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General election it must be. It's debatable whether people will actually send a more efficient and professional set of politicians to Whitehall this time. But it's absolutely impossible they will elect a worse government. This last week must have opened everybody's eyes what a bunch of defective irresponsible morons governed our fates.
Gove, as assassin responsible for both Cameron & Johnson's demise, may have made too many enemies to progress much.
Maybe one might find suitable subtitels for that fellow. Yes, this video has been done with so many subtitles on YouTube, but he is funny...
http://order-order.com/2016/07/02/read-full-article-pulled-telegraph-pressure-may-campaign/
I agree. A general election at this point would damage no one but the British people & if Labour won would most likely mean a reversal of the referendum - IMO this is why some sections are championing the idea. The Tories are under no obligation to call an election & have already been given a mandate so - again IMO - best that they get on with the job at hand. Getting us out of the EU.
BTW I have being saying he same about all the folks who would rather vote for reality TV than anything else.
Problem is it's likely going to be May and May is already strongly disliked by the Brexiters. No matter what deal she'll bring home, most Brexiters will suspect her of betrayal. Confidence went out of the window that Friday morning anyway when both sides had zero plan to offer to the public. If on that day somebody would have stepped forward with a plan, a roadmap how to proceed and what to expect, now that would have built confidence and supported that cause. The opposite happened, Boris ducked and covered, Cameron wallowed in self-pity, major claims were debunked, Gove honed his knife. That May is now expected to dance to the music is just a joke.
As for the damage, that is done now. A few weeks of campaigning won't make much difference . The parties can align themselves along the lines and actually see which candidates best reflect the qualities necessary now.
Meanwhile perhaps a bit of mainstream coverage will illustrate what I'm banging on about here:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36696908
This just to show what kind of climate May will likely face if she should become PM. Without general elections any name up there will meet with the same kind of opposition, none will be able to get the necessary wider support for the job at hand. Which in turn will not make negotiations one bit easier. Elections are by and far the preferable way to get this. Yep, they're another couple of months of rallies but then at least you have a clear picture.
And just so we learn something about nation's favourite suicide bomber (not me words, mind ye) here's an article that did appear and wasn't pulled on anybody's pressure.
'Boris was blown up by a political psychopath but it was Mrs Gove who detonated the bomb'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3671749/RACHEL-JOHNSON-Mrs-Gove-detonated-bomb-blew-Boris.html
BTW, to whom it may concern, I'm here to advise if anyone in government wants to ask, my organisation is at your disposal. ;)
This referendum is quickly separating the children from the adults it seems.
This. The irony of it is how Mac and his Beth may have had the closest thing to a plan. Only it didn't reach further than to Boris' chest. Which makes one wonder about their overall ability to judge any kind of social interaction.
Contrary to others though I don't believe what prevents Gove's further adventures in the realm of the so-called Conservative party would be his smarmy sticky hands or the strong reek of blood, death and ambition around him. Others have not been stopped by this, why would he?
No, what ended his path was just the fact you won't find any more characters willing to turn their backs on him. And a one man party is just that.
You better stay close to your phone, sailor. For the next few years.
;)
I have to say all these comments in the media about the Tory Party making House of Cards look like Teletubbies are a little ridiculous.
I'm not aware that Michael Gove has flung any journalists off the top of the Houses of Parliament as part of his big plan to oust Boris and position himself to have a go at leadership.
Yes I know they are alluding to the Netflix version but some of what has played out this week could have come right out of the original and better BBC version.
Though if any one is looking for a role model for Lord Charles then Francis Urqhart doesn't seem far from a comparison, all the double dealing, back stabbling and political chicanery that has gone on would indeed make FU proud.
I remember also Urqhart had an American not Australian Media Chief helping pulling the strings for him, have the Goves's been getting their ideas from Michael Dobbs & Andrew Davies?
"You might well think that, I couldn't possibly comment"
As opposed to the Labour Party journal?
Of MPs complaining about Corbyn but none with the actual balls to come out
and stand against him ! Which to me at least proves, none of them has the guts to
Be a Prime Minister. The Labour party should get used to a long, long time In
Opposition.
The best place possible for the Labour Party is the wilderness of (very weak) Opposition.
And you're right they are a spineless lot. It was exactly the same in the Labour Party back when Gordon Brown was Prime Minister and all the rumbling of a coup that went on with names like David Miliband, Alan Johnson and Jack Straw being cited as rival leadership contenders but none of them having the bottle to stand against the coronated Brown even when things had gone from bad to worse in his premiership (by 2008 or so).
Doesn't :))
Will the Eagle ever take flight or has it crash Landed? ;)
A female Conservative leader, a Labour female leader and a female
President of America. ....... it's a good thing Silvio Berlusconi isn't about
As he'd be up for a few "bunga bunga parties" :D
Will also retire ! :))
You and I both pussy you and I both. ;))
Yes, I'm sure that the EU will be big enough to hold him and his massive ego! :D
So you finally understand now why choosing Michael Gove is in essence a choice for a huge multi-headed Cameron-Johnson-Farage beast?
REAL NEW leadership please. Theresa May.
I've seen this before you know? It was with the new Dutch far-right wing party LPF (List Pim Fortuyn). After he was killed by a lunatic leftist back in 2002, just days before the Parliament Elections, the LPF gained 26 seats (from 0 seats to 26). But with it came a huge leadership crisis. And a lot of Italian-esque verbal fighting and governments that fell even quicker than the average Italian government. Even the current PVV (Party Of Freedom), which was founded back in 2005 on the ashes of the LPF, has got the biggest problems when it comes to...........'temperament'. If it wasn't for Geert Wilders autoritarian style of leadership, one has to captain a ship full of right-wing retards, emotional narcists and screaming demagogues. In a way....I see the same thing happening with today's British politics.
The Tories may have a lot of seats. But like the old Dutch and Danish Christian Democrats -who are already nullified as of today) and the American GOP, the Tories now have a populist horse of Troje bullying the more sane, rational and pragmatic Conservatives. And you may have your Brexit now, but as long as the middle class keeps crumbling and the poorer people keep growing in number, the current immigration debate is far from over.
No, I most definitely don't understand your point here or agree with your liberal view that Theresa May should be the next PM. Please don't put words in my mouth. Theresa May didn't have the bottle to come out and campaign for a LEAVE vote but now she wants to benefit from it and David Cameron's resignation to be our next Prim,e Minister. I've one word for her: "pathetic".
Yet you refuse to see that the pivotal "Leave"-campaigners, Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage, are bowing out like dogs with their tails between their legs.
You can say a lot of Theresa May, but at least she's willing to lead after the Brexit, whereas Boris and Nigel only think of fellow party members bullying them and.....a holiday on a big, luxury island of the Seychelles.
It may seem that the some "Remain" politicians are willing to embrace the consequences of a Brexit in a much more dispassionate and realistic way. Theresa May is one of them.