No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Definitely not for the sake of radicalism and go exactly opposite direction of what the past couple of films represented. No. That'd feel forced. But, a lighter tone and a storytelling that the writers are comfortable with often results in good outcomes.
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    HASEROT wrote: »
    i do have to agree with @TheWizardOfIce about the constant fluffing over the DB5 in the films... I love the car, it's iconic.. but now it's like we can't go a single Bond movie without it having to be in there.... i don't mind it popping up every now and again - but they really dumped this extra meaningless level of reverence and significance onto it recently - mind you it wasn't in a single Bond film after TB until it showed up for some reason in GE..

    I love the DB5 as well, and no question I would vote it as the most iconic Bond car. Still I agree with everything you said. It's almost as if the filmmakers have to prove it's a Bond film by having it in each film. By DAD, I was sick of it. Especially all the publicity emphasizing that "the Aston Martin is BACK". Whoop dee doo. It was back 2 films ago.
    I liked the idea of each actor having his own car- the DB5 for Sean, the Lotus for Roger, the BMW for Pierce. I think, since the Dan films seemed to be at least trying a characterization closer to the books, a Bentley would have been more interesting.
    Also with which film did it become mandatory for Bond to have a gadget filled car each time? What happened to the creativity of maybe providing Bond with another vehicle instead? Little Nellie for instance, the Amazon boat in MR? Even the motorcycle in NSNA? Had any of those films replaced those vehicles with the standard Aston Martin, I don't think those chase sequences would have been as interesting.
    Might I add (here I go again so please forgive me), if the films were released on a more regular/reliable basis, Eon wouldn't have to prove this is a Bond film and reintroduce the Aston Martin each and every time!!!
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    In an interview with Business Insider Susanne Bier shoots down rumours that she is shortlisted to direct Bond 25.

    “I’d be very honoured and it would be a lot of fun, but it’s all rumours. It’s all the media stirring something up. I don’t know why rumours grow or what initiates them,” she said.

    Bier added that she is yet to be approached by Broccoli, but stressed that becoming the first woman ever to direct a “James Bond” movie would be “amazingly fun.”
  • We vonden Pierce Brosnan echt heel grappig en goed. Maar Daniel Craig doet het op een andere manier uitstekend.

    We think Brosnan was very good, and very funny. But we also think that Daniel Craig is doing it excellent in different ways.

    SPECTRE was very much funny. But my wife put her hands in front of her eyes when that big villain made the other member of SPECTRE blind.

    Let's see what happens with Bond #25. James Bond will return.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Welcome aboard, @Parents_of_Bond.
  • Welcome aboard, @Parents_of_Bond.

    Thank you. The tank chase in GoldenEye..........could they do something like that again in Bond #25? What about a chase with drones.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Welcome aboard, @Parents_of_Bond.

    Thank you. The tank chase in GoldenEye..........could they do something like that again in Bond #25? What about a chase with drones.
    I'd love that, to be honest.

    But, some of the people I know here would heartily and radically oppose to that idea. ;)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Welcome back.
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    jake24 wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Hey all just a reminder. Craig will be back as Bond for Bond 25!!!
    More and more doubtful by the day unfortunately.
    I don't see it. A Nov 2018 can still happen
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    HASEROT wrote: »
    i do have to agree with @TheWizardOfIce about the constant fluffing over the DB5 in the films... I love the car, it's iconic.. but now it's like we can't go a single Bond movie without it having to be in there.... i don't mind it popping up every now and again - but they really dumped this extra meaningless level of reverence and significance onto it recently - mind you it wasn't in a single Bond film after TB until it showed up for some reason in GE..

    I love the DB5 as well, and no question I would vote it as the most iconic Bond car. Still I agree with everything you said. It's almost as if the filmmakers have to prove it's a Bond film by having it in each film. By DAD, I was sick of it. Especially all the publicity emphasizing that "the Aston Martin is BACK". Whoop dee doo. It was back 2 films ago.
    I liked the idea of each actor having his own car- the DB5 for Sean, the Lotus for Roger, the BMW for Pierce. I think, since the Dan films seemed to be at least trying a characterization closer to the books, a Bentley would have been more interesting.
    Also with which film did it become mandatory for Bond to have a gadget filled car each time? What happened to the creativity of maybe providing Bond with another vehicle instead? Little Nellie for instance, the Amazon boat in MR? Even the motorcycle in NSNA? Had any of those films replaced those vehicles with the standard Aston Martin, I don't think those chase sequences would have been as interesting.
    Might I add (here I go again so please forgive me), if the films were released on a more regular/reliable basis, Eon wouldn't have to prove this is a Bond film and reintroduce the Aston Martin each and every time!!!

    Right on the money.

    Between GF and TND 33 years later we had a gadget car in just GF, TB, TSWLM and TLD.

