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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    I am in no way tipping the hat for Eastwood. How do you know the budgets for his films? Are you an insider?

    Finding out the budgets for movies isn't difficult.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    I am in no way tipping the hat for Eastwood. How do you know the budgets for his films? Are you an insider?

    Finding out the budgets for movies isn't difficult.

    Yes, it's typically a few clicks away. BoxOfficeMojo is one I typically frequent for figuring out box office results/film budgets.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    Just read that Denis Villeneuve is attached to helm a remake of Dune after Blade Runner 2! Does this rule him out? Cuaron is still my bet. (And he has connections with the series and Daniel, ie QoS!) Interesting mention of Roger Michell, he was meant to helm CR, and after was offered QoS, but turned both down!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Michell seems to be the type of director I definitely wouldn't want at the helm of one of these. The likes of 'Morning Glory' and 'Notting Hill' don't inspire confidence when it comes to shooting an action/spy thriller with a big budget. Let's get someone who has a fair amount of experience with shooting action scenes.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    Michell was probably considered because he worked with Craig before 'Enduring Love', a rather dour drama/thriller ( it does have splendid opening scene involving a hot air balloon though!)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Michell was probably considered because he worked with Craig before 'Enduring Love', a rather dour drama/thriller ( it does have splendid opening scene involving a hot air balloon though!)

    Wow, I forgot about that movie. Isn't it the one involving a rather creepy Rhys Ifans? I recall enjoying it, but even still, not someone I would immediately peg to direct an action movie.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    QuantumOrganization wrote: »
    I am in no way tipping the hat for Eastwood. How do you know the budgets for his films? Are you an insider?

    Finding out the budgets for movies isn't difficult.
    Those are just their rough estimates, not exact. No way of knowing what it really is.

  • MilovyMilovy
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    dalton wrote: »
    Before EON landed Forster and Mendes, it was just the case of fans making unrealistic wishlists of directors that would never come true. That was the only way names like Vilanueve, Fincher, or Nolan would ever come up in such discussions. Now, would anyone truly be surprised if any of the bigger name directors out there today were announced to to the next Bond film? Can't say that I would, and that's fairly exciting, I think.
    This is a point well made.
    Milovy wrote: »
    Two very different choices - I would like to see what Edgar Wright or Kathryn Bigelow could do.
    A couple more I'll add: Alfonso Cuarón and Steven Soderbergh.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    John Madden
    Stephen Frears
  • phibes72phibes72
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    Chad Stehalski, of John Wick and John Wick 2 would be an excellent choice. Wick 2 is one of the best action films I have seen in a long time. Depends on the script of course, but the fight scenes and car chases would be top.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Michael Apted should come back The world is not enough is the strongest of the Brosnan era in my opinion and he is making a come back with unlocked



    As a side bar Michael Douglas as a villain or ally in a future bond film come on we all want that
    No to this. The only decent Director of the Brosnan era was Campbell.

    Says you I think TWINE is one of the best bond films

    After seeing this film and pondering over it for a few weeks, I can't help but think that it could have been so much more. TWINE is a bond film constucted of superb parts but lacking as a whole. Robert Caryle as the baddie had his many fans across UK and the rest of the world salivating at the prospect of that most talented of young British actors turning his hand towards Bond villany. But where was he in this film? Yes he had all the glorious menacing presance we had hoped for, but he hardly appeared in the film, the role of head bad 'guy' being given to the entirely un-sinister Sophie Marcau.

    Denise Richards made a suitably beautiful Bond girl, but her role in the film was 'wedged in'. After the escape from the missile silo, she had no reason to tag along with Bond, in fact her presence was absurd as 007 is supposed to be a top secret agent. And OK, the romance in Bond films is rarely convincing, but this one just seemed to spring from nowhere, just to have the out of place Roger Moore style ending (and Pierce is no Roger Moore). The action sequences were uninspiring, with the obvious exception of the blistering pre-credits scenes (which are the highlight of the whole film). John Cleese is also Austin Powers than Bond.

