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  • noSolaceleftnoSolaceleft
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    bondjames wrote: »
    It's amazing isn't it? We went from having these supporting characters as just that to not having them at all. Then some genius decided to add them back into the mix and give them more to do (just because it's fashionable in other franchises I suppose).

    Rather unfortunate. It's almost like they did a directional shift half way through this reboot thing after a reassessment.
    bondjames wrote: »
    It's amazing isn't it? We went from having these supporting characters as just that to not having them at all. Then some genius decided to add them back into the mix and give them more to do (just because it's fashionable in other franchises I suppose).

    Rather unfortunate. It's almost like they did a directional shift half way through this reboot thing after a reassessment.

    Broccoli and Wilson simple lack the creative vision and because of that they simply following the trends other set. Sad but true.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I find SF to be a frustrating film but I wouldn't class it as largely unwatchable. However, SP on the other hand, that's an insufferable movie that physically pains me.
  • noSolaceleftnoSolaceleft
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    peter wrote: »
    @JWESTBROOK ... +1

    Make that 2
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    EON would be very, very lucky to get Villeneuve.
  • vzokvzok
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    However promising the director, this series of films is great enough that a director should be considering themselves lucky to get hired.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Not every director has an interest in Bond, let alone a vision for it. Many big film directors have turned down Bond and they don't regret it.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    I say no on Villeneuve, & I think EON might as well as after BR2049.

    Villeneueve is too polarizing & not mainstream enough for Bond, he can craft suspense, & immerse you in his world & visuals but he is too heavy for Bond. He isnt an action director either.

    Bond isnt a fit for him IMO.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    As evidenced by 2049 (though not heavy on the action) he handles it extremely well (more so than Nolan and even Mendes). I'd be totally fine with B25 focussing more on suspense and the overall "thriller" aspect rather than an action-heavy approach. And I know many will disagree with me on this, but we need something heavy for Craig's last film, something which Villeneuve could more than deliver.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I say no on Villeneuve, & I think EON might as well as after BR2049.

    Villeneueve is too polarizing & not mainstream enough for Bond, he can craft suspense, & immerse you in his world & visuals but he is too heavy for Bond. He isnt an action director either.

    Bond isnt a fit for him IMO.
    I can see where you're coming from and to an extent I agree. However, there is Bond, and then there is Craig Bond, which is its quite distinct entity. For the latter, Villeneuve can work and may even be desirable. As I've said before, a worthy successor to Mendes. A 'theme' player. Those not in favour of any more of these sort of Bond films (to a degree I'm one of them) will have to wait, most likely until 2022, for a change in direction.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited October 2017 Posts: 4,589
    If DV won't do it, maybe DC can turn his attention to this guy:



    I know he traffics in SciFi, but damn...
  • GetafixGetafix
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Not every director has an interest in Bond, let alone a vision for it. Many big film directors have turned down Bond and they don't regret it.

    Would be interesting to see a list of directors who've turned it down.

    1. K. Bigelow?
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    Posts: 3,675
    Getafix wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Not every director has an interest in Bond, let alone a vision for it. Many big film directors have turned down Bond and they don't regret it.

    Would be interesting to see a list of directors who've turned it down.

    1. K. Bigelow?

    Speilberg?
  • genuinefelixleitergenuinefelixleiter
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    Villeneueve is a fine director. It'd be great if they could get Deakins to lens again. How about Deakins on camera and Campbell directing?
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Not every director has an interest in Bond, let alone a vision for it. Many big film directors have turned down Bond and they don't regret it.

    Would be interesting to see a list of directors who've turned it down.

    1. K. Bigelow?

    Speilberg?

    From what I understand, Spielberg didn't turn down Bond. EON turned down Spielberg.

    But in the new HBO documentary Spielberg, in which DC is featured for a bit, George Lucas reveals that Spielberg wanted to do a Bond film but he was talked out of it to do Indiana Jones.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Interesting. Can you see Spielberg now? I might have to have a watch.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited October 2017 Posts: 11,119
    Another article about Denis Villeneuve. This time it shows that Villeneuve could very well be considering to delay the filmprojects he's working on right now ("Cleopatra", "The Son", "Dune"). Because this is one giant orgasmic compliment from the man:
    And with any luck, they may get to work together on the most durably replicating movie franchise of all time: Daniel Craig, who holds considerable influence as its current star, recently named Villeneuve as his first choice to direct the next Bond movie.