    (Tentatively you could class FYEO burglar alarm as one and GE Z3 has gadgets even though they are never used.)

    Since (and including) TND to now we have had TND, TWINE, DAD, CR (I'm counting that little tray to hold his gun), SF and SP.

    So 4 instances in 18 films over 35 years.

    And 6 instances in 7 films over 19 years.

    And the DB5 is just as bad! Twice in 17 films between 62 and 95. Since 95 (including GE) it's 6 times in 8 films. If that's not flogging a dead horse I don't know what is.

    It's got to the extent that in GE, TND, TWINE, CR and SP that we get both the DB5 and another car. Bond isn't Top Gear FFS.

    The gadget car is pastiche now and, crucially, shockingly unoriginal. Particularly during the Brozza era it was extremely tiresome. I can just about live with it in the Craig era as, despite the timeline making no sense, the DB5 opening up with the machine guns in SF is a cracking moment and the SP chase is reasonably fun. But enough EON please.

    Let's have a revamped Little Nellie by all means but can we have a break from a gadget car for at least 10 years - same gap as TSWLM and TLD, and when Dalton opens up that gadget panel after so long it was exciting.

    I think every 3 or 4 films is sufficient.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Hey all just a reminder. Craig will be back as Bond for Bond 25!!!
    More and more doubtful by the day unfortunately.
    I don't see it. A Nov 2018 can still happen

    And it will get slaughtered at the BO.

    From the back end of October through to December is no joke. You have a couple of animated films from Disney, universal's Grinch film, star wars, The harry potter spin off (Fantastic Beasts), Andy Serkis' jungle book film, Mary Poppins and a few others.

    If Bond is getting a 2018 release date, it's going to have to be one hell of a film that blows everything and everyone away and quite frankly I don't see that happening.
  • It's official now. All Bond films sick now.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Is it a virus?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Virus Omega?
  • Anyone here thinking of pulling a Lazenby if Craig quits?

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    I'm not too worried about Mary Poppins. I think there's an excellent chance it could suck, especially after the Ben-Hur remake flopping horrendously. Unless the marketing budget gets slashed a'la LTK, Bond 25 will be just as huge as ever.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'm not too worried about Mary Poppins. I think there's an excellent chance it could suck, especially after the Ben-Hur remake flopping horrendously. Unless the marketing budget gets slashed a'la LTK, Bond 25 will be just as huge as ever.

    excellent chance that it will suck? Mate, Disney are not MGM. Plus; given the time of year and a cast that boasts Emily Blunt and Meryl Streep in this new Poppins film; it's going to do well. Very well. Bond can't be coasting in these new climates and landscapes; especially after the disappointment of SP. EoN really are going to have to do something special and knock it out the park.
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'm not too worried about Mary Poppins. I think there's an excellent chance it could suck, especially after the Ben-Hur remake flopping horrendously. Unless the marketing budget gets slashed a'la LTK, Bond 25 will be just as huge as ever.

    excellent chance that it will suck? Mate, Disney are not MGM. Plus; given the time of year and a cast that boasts Emily Blunt and Meryl Streep in this new Poppins film; it's going to do well. Very well. Bond can't be coasting in these new climates and landscapes; especially after the disappointment of SP. EoN really are going to have to do something special and knock it out the park.
    True, Disney would be a formidable opponent, and this may be an instance where a new version of an old classic turns out to be very well made. But unless Eon does something dense, like say, cast Seth Green as Bond, I believe 007 can take on Mary Poppins. However, they are going to have to step it up a few notches after SP and give us a Bond film that is far more balanced. They're going to have to do that anyway.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Seth Green? Interesting choice to play Bond.
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    royale65 wrote: »
    Seth Green? Interesting choice to play Bond.
    LOL I pulled that out of the air trying to think of an inappropriate casting choice.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Just bring Mike Myers! ;)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    royale65 wrote: »
    Seth Green? Interesting choice to play Bond.
    LOL I pulled that out of the air trying to think of an inappropriate casting choice.

    Yes it's inappropriate, but if EON runs out of options, Seth Green for Bond!

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    doubleoego wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Hey all just a reminder. Craig will be back as Bond for Bond 25!!!
    More and more doubtful by the day unfortunately.
    I don't see it. A Nov 2018 can still happen

    And it will get slaughtered at the BO.

    From the back end of October through to December is no joke. You have a couple of animated films from Disney, universal's Grinch film, star wars, The harry potter spin off (Fantastic Beasts), Andy Serkis' jungle book film, Mary Poppins and a few others.

    If Bond is getting a 2018 release date, it's going to have to be one hell of a film that blows everything and everyone away and quite frankly I don't see that happening.

