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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Louis Jourdan was a very Handsome man as well.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Szonana wrote: »
    Here is a new one
    Sean Bean is a little too handosme to be a Bond Villain. Not all have to be Goldfinger but Sean Bean was handsome enough to play Bond himself.

    The Bond villains have to look a little creepy. Sure Sean has on his side that played another 00 agent but still so did Javier Bardem and still had the creepy vibe.
    He did a great Job as Alec Trevelyan but his looks were a little against him. Weve never have had such a good looking Bond baddie before
    I think the whole point was to make Trevelyan Bond's equal. Pierce was an equally attractive man, so it made sense, IMO.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
    edited July 2016 Posts: 1,130
    jake24 wrote: »
    Szonana wrote: »
    Here is a new one
    Sean Bean is a little too handosme to be a Bond Villain. Not all have to be Goldfinger but Sean Bean was handsome enough to play Bond himself.

    The Bond villains have to look a little creepy. Sure Sean has on his side that played another 00 agent but still so did Javier Bardem and still had the creepy vibe.
    He did a great Job as Alec Trevelyan but his looks were a little against him. Weve never have had such a good looking Bond baddie before
    I think the whole point was to make Trevelyan Bond's equal. Pierce was an equally attractive man, so it made sense, IMO.


    Thats a good point that he was supposed to be Bond's equal but I thought they just meant it in their skills as a spy. At the both actors ( Pierce Brosnan and Sean Bean) were equally attractive so it does make sense now.

    That they were almost identical it just happened that Bond stayed loyal to his country and M.


  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
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    Keep the ugly villains with physical deformities but add some spice once in a while.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    A blast of the spice weasel, always helps ! :D
  • daltoncraig13daltoncraig13 Australia
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    1. Disagree, A View to A Kill was one of the worst bond film of all time, thats definetly a controversioal opinions

    2.Agree, Jaws is very shit character now on Moonraker why would they even make him a good guy!?

    3.Disagree, Quantum Of Solace was an Ok film but the worst of Craig

    4.Agree, License To Kill was one of the Best because it was the one who made james bond movies more violent and realistic unlike the old one moore ones, License to Kill deserves an attention

    5.Disagree, Tomorrow Never Dies was the start point of Pierce Brosnan for being the shittiest bond than george lazenby
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Not sure if "controversial" is the word, but it irks me how Lazenby has a lot of quips in OHMSS, and yet almost all of them are uttered aloud, to himself: the PTS, "killing" Blofeld, the two comments he makes regarding the guard he knocks out, the one about Draco's man, the caviar comment, the drink comment to the dog at the end, and I'm sure there are a few I'm missing.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    it irks me how Lazenby has a lot of quips in OHMSS, and yet almost all of them are uttered aloud, to himself

    Doesn t everyone do that?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    it irks me how Lazenby has a lot of quips in OHMSS, and yet almost all of them are uttered aloud, to himself

    Doesn t everyone do that?

    Not as frequently as he does. I can think of seven or eight lines in OHMSS that he says aloud with nobody around to hear.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Szonana wrote: »
    Here is a new one
    Sean Bean is a little too handosme to be a Bond Villain. Not all have to be Goldfinger but Sean Bean was handsome enough to play Bond himself.

    The Bond villains have to look a little creepy. Sure Sean has on his side that played another 00 agent but still so did Javier Bardem and still had the creepy vibe.
    He did a great Job as Alec Trevelyan but his looks were a little against him. Weve never have had such a good looking Bond baddie before

    I agree with that. Although Silva was not a 00 agent but a station agent.
    Thunderpussy wrote: »
    Louis Jourdan was a very Handsome man as well.

    He was handsome but not a very masculine villain. He was somewhat asexual and thus quite creepy.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    For me a few ones that I am sure I have posted but meh I am bored and it's Friday