    The 'set looking locations' used were also rather dull and uninteresting, again with the exception of the Greenwich scenes. The real shame is that there were some great elements. Nonetheless, I can't help thinking that this film could have been so much better.


    Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

    For me the film is a masterful mystery that does try to be the next from Russia with love.. it misses the mark of course but it was the first film since maybe the living Daylights I felt the producers and everyone pushed to try and make the best bond film possible rather then a paint by numbers bond film (which though I like Licence to kill Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies all 3 definitely fill this and as for Goldeneye being the best Brosnan film that is more to do with the video game then the actual film as weirdly ever review for the film in a top 10 bond films mentions the game for some strange reason)

    Apted returning with a stronger script by say Mcquarrie and the 5th Craig film could surpass even Casino Royale.

    My opinion but that is what they say makes the world go around
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I'm with @dalton on this. We're fifteen years past DAD, the Brosnan era is over. I consider Campbell a bit old for the job now and the others... well... never a fan of them. We need a new batch of directors

    What's even scarier is that if Campbell directs the debut film of the next Bond, that means the 1st new actor not directed by him will be in the late 2020's to early 2030's, over 40 years since the last time Campbell wasn't involved in a new Bond (Timothy Dalton in 1987). It's pretty much time for EON to show they can kick-start a new tenure without Campbell.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Gavin Hood anyone?
  • MilovyMilovy
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    Not sure why anyone is talking about the guy, but I say no to Apted. TWINE is the worst film in the series. Soapy, sexless, unfunny and the action looks like it was assembled from B-roll footage.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Apted returning with a stronger script by say Mcquarrie and the 5th Craig film could surpass even Casino Royale.

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  • patbpatb
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    I'm enjoyiong this thread but I think we are focussing too much on the director and not enough on the script writer. Imagine QoS with one of the best Bond scripts ever and the same Director.
    Now imagine QoS with a different Director but the same script.
  • MilovyMilovy
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    MrKissKissBangBang wrote: »
    TWINE is far from being the worst in the series. Sure, there's a little of melodrama, but Fleming didn't shy away from that in his works. Sexless? We have a villainess who uses sex to manipulate (and teases Bond about an impending erection from her torture), the Bond girl with the healthiest of all chests as a nuclear physicist, and Bond sleeping his way through a medical evaluation. I'd apply the term 'sexless' to Craig's era of "Bond". Humour is in the eye of the beholder so if you don't find TWINE funny that's your call. And I don't believe you understand the term B-roll footage, so I'll point you to the direction of google for clarification.
    I don't find Elektra's constant pouting and sulking like a child to be sexy in the slightest. As for the rest, eh, I'm not gonna convince you, you're not gonna convince me, what's the point.

    I do know what B-roll is - what I mean to say is that the coverage of the action often seems to lack any purpose or energy. None of it makes an impact. Just compare with any action in the Campbell films - he knows how to put together an action sequence.
  • MilovyMilovy
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    MrKissKissBangBang wrote: »
    The action in GE is excellent, I'll give you that. The action in CR leaves a lot to be desired. Colourless, sterile, sequences that characterise Bond as a generic, thuggish action hero.
    You don't find the parkour exciting, or the stairwell fight? The parkour is one of the best action sequences I've seen in any film. I do see an argument for "colourless, sterile" when talking about the airport sequence.
    MrKissKissBangBang wrote: »
    But you're right. We aren't going to convince each other.

    Shame. You could learn a thing or two about James Bond otherwise. :>
    Lol.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    MrKissKissBangBang wrote: »
    The action in GE is excellent, I'll give you that. The action in CR leaves a lot to be desired. Colourless, sterile, sequences that characterise Bond as a generic, thuggish action hero.
    Can't help but agree with this.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    MrKissKissBangBang wrote: »
    The action in GE is excellent, I'll give you that. The action in CR leaves a lot to be desired. Colourless, sterile, sequences that characterise Bond as a generic, thuggish action hero.
    Can't help but agree with this.
    I can't disagree with this more. CR is a more grounded, "realistic" film and the sequences reflect that.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    MrKissKissBangBang wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    MrKissKissBangBang wrote: »
    The action in GE is excellent, I'll give you that. The action in CR leaves a lot to be desired. Colourless, sterile, sequences that characterise Bond as a generic, thuggish action hero.
    Can't help but agree with this.
    I can't disagree with this more. CR is a more grounded, "realistic" film and the sequences reflect that.

