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James Bond Movie Timeline - Help to create the ULTIMATE ONE!

SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
edited November 2012 in Bond Movies Posts: 578
I made one this year. If you don't agree, feel free to create your own. PLEASE create your own and help me fix the ultimate one!

1. Casino Royale Pre-Credit Sequence
1.5. GoldenEye (1995)
2. Casino Royale (2006) or Casino Royale Climax! (1954)
3. Quantum of Solace (2008)
4. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
5. The World is not Enough (1999)
6. Die Another Day (2002)
7. Skyfall (2012)
8. Goldfinger (1964)
9. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
10. Moonraker (1979)
11. Live and Let Die (1973)
12. The Man With The Golden Gun (1974)
13. Dr No (1962)
14. From Russia With Love (1963)
15. Thunderball (1965) or Never Say Never Again (1983)
16. You Only Live Twice (1967)
17. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
18. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
19. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
20. Octopussy (1983)
21. A View To A Kill (1985)
22. The Living Daylights (1987)
23. Licence to Kill (1989)
24. Casino Royale (1967)

Comments

  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    Nice thread man! I like it!

    Beginnings
    1. Casino Royale- it is Bond's first real mission!
    2. Quantum of Solace- the sequal to CR, so it must follow!

    SPECTRE
    3. Dr. No
    4. From Russia with Love- must follow DN because of all the references to it
    5. Thunderball
    6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service- placing it here fixes the discontinuity with Bond and Blofeld's meeting
    7. You Only Live Twice
    8. Diamonds Are Forever- for the PTS, Bond stayed around in Japan after YOLT to track down Blofeld; makes DAF seem more fitting in this way, since the way we got it didn't really focus on the revenge element too much

    Cold War relations
    9. For Your Eyes Only- for the PTS, Bond finishes off Blofeld for good
    10. The Spy Who Loved Me- Karl Stromberg heard of the recent ATAC incident between Britain and Russia, and decided to put his submarine theft plan into effect following this, since tensions between the UK and USSR would still be high
    11. Octopussy
    12. The Living Daylights
    13. A View to a Kill

    Stand-Alones
    14. Goldfinger
    15. Live and Let Die
    16. The Man with the Golden Gun- follows up with the J.W. Pepper continuity
    17. Moonraker
    18. License to Kill

    Post-Cold War
    19. GoldenEye
    20. Tomorrow Never Dies
    21. The World is not Enough
    22. Die Another Day
  • BondBond
    edited November 2012 Posts: 503
    Good idea for a thread indeed... my take:

    Universe 1: Classic Origin Bond
    Dr. No
    From Russia With Love
    Thunderball
    Goldfinger
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service

    Universe 2: Hippie Bond
    You Only Live Twice
    Live and Let Die
    The Man with the Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Moonraker
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy

    Universe 3: Postmodern Origin Bond
    Casino Royale
    Quantum of Solace
    License to Kill
    The Living Daylights
    GoldenEye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World Is Not Enough
    Skyfall

    Universe 4: Clown Bond
    Diamonds Are Forever
    A View to a Kill
    Die Another Day
  • battleshipgreygtbattleshipgreygt
    edited November 2012 Posts: 1,220
    Classic Timeline
    Dr. No
    From Russia with Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    You Only Live Twice
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Diamonds Are Forever
    For Your Eyes Only
    Live and Let Die
    The Man with the Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Moonraker
    Octopussy
    A View to a Kill
    The Living Daylights
    License to Kill


    Modern Era
    GoldenEye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World is not Enough
    Die Another Day

    Reboot
    Casino Royale
    Quantum of Solace
    *significant time gap*
    Skyfall
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    edited November 2012 Posts: 578
    NEW IMPROVED TIMELINE

    1. Casino Royale OR Casino Roayle Climax!
    2. Quantum of Solace
    3. Goldfinger
    4. Moonraker
    5. Live and Let Die
    6. The Man With The Golden Gun
    7. Dr No
    8. From Russia With Love
    9. Thunderball OR Never Say Never Again
    10. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    11. You Only Live Twice
    12. Diamonds Are Forever
    13. For Your Eyes Only
    14. The Spy Who Loved Me
    15. Octopussy
    16. A View To A Kill
    17. The Living Daylights
    18. Die Another Day
    19. GoldenEye
    20. Tomorrow Never Dies
    21. The World Is Not Enough
    22. Licence to Kill
    23. Skyfall
    24. David Niven Casino Royale
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,356
    This thread covers the same kind of topic:

    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/194/your-ultimate-bond-timeline
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    Posts: 578
    Samuel001 wrote:
    This thread covers the same kind of topic:

    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/194/your-ultimate-bond-timeline

    Only differance is; THESE ARE THE ACTUAL MOVIES? WAS CONNERY IN MOONRAKER? NO!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    Calm down @SuperheroSith, no need to get your knickers in a twist.

