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I commend them for at least shooting them in a wind tunnel (imagine how bad it would've been without it), but at the same time, picture how great the scene would've been if it was two stunt doubles performing it as realistically as they can; they needn't zoom in on the actor's faces at all, in that case. I would've preferred something like what MR's PTS did - practical stunt with obvious stunt doubles in play. Better than CGI to me.
That was at Milton Keynes Xcape near where I live.
Very cool! Catch them while they were filming? Ever tried it yourself? Would love to give one a go some day.
No ,its always top secret.
In fact,the Aston Martin night chase,swerving Vesper, and flip-over in CR was filmed at Millbrook Proving Ground,even closer to me,my ex-wife used to work there.
The roads you see the Aston on before,during and after the crash are all from there.
Its a site where they test vehicles and tanks etc for the police,army etc to make sure they can take the pressure of chases or other scenarios.
I aim to please ;)
When I heard about them filming it in the frefall simulator I thought we were in for an epic sequence (although my suspicions should've been aroused by not a frame of it appearing in the trailer) to rival MR and then we got a 100% CGI sequence. Did they learn nothing from DAD?
Use the simulator for close ups of the actors as this would be better than Rog having a hairdryer blown in his face against a blue screen in MR. But for the free fall use STUNTMEN FFS.
It's a 30 second YouTube search to find guys who can do it:
That footage of a couple of blokes with go pro cameras is a thousand times better than the sequence they ended up with which probably cost hundreds of thousands and took weeks to film.
PS - I have had a go on the Milton Keynes Xcape (does this count as a Bond location pilgrimage?) and it's way harder than you think. Just the slightest movement of your little finger and you go flying across the room - surprised Dan managed it actually as we all know what his little finger is like.
Haven't seen the new point break (and probably never will) but at least it sounds like it stays true to the original.
Seems like EON have forgotten what made Bond the brand leader for all those years - blokes like Rick Sylvester, Martin Grace, BJ Worth and Remy Julienne actually risking life and limb.
Painful as it is to admit and say what you like about Tom Cruise but his commitment to jaw dropping stunts mean the MI films have wiped the floor with Bond over the last decade in terms of action.
Agreed once more Wiz,we are on form today .
Yes, past the impressive stunts, there's virtually nothing else to enjoy in the movie. It's best to skip that one. I really enjoy the original one, however.
- Make Hinx more memorable by using the thumbnails more, these deserved more than one scene.
- Develop Waltz more and make him more sinister than subdued. I'd also drop any references to Skyfall and the whole half brother thing has to go!
- Some of The L'American + the train "development" drags the pace down a bit, so I'd probably reworked these parts (even though parts of it were nice).
- The torture scene in the film meant nothing, so either it needed to have Bond experiencing pain/balance/focusing issues or I'd have removed it.
- There is one finale too many, so I'd have reworked the script so that M,Q,Tanner could simulatenously battle C in London whilst Bond + Madeleine were battling in the desert base - cutting between the two for dramatic effect.
- A more Bondian score during the action cues (more like the rooftop opening shot and Thunderball-esque brass work used during the boat finale when Bond shoots at the helicopter).
- I'd also handle the marketing differently - so that the reveal they tried so desperately to hide was more "up-front and centre".
I do like that seeming reference to Thunderball in the score there.
Yeah, trying to hide Waltz's casting was completely pointless. Meant nothing to general audiences and didn't amount to much more than lying to fans. I mean, they called the movie Spectre for crying out loud. If Blofeld's return is supposedly a selling point, why not just be upfront about it?
Omg I thought I was going crazy. You see that too? It looks like absoulte 320 p garbage. Some of the shots in the helicopter fight look like bull shit the building falling looks like shit blofelds layer looks weirdly cgi and mi6 falling down is pretty bad. Also I hate the story and how the finale goes down and then how he jumps with her into the net
Hinx needed to be more well developed.
Blofeld should have played Vespers interrogation tape instead of Whites death & or have White interact with Blofeld & have him killed in front of Bond & madeline.
There was too much SF. They didn't need the destroyed building, and Judi Dench, and the photograph...one of these three would have been enough. This applies to a lot of the script--cut three references to just one (for example, Vesper's tape, Vesper's photo, Blofeld's "author of all your pain.") The whole script needed another strong pass to streamline it and take out all the fanboy overkill.
I like the L'American scenes. They're one of the more original parts of the script.
Remember the GE trailer? They gave away the 006 twist! At least with SP in the trailer they could have hinted at the things that people do remember about Blofeld--the cat, for one.
That goldeneye trailer is pretty awesome till you realize the entire film is in it
Could someone get a screencap for this, please? All this talk about CGI/stunt faces fascinates me because I never really see it in the films. Thnx.
I have a really good eye for cgi and so it bothers me a lot in films but if you don't see it then don't try to because it's better to not see it and enjoy the film more
I understand what you mean by this. My theory is that either the producers and Mendes wanted Hoyte Van Hoytema for his work on Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy so they used that kind of look for the film or Hoytema just took inspiration from his previous work on TTSS and thought it was fitting, but with a James Bond film, the cinematography needs some scale to it. I don't just think its just the cinematography either, I feel it's some of the production design, it's not as well utilised as Skyfall did, you really felt you were travelling the world and seeing the beauty of it, whereas Spectre only had a few shots where you truly felt it, with most of the shots feeling tight, small scale and in some cases CGI-y, like you say. I think they should have tried to get Deakins back because he did some wonderous work on Skyfall and I think could have done something really interesting and groundbreaking with Spectre.
Yes I'm pleased to say that in CR I can't rember any obvious cgi and or green screen unlike all the other Craig films. Less so QOS but there is a lot in skyfall and SPECTRE, those films look like plastic.
Yeah but I feel like I'm missing something :).
But they did stuff for real in SPECTRE it just feels like they did some stuff for real and then did cgi over it for some reason
Think I hit on all the points.
I don't agree with everything you said, but that's actually a pretty good post.
I have no issue with Bond going rogue, I like the fact that he acts this way because he trusts no one (I know some find it tiring and I agree it's been overdone with the last movies).
Regarding Bond not killing Blofeld, the reason Bond does not kill him is because he remembers the words of Mr. White and Madeleine, and even Vesper's from Casino Royale. They all address the fact he's an assassin and he's been doing that for all his life. Bond can choose whether to kill or not to kill Blofeld, but he eventually decides not to because he truly wants to change. The fact it was his choice is what makes it meaningful.