performed once I watched the 'episode' after reading the novel).
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    As time goes by, it seems like SP has fallen into this category.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    OP
    NSNA
    TWINE
    DAD
    QOS

    I love all the films above, but they sit near the bottom of the list.

    This year, I realised a new appreciation for AVTAK, and just recently, DAF. After 20 years of watching TMWTGG I'm still warming up to it. Some parts I really enjoy, like the scenes in China, Beirut, the dinner scene. Perhaps it's only a matter of time before I, as Max Denbigh would say, "see the light".
  • GBFGBF
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    AVTAK
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    Moonraker

    It may have had a slight reevaluation over time but when I first got into Bond this was seen as dead last by many and a subject of ridicule. But I gotta tell you - I love chucking this alternately goofy and glorious film on. This may be sacrilege but from the Moore era I'd put this above OP, AVTAK, MWTGG and I watch it more often than TSWLM.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    Moonraker

    It may have had a slight reevaluation over time but when I first got into Bond this was seen as dead last by many and a subject of ridicule. But I gotta tell you - I love chucking this alternately goofy and glorious film on. This may be sacrilege but from the Moore era I'd put this above OP, AVTAK, MWTGG and I watch it more often than TSWLM.

    It's a case of blatant style over substance...but what style!!
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »
    I can just do it based on rankings alone. Well three at least.

    #3 SP- Love it, love it, love it. Even 99% of the London finale is great IMO

    #6 MR- My favourite of the Moore films, the scenes in Rio and leading up to Bond finding Drax's Amazon base is enough for me.

    #7 DAF- I still can never figure out why I have strong feelings towards it. Sean doesn't look bored at all and it looks like he's having a blast. Perhaps I just enjoy it based on the fact that it is so utterly different from the others (well at least his films alone)

    Funny how 20 months can change. SP was rolling high probably because I always feel strongly about a new Bond film. Now, it's probably middle pack, maybe just outside the top 10 now that the novelty has worn off. Moonraker and Diamonds are Forever hasn't changed.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    Moonraker is a fairly misunderstood entry.

    Probably the most spectacular PTS in the series, a very droll villain and a couple of very tense scenes, such as the centrefuge and the doberman attack scene.

    Likewise AVTAK. Probably the best villain in the whole series. Sir Rog seems very serious in this, and genuinely appears to despise Zorin. Mayday is memorable, the Golden Gate fight is fantastic. Patrick Macnee makes a great sidekick, not to mention the best title song and a top 5 Barry soundtrack.
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