    Now then,

    I've always wondered what the films had been like, if it followed Bond's age;

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Dr No
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    Live and Let Die
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    GoldenEye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    The World Is Not Enough
    The Living Daylights
    Licence To Kill
    Moonraker
    You Only Live Twice
    Die Another Day
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy
    Diamonds Are Forever
    A View To A Kill

    No wonder Blofeld doesn’t recognize Bond in OHMSS. And by the time YOLT comes around, Blofeld has forgotten about poor 007. Bond has not, however. Fast forward to DAF, and Bond feels sorry for Blofeld. He's getting rather fond of him, at this point.


  • LuciferMLuciferM
    edited January 2013 Posts: 1
    Guys, the timeline has been so ravaged by these last 3 films that the timeline makes zero sense whatsoever now.

    Obviously there's the OHMSS/You Only Live Twice Blofeld mistake, but switch the films around and it's fine.

    In Dr No Felix Lighter introduces himself to Bond, so the introduction between them in Casino Royale shouldn't exist.

    In Casino Royale, Judi Dench says 'Christ, I miss the Cold War', which obviously throws everything off.

    In Skyfall, Moneypenny and Bond meet for the first time - Moneypenny's already in Dr No. Also Moneypenny says in Dr No "I've never been to Istanbul".

    In Skyfall, Bond is given a Walther PPK, but at the beginning of Dr No M states that Bond's weapon of choice is a Beretta. It's only then he's given the Walther.

    In Skyfall, the DB5 turns up in Bond's garage, but in Goldfinger Bond says to Q 'What about my Bentley? It's never let me down' and it's only then he's given the DB5.

    In Skyfall, Bond and Q meet for the first time, but they meet for the first time in Dr No.

    So there is clear evidence that Skyfall takes place before Dr No but also clear evidence that it takes place after Goldeneye (the last time we see the DB5).

    Just goes to show that they couldn't care less about staying true to the timeline and anything Barbara Broccoli says to the contrary is a load of rubbish. You'd have thought she'd like to pay a bit more respect to her father's fine work.

    The continuity with Judi Dench playing M with him pre-00 status I couldn't care less about. All it is is an actor. The character existed back then and existed now.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    Craigs movies doesen't fit in the old timeline. It is nothing we can do about it, just because Craigs movies were never intended to do so. It is a new carachter with new people around him who has never even heard of " SPECTRE ", " Blofeld " or " Tracy ".
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    As @samuel said, this could be essentially a repeat of what has been discussed before on another thread before this, but all this damn re-boot crap, and I never was one for it, that started with Royale in 2006, which some will insist, rendered the Bond releases before it, as immaterial or non existent. Although some things are best left in the past, but even so, a re-boot was really unnecessary some will insist. Everyone will have their own idea of what to include or list from Dr No up to the last relevant point, but while we can't change anything, there are indeed plenty of inconsistencies abound in the years of Bond from where it all started in '62 and going on into subsequent decades, as doubtless mentioned
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    edited January 2013 Posts: 578
    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    As @Samuel001 said, this could be essentially a repeat of what has been discussed before on another thread before this.

    That is Your Dream Bond Timeline, not a chronological timeline of real movies, @Baltimore_007.
  • BrickmotionBrickmotion
    Posts: 1
    James Bond Sr. Era
    1. Dr No (1962)
    2. From Russia With Love (1963)
    3. Goldfinger (1964)
    4. Thunderball (1965)
    5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969) - Between the main actions and Bond's wedding, some month pass and Bond Jr. gets born, wich is later given to Bond's brother because Bond can't care about him alone while being 007
    6. You Only Live Twice (1967)
    7. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
    8. Live and Let Die (1973)
    9. The Man With The Golden Gun (1974)
    10. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
    11. Moonraker (1979)
    12. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
    13. Octopussy (1983)
    14. A View To A Kill (1985)
    14 1/2. GoldenEye opening
    15. The Living Daylights (1987)
    16. Licence to Kill (1989)
    17. GoldenEye (1995)
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
    19. The World is not Enough (1999)

