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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    All everybody wants is more of the MCU. Meaning they want bright, colorful movies and comedy all over the place.

    And yet, ironically it's DC that are the biggest laughing stock right now.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I meant to note that, but I'm fairly certain I read that it opened slightly underneath tracking in foreign markets, as well, with estimates being in the $200 million range.
    Yes I read that too. It opened on par with Ragnarok in China and in some other markets but is apparently underperforming against expectations in Europe.
  • Posts: 676
    I'm not a big fan of DC stuff, so this isn't important to me, but I have wondered about the wisdom of selling a Justice League movie to the public without including Superman in any of the marketing. When you think "Justice League," you think Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman, and they've effectively left out one third of that equation. It's like releasing a Bond film called Spectre and then telling everyone Blofeld's not in it. And then to have Superman dead for part of the actual movie! It boggles the mind, the decisions WB has made.
  • Milovy wrote: »
    I'm not a big fan of DC stuff, so this isn't important to me, but I have wondered about the wisdom of selling a Justice League movie to the public without including Superman in any of the marketing. When you think "Justice League," you think Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman, and they've effectively left out one third of that equation. It's like releasing a Bond film called Spectre and then telling everyone Blofeld's not in it. And then to have Superman dead for part of the actual movie! It boggles the mind, the decisions WB has made.

    Which is what they did—basically—with Waltz denying he was playing Blofeld.
  • Posts: 676
    I know, just a bit of dry humour. ;)
  • ;) Gotcha
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    The best parts of the movie are not in the trailer, and there is a scene in the trailer that is not in the movie.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,223
    The best parts of the movie are not in the trailer, and there is a scene in the trailer that is not in the movie.

    More than one. A lot, in fact. Whedon chopped a lot of Snyder footage. He also reshot nearly every Superman scene.

    Some for better, some for worse.
  • Posts: 19,339
    This just in from the Daily Telegraph :

    The end for DC? Justice League stumbles at the US box office .

    In the aftermath of dismal reviews, Justice League has underperformed at the box office in its US debut, with the superhero team-up movie grossing far less than studio Warner Bros had earlier projected.
    The film grossed $96 million over the three days, against early tracking suggesting it would gross between $110 -$120 million.
    It's also the lowest opening weekend of the Extended DC Universe, comprising of films including Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman, and the first to not clear $100 million in its opening weekend.
    Internationally, Justice League grossed $185 million across the three days, with the UK contributing $9.8m of it – a 4% increase on the opening weekend of Thor: Ragnarok three weeks ago. It's a different story in the US, however, with the Marvel rival clearing $122 million in its opening weekend on the back of strong buzz and glowing reviews.

    It has also been suggested that the film will likely experience a significant drop-off in audiences in its second week, mimicking the trajectory of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice . That movie dropped a steep 69% in its second week at the US box office back in March 2016.

    According to Deadline, Justice League will need to ultimately gross $750 million worldwide to break even, with sources telling the site that the film's production and promotional cost is at least $450 million.

    Justice League's fraught finances have been a matter of concern for several months, after it was revealed Warner Bros had spent $25 million on reshoots which commenced this summer under the guidance of Joss Whedon, who stepped in following the departure of original director Zack Snyder.



  • edited November 2017 Posts: 6,844
    They need to front-burner their Wonder Woman sequel—the only audience-proven character they have right now—and then figure out what the hell they're doing with Batman, which should be a massively successful and massively easy property. Everything else? Shazam? Aquaman? A Cyborg movie? Forget trying to be Marvel. You guys are head underwater with a Titanic-sized boat coming down on top of you. Wonder Woman and Batman. Just get those two right and start expanding once you have money in your pockets and audiences on your side.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,228
    I've read that there was an initial 3 hour cut of JL, perhaps this, or at least a longer cut will be released on Blu-ray.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,223
    talos7 wrote: »
    I've read that there was an initial 3 hour cut of JL, perhaps this, or at least a longer cut will be released on Blu-ray.

