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So, not Blofeld.
i for one (don't crucify me) never really liked blofeld. I always felt he was rather cliche. Though i did like him in OHMSS and YOLT.
Haha, he started the cliche that made him cliche.. If you had seen him (I'm assuming you were born post-60's, sorry if I'm wrong) at his debut, and in the earlier films, there was no other film nor villain quite like him. Like I said, he started the cliche.
Bond would be fighting a government, not an organization.
As an alternative, when I was in Belarus earlier this year I founded a small organisation called SMERKOM, short for Smiert Komarom or "Death To Mosquitos". I'd be more than happy for Messrs Broccoli and Wilson to use that if required.
And then there is current Russia. Its pride and glory resembles some stages of the Soviet Union in the 1950's. I very well could see Putin re-iniating SMERSH again. He himself is a former KGB operative. And have we forgotten the polonium attacks in central London?
With all respect....but I saw the Kremlin being blown up in 'Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol' :).
We don't know that it was a 'terrorist' attack. That could mean anything from guy in his basement attack to Muslim radicals. But I doubt it will simply be a form of terrorism for a Bond flick.
But yes there has been an alarming amount of casting for 'MI6 agent' as of late. So hopefully something good comes out of it, and they don't play Bardem down to a simple terrorist.
it means death to spies so perhaps a bunch of Russians with some level of power is sick of the espionage world and decides to kill all of them ...
essentially what Koslov said was happening for it to actually happen in a film would be interesting and it's been over 20 years since The Living daylights.,
SMERSH was anachronistic when Fleming was writing his novels as it didn't exist anymore. So why can't it be plausible? Maffia is an Italian/Sicilian name yet there is now a Russsian maffia, nobody went to Palerma and asked the dons if we had the right to label some non Sicilian organisation with the same name. SMERSH is a name that could be reused by a Russian criminal organisations, for various reasons: symbolical/threatening reasonance, ideological similarities, nostalgia (it exists even among spies). SMERSH could be a sort of Keyser Soze group: the CIA, MI6, and so on are not sure it exists but it is scared of it. Oh and I dream of seeing a character like General Grubozaboyschikov. Again, he can be revamped to the modern time, make him a Russian mobster with a military/spy past. His improbably name does not have to be his real one, merely a "nom de guerre" (again you can make him a Keyser Soze character).
I doubt Russia will ever be the villain it was in the novels. That said Russians can be badguys, as they were in the past (OP, TLD). As long as they are rogue and not official government agents, I think nobody can be accused of demonising a whole people. If they ever use SMERSH again, it can easily be a non-governmental organisation, only created by Russian nationals.
I'm not saying go back it time, but actually have Bond go against another government.. you know.. what most people in his job do in real life. I just want a way to stick to the books, and SMERSH would be perfect. It could be a organization of a smaller soviet country, not necessarily mother Russia.
For this to work, the character of blofeld would have to be re-written as russian, but its a brand new film, and there's been a reboot so anything is possible.
Why can't Bond go against a government. In real life, thats his job! Espionage on other governments!
Many seem convinced it would start WWIII if a Bond film had him go against the Russians. IT WONT.
I'm not really against it, but it doesn't make alot of sense. I think they could do bond vs the russians but they wouldn't be able to call it smersh. And it won't cause world war 3, but it would stir up controversy. The reason the russians worked in octopussy and TLD is because the KGB was still active back then, they really were the bad guys. I've already said my idea about what should happen further above. But I'd rather have smersh than quantum.
And that somehow means that it absolutely CANNOT be reimagined as an organization? And some of us do call groups backed by the government "organizations".
I think in the 1960's Eon thought that Spectre represented a sexier, more entertaining cinematic Bond foil than fighting KGB agents, and they were right. And IMO they still are. I would rather see Bond battle Quantum or a revised Spectre or similar such, global criminal organiztions, rather than real-world threats such as Al Queada or oppressive socialist/communist regimes.
I think the Eon attitude towards the Soviets also reflected the times. In the 1960's people really were terrified of nuclear war with the Soviets, so Eon stayed clear. By the 1970's tensions had relaxed somewhat, and by the 1980's western attitudes towards the Soviets had been emboldened,as the collapse of the Soviet Union lingered on the horizon. As a result we saw Bond directly engage Soviet forces, most notably in OP and TLD, but still the Russian bear was never targeted as the prime portagonist, rather peripheral rogue elements instead. Such an approach I think, makes the whole adventure that much more Bondian in scope, as opposed to having Bond simply engage the West's enemies of the day. If so, he might be busting-up the Occupy movement. Yawn.
Maybe blofelds son as the leader.
What about blofelds father?
It could, but we have Quantum. Why blow off an already established organization? I, personally, think there's alot of potential behind Quantum. They can literally be anything anywhere.
I never said it 'absolutely CANNOT" be re-imagined, I just think'd it'd be weak and silly to do so. That'd be obvious they were trying to play nice with everybody. Thats not what I want, personally.
And they very well could be called 'organizations' but not if they're only objective is seeking the governments needs. SMERSH is more a task force or special forces. Just in espionage.
Very interesting argument. I agree, Eon was aloud to have more fun without directly targeting the Soviets. But is Craig's Bond really all that fun?
In the context of Skyfall (and I know we don't know much) my objective was to present an interesting plot idea. Seeing as Dench's M clearly was heavily involved in the Cold War, it'd be fitting to have her have some Sovi.. -er Russian baddies come back to get her. Many ex-KGB (and I gurantee you many ex-SMERSH) operatives hold positions in the Russian government of today, as well as I'm sure leadership over their special forces groups.
Bond has never gone against a group of trained assassins all out to kill him. That'd be quite something, and I think CraigBond would finally have to get some wit to get past them, because they'd otherwise kick is arse (physically).
Honestly I think that's just silly. What would be the point. It would literally just to be so that we could see Blofeld's pop, something I'm willing to miss. A pointless proposition.
or, what about blofeld himself??? I think having blofeld as the russian leader of SMERSH that has been carrying on in secret for years would be great way to introduce and reimagine the character. My idea is for bond to take out quantum in skyfalls PTS, except in a big explosion, one member survives, ex KGB agent ernst starvo blofeld. After the PTS the film is set two years later, MI6 is attacked, Ms position threatened because she knows blofeld from her past and he has dirt on her, bond must find blofeld and smersh and stop whatever evil plan they have.
Why spectre when we have Quantum?! *sigh