    James Bond Jr. Era
    The old Bond retires in 2005 after 45 years of active serving as 007 and his son, James Bond Jr. (portrayed by Craig) earns double-O status and takes the now empty position of 007
    2. Casino Royale (2006)
    3. Quantum of Solace (2008)
    7. Skyfall (2012)

    Bond's weird dream world Era
    4 1/2. Never Say Never Again (1983) - Bond dreams of his last mission but messes up some things he can't remember correctly
    19 1/4. Casino Royale Climax! (1954) - After his last mission, Bond stars to get some weird dreams of some casino
    19 1/2. Casino Royale (1967) - Bond has another weird dream of the casino
    19 3/4. Die Another Day (2002) - After having this dream, Bond thinks he definitly doesn't fit into this job anymore and retires in 2005
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    edited August 2013 Posts: 578
    Really like your James Bond jr idea, also keeps the awful TV series in this chronologically messed up series
  • chrisaldermanchrisalderman London
    Posts: 4
    i'm one of those people who believe in the codename theory (don't shoot!). i just find it more reasonable than a sliding timescale theory. i have a lot of little theories about how the timeline works.

    1930's
    The original James Bond (David Niven) is active. I see Casino Royale as a kind of weird dream foreshadowing certain events. He falls in love and has a child named Andrew Bond.
    Before 1953
    It is now common practice for agents to take on false names, Sean Connery's character becomes James Bond 007 (he's been working for MI6 for at least 10 years as stated in Dr No).
    1960's
    Dr No
    Major Boothroyd takes over as armourer/quartermaster.
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    You Only Live Twice
    Blofeld experiments with plastic surgery.
    Several MI6 agents are trained at once to see who the best candidate is for James Bond 007, Lazenby and Moore are completing there training at this point. Lazenby is selected.
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Due to grief Lazenby resigns. Connery who has remained in Asia for the last 4 years is sent to find Blofeld again.
    1970's
    Diamonds Are Forever
    I like to think that Connery's Bond got into to trouble in a certain Watergate Hotel in 1972 and was no longer suitable for being James Bond. Moore takes up the mantle.
    Live And Let Die
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Moonraker
    1980's
    On the 12th anniversary of Tracy Bond's death, Moore visits the grave to pay his respects to his colleague's wife.
    For Your Eyes Only
    Admiral Hargreaves replaces Sir Miles Messervy as 'M'.
    Octopussy
    A View To A Kill
    By this point Dalton's and Brosnan's characters are in the training to be 007. I like to believe that Moore's Bond was put out of action after suffering injuries in Chernobyl, 1986.
    By now Brosnan has been chosen to be Bond.
    It is also now when a new 'Miss Moneypenny' (also a codename) is introduced.
    Goldeneye (Pre-title sequence)
    Brosnan is not considered ready as he let 006 die on a mission. Dalton is brought in to replace him. He is sent to Gibraltar for a final training excercise.
    The Living Daylights
    Licence To Kill
    1990's
    Over the next few years a new Moneypenny is employed, Brosnan finally takes over again and Olivia Mansfield replaces Admiral Hargreaves becoming the first female M.
    Goldeneye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Upon planning for his retirement, Q takes on an understudy known as R.
    The World Is Not Enough
    Major Boothroyd retires and R becomes Q.
    2000's
    Die Another Day (this takes place either completely before or after 911)
    Nightfire
    Everything Or Nothing
    Brosnan's Bond retires and the idea of 'Moneypenny' and 'Q' are scrapped although Q-Branch remains. Craig's Bond's name is actually James Bond. He is the grandson of the original and son of Andrew Bond. He takes over from Brosnan.
    Casino Royale (2006-2007)
    Quantum Of Solace (2007-2008)
    2010's
    Blood Stone
    The idea of Q and Moneypenny is re-introduced, both with new replacements.
    Skyfall
    Olivia Mansfield dies and Gareth Mallory becomes the new M.