    You might get an extended cut but the chances of seeing a Snyder cut are very slim.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    Posts: 7,854
    Not for 20 years, at least.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,985
    Snyder cut won't happen, considering his cut wasn't even finished. They'd have to spend more money to finalize it, which they'll never do.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited November 2017 Posts: 11,139
    The actual numbers are in and Justice League didn't even make $96Million. It grossed a domestic weekend number of $94Million.

    Damn. Wow.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/justice-league-box-office-setback-dcs-superhero-universe-1059826


  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,985
    If BvS didn't cross $1 billion, then this one definitely isn't.

    It's still crazy to see films have a $94 million opening domestic weekend that is deemed underwhelming.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited November 2017 Posts: 15,719
    Ironically, Justice League has the biggest world-wide opening weekend of any superhero movie in 2017.

    Justice League: $281.5 million
    Spider-man Homecoming: $256.5 million
    Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2: $252.5 million
    Logan: $247.4 million
    Thor Ragnarok: $231.8 million
    Wonder Woman: $228.3 million

    Still, way below such films as BvS ($422.5 million), The Avengers ($392.5 million), Age of Ultron ($392.5 million), Spider-Man 3 ($381.7 million), Captain America Civil War ($379.5 million), Iron Man 3 ($372.5 million).
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited November 2017 Posts: 11,139
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    If BvS didn't cross $1 billion, then this one definitely isn't.

    It's still crazy to see films have a $94 million opening domestic weekend that is deemed underwhelming.

    That's the thing, the Box Office landscape for these type of tentpole films operate on OW numbers North of $100million.

    I remember how much of a big deal it was when spider-man back in 2002 grossed an OW domestic number of $115million. 6 years later Marvel Studios release the first of their cinematic universe by relying on their B and C list characters with their leading actor being a huge risk to boot (RDJ). Iron Man went on to earn an opening weekend of $99Million.

    Compare that with a movie with a budget north of $300Million and based on A-list iconic characters that's supposed to rival the Avengers and Yeah, an OW domestic number of $94Million is embarrassingly pitiful.

    Over at Forbes, Rob Cain crunches the numbers.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/11/20/the-question-for-justice-league-is-not-how-much-money-it-will-make-but-how-much-it-could-lose/#17d655917c66

    JL is on course to lose millions.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,985
    @doubleoego, exactly, it's just the changing of the landscape that's surprising to me. 20 years or so ago, that'd be a solid number for any film's worldwide take, and now it's a number JUST for the opening weekend, and it's a disappointment. Wild how far we've come.

    I read several days back that JL will begin to turn a little profit once it passes the $700 million mark, not sure how true that still stands however.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,246
    Meddling WB are clueless they need to dump this Universe BS and get back to making stand alone films.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,985
    Lots of studios are over eager to make a universe, without putting in the proper steps and time to get there.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,246
    DC generally have made good one character films in the past, it's all collapsed since they attempted this universe. WB constantly insisting course corrects probably have made things much worse also, I like MoS and BvS and wanted a continuation of those films, JL was not that which irritates me about the film.

    Bottom line too much bad press has pushed the audience away, viewers have lost any faith in DC.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @doubleoego, exactly, it's just the changing of the landscape that's surprising to me. 20 years or so ago, that'd be a solid number for any film's worldwide take, and now it's a number JUST for the opening weekend, and it's a disappointment. Wild how far we've come.

    Yeah it's crazy. It's also the reason why studios don't take the time to make enough smaller and mid-sized films that essentially died out in the 90s. It's a crying shame but then again I suppose that's what Amazon and Netflix are for to some degree.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    edited November 2017 Posts: 1,003
    Justice League review
    Some minor spoilers!

    Well where to begin..
    I have been waiting for a JL live action film since I was a kid. Unfortunately the movie was a 7/10 for me. Don’t get me wrong, Zach Snyder cast all the right actors/actresses for the roles. The costumes were stunning and amazing. There were some promising shots in the film that were god like...

    For example the red skies were amazing, kinda gives a preview of the world DS and SW live in. Loved it. The ending shot of Batman with his batchopter was also one of my favorite shots. Got me pumped for a solo Bat film!