    Theres gonna big releases regardless from October to Dec for the next few years regardless. You cant play scared. Just do it and see what happens
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    Bond took on Return of the Jedi, Superman III, and a ton of 1983 summer blockbusters. OP was a huge hit. Bond also did well against Titanic in '97. LTK had an awful advertising campaign, and each Bond film since has remedied that problem.
    I'll say, though, it does seem like the winter season is the new summer as far as blockbusters go. When GoldenEye broke the trend and was released in November, back then there really wasn't a ton of franchise competition that time of year. Eon is still going to have to make the next one an event.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Hey all just a reminder. Craig will be back as Bond for Bond 25!!!
    More and more doubtful by the day unfortunately.
    I don't see it. A Nov 2018 can still happen

    And it will get slaughtered at the BO.

    From the back end of October through to December is no joke. You have a couple of animated films from Disney, universal's Grinch film, star wars, The harry potter spin off (Fantastic Beasts), Andy Serkis' jungle book film, Mary Poppins and a few others.

    If Bond is getting a 2018 release date, it's going to have to be one hell of a film that blows everything and everyone away and quite frankly I don't see that happening.

    Theres gonna big releases regardless from October to Dec for the next few years regardless. You cant play scared. Just do it and see what happens

    Which is why I said EoN need to make one hell of a film. With the way things are Bond can't coast and expect to generate pleasing business. Still, I have a hard time seeing EoN's situation being resolved in time to get a magnificent script ready in time for 2018, which at the moment looks like the safest year to get a Bond film out compared to the next few subsequent years which will have other major films and Star Wars and Avatar dominating the Autumn/Winter periods.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    LTK was 12th highest grossing film world wide in 1989. That's the lowest position Bond has been in 24 attempts. Not even the MCU has managed that (Ant-Man, the 1st Thor and 1st Captain America have ranked lower than 12th in their respective years).
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    LTK was 12th highest grossing film world wide in 1989. That's the lowest position Bond has been in 24 attempts. Not even the MCU has managed that (Ant-Man, the 1st Thor and 1st Captain America have ranked lower than 12th in their respective years).

    Furthermore each and every Bond movie has made a positive Return On Invest percentage.
    Meaning all 24 have made profits, mostly huge to very good, only the newer movies have made less ROI but still enough to make any other studio jealous.
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    They may well wait until 2020 to conclude the Craig era with his final outing.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    IGUANNA wrote: »
    Barry had the good graces to weave the main themes to his films all throughtout when he scored, even when it wasn't composed by him (his last 2). And he did it with power and aplomb, setting aside his ego for the sake of art. But Newman on the other hand can't even do the same, and apparently when Michael Wilson asked him to do a cue for the Macau casino with Adele's theme, he got someone else to do it. For this reason and many others I think it's time we say byeeeeee to Newman and oh hello to someone else who wants to give us a proper Bond thematic score in the fashion of old.

    Yes please
  • edited September 2016 Posts: 676
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I edited up my previous comment a bit, took too long doing it before you replied.

    Not a fan of his introductory speech? Probably one of my favorite villain intros in the series.

    Surely you don't consider Bardem's take in SF to be awful while subsequently seeing Waltz's Oberhauser/ESB in a positive light? That was nothing if not bad, thanks to the script and him not "properly finding the character" or however he worded it a week ago. Shockingly bad, I think he only delivers when he's working in a Tarantino film.
    That would seem to be the case. I can see no difference between his Blofeld performance and his performance in all those Clash of Clans commercials he whored himself out for last year.
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    In an interview with The Telegraph Ralph Fiennes weighs in on Bond 25.

    He suspects the next instalment – AKA Bond 25, the title, release date and star of which remain tantalisingly unconfirmed – will take a lighter, and therefore presumably more Russian-friendly, approach.

    “Well I think if you’re the next director of Bond, you’re going to not want to go down the tone and argument of what Sam [Mendes] has put into the films,” he says, though is quick to stress he’s “heard nothing”. “Questions of British nationhood, and whether Bond is a dinosaur, all that. So I would guess if you’re coming to do the next Bond, you’d want to take it somewhere radically different, I think.”
    Fiennes talks sense. It's good to hear that someone working on the films realizes that all these navel-gazing questions about Bond's place in the world aren't necessarily fascinating. I thought the series had already explored this stuff in 1995. But then, I'm sure Mendes thought he was breaking new ground... This is a guy so far up his own ass, he thought a boat chase on the Thames had never been done before! Of course, we all know it has, and it's been done outside Bond, as well.

    Fiennes also vetoed M-as-traitor. Make him a producer! Or at least keep him on as M. He was fantastic in Skyfall and although I thought he was a bit cartoonish in Spectre, you can't deny that he has a clarity of intention as an actor. He knows what he wants and puts in the work. I think his M could easily become just as valuable an asset to the new films as Whishaw's Q has proven to be.
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