    “I can’t comment on that,” says Villeneuve. “I know they are talking to a lot of directors.” To take on such a challenge, of course, he would have to succumb to commercial formula for the first time in his career. But it’s a prospect that clearly tempts him. “The thing is, Bond is an old, old wet dream for me,” he admits. “How can you describe it otherwise? It would be an opportunity to approach filmmaking in a pure, playful way. It would be like playing with massive toys. But it all depends on the schedule.”
    source: http://www.macleans.ca/culture/movies/how-a-pair-of-canadians-infused-their-dna-into-blade-runner-2049/

    Then again, Denis Villeneuve has a tendency to be very outspoken, openminded and transparant about his cinematic desires. He's kinda cute when he doesn't hold back hehe ;-).

    Anyway, I think co-producer Daniel Craig and producer Barbara Broccoli are trying everything to lure him into doing Craig's farewell-Bond. It hasn't been this obvious before.
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Does that perhaps suggest he was approached to do NSNA?
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Does that perhaps suggest he was approached to do NSNA?

    What do you personally think ;-)?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Getafix wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Not every director has an interest in Bond, let alone a vision for it. Many big film directors have turned down Bond and they don't regret it.

    Would be interesting to see a list of directors who've turned it down.

    1. K. Bigelow?
    2. John Woo
    3. Renny Harlin
  • vzokvzok
    Posts: 4,045
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Not every director has an interest in Bond, let alone a vision for it. Many big film directors have turned down Bond and they don't regret it.

    Would be interesting to see a list of directors who've turned it down.

    1. K. Bigelow?
    2. John Woo
    3. Renny Harlin

    Any idea when they turned it down?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited October 2017 Posts: 15,423
    vzok wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Not every director has an interest in Bond, let alone a vision for it. Many big film directors have turned down Bond and they don't regret it.

    Would be interesting to see a list of directors who've turned it down.

    1. K. Bigelow?
    2. John Woo
    3. Renny Harlin

    Any idea when they turned it down?
    Both during the first half of the 90s. Harlin was to direct that sci-fi driven third Dalton film, and Woo was offered GoldenEye. Woo even went to say he was “honoured” but wasn’t interested in Bond. Harlin's problem on the other hand was Dalton. He didn't like him at all as Bond.

    Now, other directors who turned Bond down...

    4. Peter Jackson
    5. Danny Boyle
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    Thanks for posting this new Bond related snipped from a Villeneuve interview, @Gustav_Graves! Would he be your number one choice right now? I'm still very hopeful that he is going to do it, Dune will definitely not be his next film.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited October 2017 Posts: 15,423
    Somehow I have a feeling Denis Villeneuve is our man. I mean... the man in the seat, not the fan favourite.

    Having said that, does anybody know when we might get a concrete news, again?
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    Thank god we didn't get Renny Harlin. He is average at best.

    John Woo would have been interesting, but I am not sure I would have enjoyed Bond flying around in slow motion with a PPK in each hand.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited October 2017 Posts: 15,423
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Thank god we didn't get Renny Harlin. He is average at best.

    John Woo would have been interesting, but I am not sure I would have enjoyed Bond flying around in slow motion with a PPK in each hand.
    We dodged a bullet on both, I say. You share the same sentiments as I do on both. I like Woo myself, but if he was going to do with Bond what he did with Mission: Impossible II, no thanks. It would have been awful, bad and laughable. He's always style over substance. And sometimes not in a complimentary way.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Thank god we didn't get Renny Harlin. He is average at best.

    John Woo would have been interesting, but I am not sure I would have enjoyed Bond flying around in slow motion with a PPK in each hand.
    We dodged a bullet on both, I say. You share the same sentiments as I do on both. I like Woo myself, but if he was going to do with Bond what he did with Mission: Impossible II, no thanks. It would have been awful, bad and laughable.

    Indeed. In fairness to Woo, his films do often have spectacular stunt work, like Face Off for example. The only problem is, that without fail they his films are always eye rollingly cheesy. We probably would have got something so outlandish it would have made tidal wave surfing look restrained.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Roadphill wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Thank god we didn't get Renny Harlin. He is average at best.

    John Woo would have been interesting, but I am not sure I would have enjoyed Bond flying around in slow motion with a PPK in each hand.
    We dodged a bullet on both, I say. You share the same sentiments as I do on both. I like Woo myself, but if he was going to do with Bond what he did with Mission: Impossible II, no thanks. It would have been awful, bad and laughable.