    Now I managed to talk to a guy who did some of the visual effects for the film, basically for those who don’t know about “Mustache Gate”, Henry Cavill had a mustache throughout the filming process. He was in Mission Impossible and they said he wasn’t allowed to shave it. So they had to reshoot a good chunk of the movie when Whedon came aboard. The lower part of Cavills face was pure CGI. The first half of the film is Snyder and the second half is pure Whedon (minus the Superman ending and post credit scenes).

    My problem with this film is that it really needed an extra hour just to flow better. I actually think “Suicide Squad” was a better film.. Yes JL was better than BVS but the problem is that the entire plot fell flat, I didn’t feel like there was really any real danger. They are literally in a remote part of Russia, to me they should’ve had SW take over Gotham, should’ve showed Parademons killing innocent bystanders. They needed to show that the end of the world threat was real.

    I would’ve rather they waited till say Feb-March 2018 just to perfect the CGI and to add an extra hour to the movie. I would’ve gladly waited.

    Instead we got a rushed movie with some really crappy CGI.
    The whole movie just felt off. We deserve so much better.

    Another thing that sucked for me is that the team pretty much couldn’t even handle SW, Superman shows up and kicked his ass with ease. I was expecting way more. Once again Batman became a bystander to a threat he couldn’t even remotely handle. This is one reason why cutting Deathstroke out of the film sucked. Seeing Batman take on Deathstroke would’ve been a great little side story for Batman. How can they go from the warehouse scene to this?

    So I blame the writing, the directorial change, CGI deadline and cutting out the eight leaked deleted scenes.

    We only get on DC movie next year and that’s next December (Aquaman). So much for DC’s place to release 2-3 films a year. Ben Affleck is always rumored to leave.


    Now some major spoilers about that one post credit scene...

    Deathstroke and Lex talk about forming a legion of doom team!
    Gotta say that Deathstroke costume was insanely badass.
    One of the highlights of the film sadly. It’s looking like the legion of doom will be in Suicide Squad 2 possibly or maybe that will be the plot of the Deathstroke solo film? I doubt they will include that for the plot of a JL2. Also wonder if they hope to add Shazam or GL to the team. Possibly both.

    I am more excited for the legion of doom than a justice league 2.

    Can anyone else picture Matthew Mcconaughey for Reverse Flash?! Hyped![\spoiler]
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,246
    Justice League review
    Some minor spoilers!

    Well where to begin..
    I have been waiting for a JL live action film since I was a kid. Unfortunately the movie was a 7/10 for me. Don’t get me wrong, Zach Snyder cast all the right actors/actresses for the roles. The costumes were stunning and amazing. There were some promising shots in the film that were god like...

    For example the red skies were amazing, kinda gives a preview of the world DS and SW live in. Loved it. The ending shot of Batman with his batchopter was also one of my favorite shots. Got me pumped for a solo Bat film!

    Now I managed to talk to a guy who did some of the visual effects for the film, basically for those who don’t know about “Mustache Gate”, Henry Cavill had a mustache throughout the filming process. He was in Mission Impossible and they said he wasn’t allowed to shave it. So they had to reshoot a good chunk of the movie when Whedon came aboard. The lower part of Cavills face was pure CGI. The first half of the film is Snyder and the second half is pure Whedon (minus the Superman ending and post credit scenes).

    My problem with this film is that it really needed an extra hour just to flow better. I actually think “Suicide Squad” was a better film.. Yes JL was better than BVS but the problem is that the entire plot fell flat, I didn’t feel like there was really any real danger. They are literally in a remote part of Russia, to me they should’ve had SW take over Gotham, should’ve showed Parademons killing innocent bystanders. They needed to show that the end of the world threat was real.

    I would’ve rather they waited till say Feb-March 2018 just to perfect the CGI and to add an extra hour to the movie. I would’ve gladly waited.

    Instead we got a rushed movie with some really crappy CGI.
    The whole movie just felt off. We deserve so much better.