    I think that's all the major points. If anyone can see any faults in this i'd be happy to attempt to reconcile them. I understand that the codename theory isn't very popular at all but I think it could work. I also believe that 'Bill Tanner' and 'Felix Leiter' are codenames along with 'Eve Moneypenny', 'M' & 'Q'. I also have a theory on a certain 'Ralph Silver'.

  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    Sorry @chrisalderman but anyone who believes in the whole "codename" crap needs serious help
  • chrisaldermanchrisalderman London
    Posts: 4
    @WillyGalore i understand that it's a very hated theory but people believe in the 'sliding timescale' theory and i dont think it's anymore absurd than that. i think that whichever idea you choose you'll have to take it with a pinch of salt.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,359
    But Brosnan's M is Barbara Mawdsley. Craig's M is Olivia Mansfield. As noted in scripts for GoldenEye and Skyfall.
  • chrisaldermanchrisalderman London
    Posts: 4
    @Murdock
    one could argue that they're completely different characters coincidentally both played by Dame Judi however as there's no onscreen evidence that she plays Mawdsley in Goldeneye i'm going to assume that she plays the same character from then until Skyfall, Olivia Mansfield.
  • Aziz_FekkeshAziz_Fekkesh Royale-les-Eaux
    Posts: 403
    Bond is a timelord, a walking paradox, and is thus able to transcend the normal laws of time and space. Otherwise, the timeline is absolutely convoluted beyond reason.
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    Posts: 578
    I personally believe that the Craig films don't count, as they are reboots. I also believe that this is as confusing as the Zelda Timeline. AVGN should do a chronologically confused on this.
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,985
    I have created my dream timeline but this one is your chronological timeline? With the movies that the already made?
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    Posts: 1,596
    What makes the most sense to me (ignoring some things of course, this is James Bond we're talking about)

    CR
    QOS

    Dr No - DAD

    Skyfall.
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    Posts: 578
    fjdinardo wrote:
    I have created my dream timeline but this one is your chronological timeline? With the movies that the already made?

    Yes
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited January 2014 Posts: 12,837
    I've decided that there are three seperate timelines, instead of two.

    DN to AVTAK is the original timeline, except DAF goes before OHMSS and FYEO goes before LALD. I say this because you can more or less believe that it's the same guy, he ages as time goes on.

    Then there's a separate timeline, TLD to DAD, which I like to think goes like this.

    Bond starts his career and eventually OHMSS happens. Then a few years later we have the Goldeneye PTS. Some officials are angry about the "death" of 006 so they order M to send the 00's on a training mission to Gilbatar, this is the beginning of The Living Daylights. Not long after that there's Licence To Kill. After LTK Bond starts drinking more and is struggling at work. M gives him one last chance, sends him to Japan, he meets Tiger, Blofeld is alive, etc. So that's YOLT. While in Russia, Bond finds his identity and he also meets Zukofsky and gives him a limp. Then he's captured, brainwashed, etc. TMWTGG begins, followed by Colonel Sun. After this the cold war ends and there are are a few more adventures, one of them involving Paris Carver. But after the assassination attempt and being kidnapped, Robert Brown's M has been feeling more and more stressed. In 1995 he retires and Judi Dench takes over. She looks over what's happened over the last few years and is shocked that Bond was even allowed his job back after LTK, so she has him evaluated. Goldeneye continues.

    The third timeline is the Craig era so far.
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    Posts: 578
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    DN to AVTAK is the original timeline, except DAF goes before OHMSS and FYEO goes before LALD. I say this because you can more or less believe that it's the same guy.

    Then there's a seperate timeline, TLD to DAD, which I like to think goes like this.

    Bond starts his career and eventually OHMSS happens. Then a few years later we have the Goldeneye PTS. Some officials are angry about the "death" of 006 so they order M to send the 00's on a training mission to Gilbatar, this is the beginning of The Living Daylights. Not long after that there's Licence To Kill. After LTK Bond starts drinking more and is struggling at work. M gives him one last chance, sends him to Japan, he meets Tiger, Blofeld is alive, etc. So that's YOLT. While in Russia, Bond finds his identity and he also meets Zukofsky and gives him a limp. Then he's captured, brainwashed, etc. TMWTGG begins, followed by Colonel Sun. After this the cold war ends and there are are a few more adventures, one of them involving Paris Carver. But after the assassination attempt and being kidnapped, Robert Brown's M has been feeling more and more stressed. In 1995 he retires and Judi Dench takes over. She looks over what's happened over the last few years and is shocked that Bond was even allowed his job back after LTK, so she has him evaluated. Goldeneye continues.