    Indeed. In fairness to Woo, his films do often have spectacular stunt work, like Face Off for example. The only problem is, that without fail they his films are always eye rollingly cheesy. We probably would have got something so outlandish it would have made tidal wave surfing look restrained.
    Exactly. I mean, things like that work for films like Hard Boiled, but not Bond or any sensible spy film for the matter. M:I-II makes Die Another Day look like an intellectual film.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    edited October 2017 Posts: 2,722
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Not every director has an interest in Bond, let alone a vision for it. Many big film directors have turned down Bond and they don't regret it.

    Would be interesting to see a list of directors who've turned it down.

    1. K. Bigelow?
    2. John Woo
    3. Renny Harlin

    Any idea when they turned it down?
    Both during the first half of the 90s. Harlin was to direct that sci-fi driven third Dalton film, and Woo was offered GoldenEye. Woo even went to say he was “honoured” but wasn’t interested in Bond. Harlin's problem on the other hand was Dalton. He didn't like him at all as Bond.

    Now, other directors who turned Bond down...

    4. Peter Jackson
    5. Danny Boyle

    My understanding was Barbara B turned down Jackson? The story I heard was she saw Heavenly Creatures and was interested and then saw his follow up The Frighteners and didn't like it so stopped pursuing?

    EDIT: But then maybe the post script to that was she saw him win oscars and break the box office with lord of the rings and asked him again?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Not every director has an interest in Bond, let alone a vision for it. Many big film directors have turned down Bond and they don't regret it.

    Would be interesting to see a list of directors who've turned it down.

    1. K. Bigelow?
    2. John Woo
    3. Renny Harlin

    Any idea when they turned it down?
    Both during the first half of the 90s. Harlin was to direct that sci-fi driven third Dalton film, and Woo was offered GoldenEye. Woo even went to say he was “honoured” but wasn’t interested in Bond. Harlin's problem on the other hand was Dalton. He didn't like him at all as Bond.

    Now, other directors who turned Bond down...

    4. Peter Jackson
    5. Danny Boyle

    My understanding was Barbara B turned down Jackson? The story I heard was she saw Heavenly Creatures and was interested and then saw his follow up The Frighteners and didn't like it so stopped pursuing?
    There are many versions of that story, accordingly.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited October 2017 Posts: 11,119
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Another article about Denis Villeneuve. This time it shows that Villeneuve could very well be considering to delay the filmprojects he's working on right now ("Cleopatra", "The Son", "Dune"). Because this is one giant orgasmic compliment from the man:
    And with any luck, they may get to work together on the most durably replicating movie franchise of all time: Daniel Craig, who holds considerable influence as its current star, recently named Villeneuve as his first choice to direct the next Bond movie.

    “I can’t comment on that,” says Villeneuve. “I know they are talking to a lot of directors.” To take on such a challenge, of course, he would have to succumb to commercial formula for the first time in his career. But it’s a prospect that clearly tempts him. “The thing is, Bond is an old, old wet dream for me,” he admits. “How can you describe it otherwise? It would be an opportunity to approach filmmaking in a pure, playful way. It would be like playing with massive toys. But it all depends on the schedule.”
    source: http://www.macleans.ca/culture/movies/how-a-pair-of-canadians-infused-their-dna-into-blade-runner-2049/

    Then again, Denis Villeneuve has a tendency to be very outspoken, openminded and transparant about his cinematic desires. He's kinda cute when he doesn't hold back hehe ;-).

    Anyway, I think co-producer Daniel Craig and producer Barbara Broccoli are trying everything to lure him into doing Craig's farewell-Bond. It hasn't been this obvious before.
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Thanks for posting this new Bond related snipped from a Villeneuve interview, @Gustav_Graves! Would he be your number one choice right now? I'm still very hopeful that he is going to do it, Dune will definitely not be his next film.

    To be very honest: I can both live with Denis Villeneuve and Yann Demange. But, since EON Productions probably want to make the best ever send-off within the Bond franchise (and let's face it, that has never happened before), I can understand Craig's and Broccoli's reasoning for basically kidnapping Villeneuve ;-). I think that this is also the way they are selling the Bond25-project to potential directors: A big, gigantic send-off that will equal the quality of "Casino Royale" and "Skyfall".

    And then Yann Demange is perfect for doing Bond #26 with a new Bond actor. Wouldn't you say?
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