    Another thing that sucked for me is that the team pretty much couldn’t even handle SW, Superman shows up and kicked his ass with ease. I was expecting way more. Once again Batman became a bystander to a threat he couldn’t even remotely handle. This is one reason why cutting Deathstroke out of the film sucked. Seeing Batman take on Deathstroke would’ve been a great little side story for Batman. How can they go from the warehouse scene to this?

    So I blame the writing, the directorial change, CGI deadline and cutting out the eight leaked deleted scenes.

    We only get on DC movie next year and that’s next December (Aquaman). So much for DC’s place to release 2-3 films a year. Ben Affleck is always rumored to leave.


    Now some major spoilers about that one post credit scene...

    Deathstroke and Lex talk about forming a legion of doom team!
    Gotta say that Deathstroke costume was insanely badass.
    One of the highlights of the film sadly. It’s looking like the legion of doom will be in Suicide Squad 2 possibly or maybe that will be the plot of the Deathstroke solo film? I doubt they will include that for the plot of a JL2. Also wonder if they hope to add Shazam or GL to the team. Possibly both.

    I am more excited for the legion of doom than a justice league 2.

    Can anyone else picture Matthew Mcconaughey for Reverse Flash?! Hyped![\spoiler]

    Do you know whether there will be an alternate or extended cut of JL?
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    edited November 2017 Posts: 1,003
    Justice League review
    Some minor spoilers!

    Well where to begin..
    I have been waiting for a JL live action film since I was a kid. Unfortunately the movie was a 7/10 for me. Don’t get me wrong, Zach Snyder cast all the right actors/actresses for the roles. The costumes were stunning and amazing. There were some promising shots in the film that were god like...

    For example the red skies were amazing, kinda gives a preview of the world DS and SW live in. Loved it. The ending shot of Batman with his batchopter was also one of my favorite shots. Got me pumped for a solo Bat film!

    Now I managed to talk to a guy who did some of the visual effects for the film, basically for those who don’t know about “Mustache Gate”, Henry Cavill had a mustache throughout the filming process. He was in Mission Impossible and they said he wasn’t allowed to shave it. So they had to reshoot a good chunk of the movie when Whedon came aboard. The lower part of Cavills face was pure CGI. The first half of the film is Snyder and the second half is pure Whedon (minus the Superman ending and post credit scenes).

    My problem with this film is that it really needed an extra hour just to flow better. I actually think “Suicide Squad” was a better film.. Yes JL was better than BVS but the problem is that the entire plot fell flat, I didn’t feel like there was really any real danger. They are literally in a remote part of Russia, to me they should’ve had SW take over Gotham, should’ve showed Parademons killing innocent bystanders. They needed to show that the end of the world threat was real.

    I would’ve rather they waited till say Feb-March 2018 just to perfect the CGI and to add an extra hour to the movie. I would’ve gladly waited.

    Instead we got a rushed movie with some really crappy CGI.
    The whole movie just felt off. We deserve so much better.

    Another thing that sucked for me is that the team pretty much couldn’t even handle SW, Superman shows up and kicked his ass with ease. I was expecting way more. Once again Batman became a bystander to a threat he couldn’t even remotely handle. This is one reason why cutting Deathstroke out of the film sucked. Seeing Batman take on Deathstroke would’ve been a great little side story for Batman. How can they go from the warehouse scene to this?

    So I blame the writing, the directorial change, CGI deadline and cutting out the eight leaked deleted scenes.

    We only get on DC movie next year and that’s next December (Aquaman). So much for DC’s place to release 2-3 films a year. Ben Affleck is always rumored to leave.


    Now some major spoilers about that one post credit scene...

    Deathstroke and Lex talk about forming a legion of doom team!
    Gotta say that Deathstroke costume was insanely badass.
    One of the highlights of the film sadly. It’s looking like the legion of doom will be in Suicide Squad 2 possibly or maybe that will be the plot of the Deathstroke solo film? I doubt they will include that for the plot of a JL2. Also wonder if they hope to add Shazam or GL to the team. Possibly both.