    The third timeline is the Craig era so far.

    I like the separate timeline idea.
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    Posts: 2,015
    The Wold Newton James Bond timeline :

    http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Bond.htm
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    Posts: 578
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote:
    The Wold Newton James Bond timeline :

    http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Bond.htm

    That is the timeline for the books, not the films
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    I've decided that there are three seperate timelines, instead of two.

    DN to AVTAK is the original timeline, except DAF goes before OHMSS and FYEO goes before LALD. I say this because you can more or less believe that it's the same guy, he ages as time goes on.

    Then there's a separate timeline, TLD to DAD, which I like to think goes like this.

    Bond starts his career and eventually OHMSS happens. Then a few years later we have the Goldeneye PTS. Some officials are angry about the "death" of 006 so they order M to send the 00's on a training mission to Gilbatar, this is the beginning of The Living Daylights. Not long after that there's Licence To Kill. After LTK Bond starts drinking more and is struggling at work. M gives him one last chance, sends him to Japan, he meets Tiger, Blofeld is alive, etc. So that's YOLT. While in Russia, Bond finds his identity and he also meets Zukofsky and gives him a limp. Then he's captured, brainwashed, etc. TMWTGG begins, followed by Colonel Sun. After this the cold war ends and there are are a few more adventures, one of them involving Paris Carver. But after the assassination attempt and being kidnapped, Robert Brown's M has been feeling more and more stressed. In 1995 he retires and Judi Dench takes over. She looks over what's happened over the last few years and is shocked that Bond was even allowed his job back after LTK, so she has him evaluated. Goldeneye continues.

    The third timeline is the Craig era so far.

    That is very neat! @thelivingroyale

    I'd like to think that in these timelines, the Bonds experiences the books too (although in a slightly updated version depending on which actor it is) but that - as you say it is three timelines!
  • TortolianTortolian
    Posts: 5
    SuperheroSith wrote: »
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote:
    The Wold Newton James Bond timeline :

    http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Bond.htm

    That is the timeline for the books, not the films

    Is there a timeline for books and movies? I read

    casino royale (the first book) then watched casino royale(the movie) then read
    quantum of solace (the short story) then watch quantum of solace the movie, where do I go

    next? What is the next story either book or movie???

  • salamesalame
    edited February 2018 Posts: 7
    Tortolian wrote: »
    SuperheroSith wrote: »
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote:
    The Wold Newton James Bond timeline :

    http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Bond.htm

    That is the timeline for the books, not the films

    Is there a timeline for books and movies? I read

    casino royale (the first book) then watched casino royale(the movie) then read
    quantum of solace (the short story) then watch quantum of solace the movie, where do I go

    next? What is the next story either book or movie???

    Great question. I believe the next should be live and let die?
    00Beast wrote: »
    Nice thread man! I like it!

    Beginnings
    1. Casino Royale- it is Bond's first real mission!
    2. Quantum of Solace- the sequal to CR, so it must follow!

    SPECTRE
    3. Dr. No
    4. From Russia with Love- must follow DN because of all the references to it
    5. Thunderball
    6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service- placing it here fixes the discontinuity with Bond and Blofeld's meeting
    7. You Only Live Twice
    8. Diamonds Are Forever- for the PTS, Bond stayed around in Japan after YOLT to track down Blofeld; makes DAF seem more fitting in this way, since the way we got it didn't really focus on the revenge element too much

    Cold War relations
    9. For Your Eyes Only- for the PTS, Bond finishes off Blofeld for good
    10. The Spy Who Loved Me- Karl Stromberg heard of the recent ATAC incident between Britain and Russia, and decided to put his submarine theft plan into effect following this, since tensions between the UK and USSR would still be high
    11. Octopussy
    12. The Living Daylights
    13. A View to a Kill

    Stand-Alones
    14. Goldfinger
    15. Live and Let Die
    16. The Man with the Golden Gun- follows up with the J.W. Pepper continuity
    17. Moonraker
    18. License to Kill

    Post-Cold War
    19. GoldenEye
    20. Tomorrow Never Dies
    21. The World is not Enough
    22. Die Another Day

    I think this timiline makes more sense
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