    Sure thing. In other words, very "phlegmingesque".
    This guy gets me! :))

    It's almost as if my alter ego is writing it! :D
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    The action in CR & GE was perfectly fine to me, and far superior to anything either actor's run has dished out since. The visceral parkour and staircase encounters were a welcome return to form after the generic nonsense in TND, DAD & TWINE. The Miami sequence went on a bit and seemed as if it was devised primarily to showcase that EON had cast a younger, more virile Bond who could run for miles, but it was quite fun.

    The only encounters during the Craig era that match it for me are the PTS in QoS/SF, the Mitchell chase in QoS & the Hinx fight in SP.
  • Escalus5Escalus5
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Interesting mention of Roger Michell, he was meant to helm CR, and after was offered QoS, but turned both down!

    Michell accepted the offer to direct QoS and went into pre-production. He got scared when he realized the script wasn't going to be ready in time and backed out.

    http://metro.co.uk/2011/01/19/roger-michell-harrison-ford-is-good-at-being-grumpy-629849/

    I'm guessing Babs and MGW were not happy about this decision. I think it's unlikely they will ask Michell again.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    MrKissKissBangBang wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    The action in CR & GE was perfectly fine to me, and far superior to anything either actor's run has dished out since. The visceral parkour and staircase encounters were a welcome return to form after the generic nonsense in TND, DAD & TWINE. The Miami sequence went on a bit and seemed as if it was devised primarily to showcase that EON had cast a younger, more virile Bond who could run for miles, but it was quite fun.

    The only encounters during the Craig era that match it for me are the PTS in QoS/SF, the Mitchell chase in QoS & the Hinx fight in SP.

    The TND PTS and bike chase, and the TWINE boat chase is superior to anything in CR. And you can't discount points for lack of originality in the Brosnan era and attempt to bump up points for the Miami International Airport sequence. The TND car chase alone reinforces that the series isn't creatively bankrupt, not to mention my other aforementioned sequences, whereas I'm almost certain we saw something similar to the airport scene in a Die Hard movie.
    The TND PTS and bike chase were very good. There's no doubt about that. Highlights in an actionfest of a film.

    The TND car chase didn't do anything for me at all, fancy remote control car notwithstanding. No tension and too gadget laden throughout. The same year that Spottiswoode was pissing about with remote controls, Mimi Leder showed how to create a tense visceral chase sequence with Mercedes and BMW products in The Peacemaker.

    The TWINE boat chase was a bore, as was every action sequence in that film.

    Yes, there was a superb airport sequence in DH2, but that only served to show up the useless newspaper factory sequence in TND. DH2 showed how it's done on the conveyor belts. A proper schooling.

    Like I said, I don't mind the CR Miami sequence but it's not the best one in the film. That honour goes to the parkour and staircase fight. The Venice finale on the other hand was a major let down for me.

    The two Campbell films were easily the best when it came to ratcheting up the tension in the action sequences in my view. They didn't have the budget of the rest, but did an excellent job with what they had.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    Never been a fan of the TND PTS. Controversial, I know. I'm not even sure Terrorists Bazaars exist?
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    You all think theres any chance Steven Soderbergh could direct Bond 25?
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    I prefer they get a more action oriented director since we've had Mendes for 2 films.
  • MilovyMilovy
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    You all think theres any chance Steven Soderbergh could direct Bond 25?
    Considering the fact that Soderbergh is a Bond fan and has had talks with EON before, the fact Craig is working with Soderbergh right now, and the fact that Craig has helped recruit talent for his films before (Forster, Mendes, Bardem, maybe more)... I would say Soderbergh is the safest bet for Bond 25. If you like betting, that is. ;)
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    I didn't know Forster was tipped by Craig?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I'd be ok with Soderbergh. A film by him would be slick and stylish and it would have excellent characterizations. I'd like to see that.
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