    I am more excited for the legion of doom than a justice league 2.

    Can anyone else picture Matthew Mcconaughey for Reverse Flash?! Hyped![\spoiler]

    Do you know whether there will be an alternate or extended cut of JL?

    According to the guy I talked to, there will be deleted scenes but no extended cut.. He said they are currently still working on the VFX for the deleted scenes and perfecting them so expect the VFX in the deleted scenes to look better than the VFX in the film.. Sad.

  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited November 2017 Posts: 25,246
    Justice League review
    Some minor spoilers!

    Well where to begin..
    I have been waiting for a JL live action film since I was a kid. Unfortunately the movie was a 7/10 for me. Don’t get me wrong, Zach Snyder cast all the right actors/actresses for the roles. The costumes were stunning and amazing. There were some promising shots in the film that were god like...

    For example the red skies were amazing, kinda gives a preview of the world DS and SW live in. Loved it. The ending shot of Batman with his batchopter was also one of my favorite shots. Got me pumped for a solo Bat film!

    Now I managed to talk to a guy who did some of the visual effects for the film, basically for those who don’t know about “Mustache Gate”, Henry Cavill had a mustache throughout the filming process. He was in Mission Impossible and they said he wasn’t allowed to shave it. So they had to reshoot a good chunk of the movie when Whedon came aboard. The lower part of Cavills face was pure CGI. The first half of the film is Snyder and the second half is pure Whedon (minus the Superman ending and post credit scenes).

    My problem with this film is that it really needed an extra hour just to flow better. I actually think “Suicide Squad” was a better film.. Yes JL was better than BVS but the problem is that the entire plot fell flat, I didn’t feel like there was really any real danger. They are literally in a remote part of Russia, to me they should’ve had SW take over Gotham, should’ve showed Parademons killing innocent bystanders. They needed to show that the end of the world threat was real.

    I would’ve rather they waited till say Feb-March 2018 just to perfect the CGI and to add an extra hour to the movie. I would’ve gladly waited.

    Instead we got a rushed movie with some really crappy CGI.
    The whole movie just felt off. We deserve so much better.

    Another thing that sucked for me is that the team pretty much couldn’t even handle SW, Superman shows up and kicked his ass with ease. I was expecting way more. Once again Batman became a bystander to a threat he couldn’t even remotely handle. This is one reason why cutting Deathstroke out of the film sucked. Seeing Batman take on Deathstroke would’ve been a great little side story for Batman. How can they go from the warehouse scene to this?

    So I blame the writing, the directorial change, CGI deadline and cutting out the eight leaked deleted scenes.

    We only get on DC movie next year and that’s next December (Aquaman). So much for DC’s place to release 2-3 films a year. Ben Affleck is always rumored to leave.


    Now some major spoilers about that one post credit scene...

    Deathstroke and Lex talk about forming a legion of doom team!
    Gotta say that Deathstroke costume was insanely badass.
    One of the highlights of the film sadly. It’s looking like the legion of doom will be in Suicide Squad 2 possibly or maybe that will be the plot of the Deathstroke solo film? I doubt they will include that for the plot of a JL2. Also wonder if they hope to add Shazam or GL to the team. Possibly both.

    I am more excited for the legion of doom than a justice league 2.

    Can anyone else picture Matthew Mcconaughey for Reverse Flash?! Hyped![\spoiler]

    Do you know whether there will be an alternate or extended cut of JL?

    According to the guy I talked to, there will be deleted scenes but no extended cut.. He said they are currently still working on the VFX for the deleted scenes and perfecting them so expect the VFX in the deleted scenes to look better than the VFX in the film.. Sad.

    That is a shame and more of a shame that we won't see a Snyder Version of the film, from my personal point of view I wanted to see Snyders vision.
  • edited November 2017 Posts: 676
    Other studios don't seem to remember that Marvel creating a connected "universe" was a tricky proposition that could have fallen completely flat. The fact that it worked is down to careful planning, some luck, some alchemy, and maybe the most overlooked factor: never taking the success of any one movie for granted.

