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Trance is probably the most illuminating film in Boyle's oeuvre in discovering how he might tackle a Bond film. It was also written by Hodge.
This will be the most "British" film Boyle has directed since the Olympics opening ceremony. That was really a celebration of a nation in a proud and sincere way. It was able to embrace British culture with more insular nods to the NHS and the Windrush generation.
Nationalism has changed greatly over the last few years. I don't think you can make a ceremony like 2012 in this country anymore. I suspect that Boyle (who is outwardly political and has even joked in the past about making a Jeremy Corbyn film) will want to explore a post-Brexit Bond film.
After Brexit/Trump, the whole Edward Snowden angle that SP took seems quant. The Bond villain has become a reality. I can only imagine what Boyle and Hodge are cooking up, but I think Danny's liberal values will shine through int he project. I'm just hoping for a great film.
I'm an American with zero knowledge of the TV series, and as some random action movie, I found it quite enjoyable. I'm guessing it's much worse compared to its original source material.
Boyle will always have an indie sensibility, so I think his idea will be quite straight forward and cheap to film. This is about closing the book on Craig's Bond, so it's more about the emotional weight and thematic drama than explosions and car chases. I expect a more toned down film than the bloated Mendes entries. Bond 25 will be a lean two hours long.
The Bond villain has become a reaility... based on Trump and Brexit? I hope you are joking.
Bond films are not films to push a political viewpoint, I hope it stays like that.
Yes I think so.
Babs and MGW famously have opposing political views, so I doubt Boyle's film will be political. Nor do I think that it will be mostly set in the UK--been there, done that.
Still, there is some offbeat Fleming material left (THR) that would undoubtedly be read as a commentary on current events...
The last thing Bond needs is a story he sleepwalks through. Give us some tension and sense of danger.
But action scenes and the like can be attained much cheaper with a bit of creativity than they were in either of the last two. Danny Boyle would incorporate action much better than Mendes did, and make it more flowing instead of disjointed. Mendes action scenes while suitably big in scope, never really delivered anything special. He was so nervous about delivering on what we expected, he forgot to give us something we didn't expect also, IMO.
--- I agree. My point was more that it has to be more 'explosive' than a DN. Something in the CR/SF vein at least.
Oh yes, Boyle is an overt progressive by his own admission.
Mendes had a very late '70s view of Bond, perhaps influenced by his boyhood watching LALD, etc. By which I mean: a PTS with a cannot-be-topped action scene.
The difference is that in SF he had control of his story, which was the impending death of M. The action was largely incidental, but it worked because of the core, and especially because of the performances. A shoot-out in Parliament, or for that matter, sliding down the Tube, does not sound that exciting for Bond, but it is because of the story around it, and because the stakes are high.
But by SP Mendes had lost control of the story and it felt like a bunch of disconnected set pieces, particularly the ending action.
The fact that Boyle has something to say is positive, and hopefully his story will be compelling enough to similarly hook the viewer, with the action flowing from that.
I'm perhaps one of the few who finds the SF courtroom shootout very tense and well done. Simple, but full of neat touches which give insights into all of the main and supporting characters. That's what I hope to see in B25.
Talking of which, did you see the gritty cinematic spin-off from the popular TV series called Sweeney! (1977) @LeonardPine? I saw this in the cinema at the time when it was an X-certificate. There was sequel too, Sweeney 2 (1978) which was a AA.
Yeah I'm not sure how much input Hodge had on the Sweeney screenplay. I did enjoy Trance though.
I love the 2 Sweeney films. John Thaw is just dynamite in them. I love the chase through London in the first one when an assassin is trying to kill Regan and a witness.
The question I have and I plan on posting it in the Bond 25 thread is what kind of title should Craig have for his final outing as 007
So far he has had titles
Based on a Fleming novel (Casino Royale)
Based on a Fleming short story (quantum of solace)
Based on nothing at all (Skyfall)
Based on a Fleming Chapter title (Spectre)
So how should he end to be fair he could still do one more of each of those patterns
For novels we could have a repeate title or the two non Bond novels could be used (though in my opinion the only useable one from that is The Diamond Smugglers)
Short stories we obviously have The Property of a Lady Risico (which I want to be used simply as I am bored seeing it on so many fan arts and fan trailers) The Hildebrand Rarity and 007 In New York
Original titles well the skies the limit with that
Chapter titles is interesting as there are a bunch I feel that could be quite good From A Whisper of Love A Whisper of Hate to in a glass, very darkly all of Fleming’s books have at least one good title for a bond film
So which style should Craig’s last outing be?
I’d absolutely love something in the vein of DN. A proper mystery with a great villain. On a completely superfluous level I would really love to see a great lair, something the Production Designer can really go to town on. We haven’t had a truly memorable one for decades.
I also don’t really care what the title is, although I’d rather they surprise me than shoehorn in a Fleming. Skyfall did the job in that regard.
You and I both. Something haunting and ominous looking, while simultaneously practical and grand in scale (again going back to DN, I think of the chamber room Dent is in when he is given the spider).
Bang on. It’s a big part of my love of the early films and something they’ve not managed to repeat for some time. I think they worry it feels cliched, but it’s completely achievable. I thought what Gassner did with Bladerunner 2049 was very interesting. The room Leto’s character hangs out in felt very Ken Adam, but with a contemporary twist.
Me too. It was very early here. I remember being thrilled to see the title revealed. Then the car. Then the cast.
Then came the trailers, and by the looks of it, SP was going to be terrific. But...
For sure, SP isn't nearly as bad as it seems; it's just really bad by comparison to what many of us anticipated.
When you say Logan, to which Logan are you referring? ;)
This has been discussed until the cows come home.