    1. Denise Richards is the hottest Bond girl of the Brosnan era
    2. Famke should pull a Maud Adams and play a new Bond girl in bond 25 and bond (whether played by Craig or Hardy or another actor)should sleep with her
    4. Writing on the wall is the worst bond theme ever
    5. An American assuming he was a good enough actor could be a good bond
    6. Barry Nelson wasn't as bad as everyone thinks
    7. Casino Royale 54 wasn't as bad as everyone thinks
    8. I am not looking forward to watching Moonraker and I feel it's one of the worst bond films
    9. For your eyes only is underated
    10. Dalton is the only bond actor with the perfect tenure
    11. Had the property of a lady happened it would of been good nt not great
    12. Spectre really should of been saved for the next bond actor (again keep Oberhauser have him be he head of quantum remove all mentions of Spectre and Blofeld and have bond kill Oberhauser at the end of he film and there you go the movie would of been great heck call the film Oberhauser if you want)
    13. The four unused short story titles will all at one point be used.
    14. So far I think bond fans are slightly ungrateful when look at other ideas that should be franchises and how long it takes them to get off the ground even if we have to wait four years for Bond 25. (Look at batman or Macgyver etc)
  • JawsIsAliveJawsIsAlive
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    I recently re-watched TSWLM and I can't help but feel like it's a bit over-rated. I'd still consider it Moore's best film, but some of the humour and all of the fisticuffs are pretty woeful, particularly throughout the Egypt scenes. Moore is utterly unconvincing as a tough guy, and Jaws makes me cringe more than he scares me. The opening sequence and the final act on board the Liparus are classic 007, but the rest is far too hit-and-miss to be considered among the best Bond entries.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Not overrated (same with GOLDFINGER). It's positively rollicking from start to finish.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    This the only thread where I would let such a controversial opinion go unanswered.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    Famke should pull a Maud Adams and play a new Bond girl in bond 25 and bond (whether played by Craig or Hardy or another actor)should sleep with her

    100% agree with this, another actress id love to comeback for a different role Rosamund Pike
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    JawsIsAlive wrote: »
    I recently re-watched TSWLM and I can't help but feel like it's a bit over-rated. I'd still consider it Moore's best film, but some of the humour and all of the fisticuffs are pretty woeful, particularly throughout the Egypt scenes. Moore is utterly unconvincing as a tough guy, and Jaws makes me cringe more than he scares me. The opening sequence and the final act on board the Liparus are classic 007, but the rest is far too hit-and-miss to be considered among the best Bond entries.

    It is in the second tier. Wonderful, but not elite.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    edited July 2016 Posts: 7,653
    TSWLM was a game changer for both Cubby and Moore. TSWLM and the next 007 outings of Moore played far more to his strengths and made him the indisputable 007 of his days.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    SaintMark wrote: »
    TSWLM was a game changer for both Cubby and Moore. TSWLM and the next 007 outings of Moore played far more to his strengths and made him the indisputable 007 of his days.

    Well said. An eternal top five for me.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    I find Moore better when he was still finding his feet as Bond.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Ludovico, for me, those first two movies were when he was at his best, particularly TMWTGG.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    For me Sir Roger played Bond best in his last three films.
  • JawsIsAliveJawsIsAlive
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    I don't honestly think any of the Moore Bonds are really great films. My affection for them is more down to childhood nostalgia than their actual quality. The 70s was probably the greatest decade for the motion picture industry, and I really think Cubby missed a trick when he diverted entirely from Fleming and pushed out such a succession of childish and unexciting films. As far as I'm concerned, The Living Daylights, Goldeneye, and Spectre are better than anything Moore ever did. They stick to pretty much the same formula but manage to be far more engaging.
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
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    My own controversial opinion on TSWLM is that it falls apart from the fight at Liparus onwards. Everything up to then was exciting and original. Then all the scenes seem to go on too long. The final return to Atlantis lacks any sort of tension.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I agree. As is the case half the time, the climax is really the anticlimax.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I love everything aboard the Liparus, as well as the execution of Stromberg.

    Me too. My favourite finale along with YOLT.
  • WSD77WSD77
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    IncompetentHenchman wrote: »
    My own controversial opinion on TSWLM is that it falls apart from the fight at Liparus onwards. Everything up to then was exciting and original. Then all the scenes seem to go on too long. The final return to Atlantis lacks any sort of tension.

    I think this is partly down to the score - or lack thereof at certain points. Just something that struck me last time I watched it through.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    TSWLM is a firm top five for me. It's certainly not perfect, and does slow down on the Liparus, but in totality this is an exceptional larger than life Bond film. I'd dare say it is in fact the definitive larger than life Bond film, just as FRWL is the definitive low key spy/thriller Bond film. Imho of course.

    Oh, and the score by Hamlisch is absolutely brilliant, in my controversial opinion. I wouldn't have wanted Barry on this one, unlike FYEO.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    I think the GE soundtrack is great for what it is. I thought it suited Bond well.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Agreed on both counts about TSWLM and GE. I can't imagine either film with a different score.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Count me in as well, I can't imagine either film with different music, and
    somehow. I think the cold percussion sound really suits GE
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