    Oh well. At least we have Cyborg and Captain Boomerang movies to look forward to from DC.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,223
    Justice League review
    Some minor spoilers!

    Well where to begin..
    I have been waiting for a JL live action film since I was a kid. Unfortunately the movie was a 7/10 for me. Don’t get me wrong, Zach Snyder cast all the right actors/actresses for the roles. The costumes were stunning and amazing. There were some promising shots in the film that were god like...

    For example the red skies were amazing, kinda gives a preview of the world DS and SW live in. Loved it. The ending shot of Batman with his batchopter was also one of my favorite shots. Got me pumped for a solo Bat film!

    Now I managed to talk to a guy who did some of the visual effects for the film, basically for those who don’t know about “Mustache Gate”, Henry Cavill had a mustache throughout the filming process. He was in Mission Impossible and they said he wasn’t allowed to shave it. So they had to reshoot a good chunk of the movie when Whedon came aboard. The lower part of Cavills face was pure CGI. The first half of the film is Snyder and the second half is pure Whedon (minus the Superman ending and post credit scenes).

    My problem with this film is that it really needed an extra hour just to flow better. I actually think “Suicide Squad” was a better film.. Yes JL was better than BVS but the problem is that the entire plot fell flat, I didn’t feel like there was really any real danger. They are literally in a remote part of Russia, to me they should’ve had SW take over Gotham, should’ve showed Parademons killing innocent bystanders. They needed to show that the end of the world threat was real.

    I would’ve rather they waited till say Feb-March 2018 just to perfect the CGI and to add an extra hour to the movie. I would’ve gladly waited.

    Instead we got a rushed movie with some really crappy CGI.
    The whole movie just felt off. We deserve so much better.

    Another thing that sucked for me is that the team pretty much couldn’t even handle SW, Superman shows up and kicked his ass with ease. I was expecting way more. Once again Batman became a bystander to a threat he couldn’t even remotely handle. This is one reason why cutting Deathstroke out of the film sucked. Seeing Batman take on Deathstroke would’ve been a great little side story for Batman. How can they go from the warehouse scene to this?

    So I blame the writing, the directorial change, CGI deadline and cutting out the eight leaked deleted scenes.

    We only get on DC movie next year and that’s next December (Aquaman). So much for DC’s place to release 2-3 films a year. Ben Affleck is always rumored to leave.


    Now some major spoilers about that one post credit scene...

    Deathstroke and Lex talk about forming a legion of doom team!
    Gotta say that Deathstroke costume was insanely badass.
    One of the highlights of the film sadly. It’s looking like the legion of doom will be in Suicide Squad 2 possibly or maybe that will be the plot of the Deathstroke solo film? I doubt they will include that for the plot of a JL2. Also wonder if they hope to add Shazam or GL to the team. Possibly both.

    I am more excited for the legion of doom than a justice league 2.

    Can anyone else picture Matthew Mcconaughey for Reverse Flash?! Hyped![\spoiler]

    Do you know whether there will be an alternate or extended cut of JL?

    According to the guy I talked to, there will be deleted scenes but no extended cut.. He said they are currently still working on the VFX for the deleted scenes and perfecting them so expect the VFX in the deleted scenes to look better than the VFX in the film.. Sad.

    That is a shame and more of a shame that we won't see a Snyder Version of the film, from my personal point of view I wanted to see Snyders vision.

    It is unfortunate. For every good thing Whedon contributed to the film, he also contributed something pretty poor.

    After seeing the deleted scenes list from Snyder's film i.e. the stuff that the studio/Whedon cut, I would have probably preferred if they had just saw it through with him. But unfortunately, once Snyder left and a huge chunk of his work was left behind, it never received the proper post. It's very unfinished, and it would cost WB more money to release it.
  • edited November 2017 Posts: 6,844
    Snyder could perhaps one day release an extended cut with some of his scenes restored and without some of Whedon's material but with the material Whedon filmed in place of vital scenes Snyder hadn't gotten around to filming yet. That's really the best anyone could hope for from a Snyder "Director's Cut."
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