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His hypothesis is that now is the time for eon to explode the Bond franchise and to have multiple Bonds running in tandem.
For instance ‘Young Bond’ on Netflix. ‘Period Bond’ on Amazon Prime . ‘Blockbuster’ Bond on the big screen. ‘The Moneypenny Diaries’ on the BBC. These may not be his exact examples but you get his drift .......
His point is that there can’t be enough Bond and there shhould be a Bond for every generation ......
PussyNoMore agrees completely. This tired old strategy of having one big ‘superhero’ blockbuster every two, now three, maybe four or even five years with a one size fits all 007 is played out and stifles creativity.
Maybe Boyle saw the limit of this (as did Tarantino when he made his pitch) and ultimately fell out with eon because they think they want to change but when the doctor arrives they run a mile.
The hate the media has because of the "sexist mysoginist poopist anti everything-ist" Bond grinds my gears.
I know we talk a lot about the ignorance of the media, but I hope it doesn't lead to rash decisions like ditching the movies. People are offended by everything, and what I don't get is that it's a work of fiction..why should it offend? Especially if they have a choice to watch or not.
Pitchfork nation is at it's worst.
I don't have disdain for Campbell. I just don't think he is God's gift to filmmaking. And you know what? Neither does anyone in the film industry.
Indeed. One of the odd misunderstandings of Bond is that he is sexist and mysoginist. With rare exceptions aside, he isn't at all.
A quick reminder, Robbie Maddison was one of the bikers in the SKYFALL PTS.
No one said he was. He's far from being a brilliant filmmaker overall but where his strength lies is in his film making when it comes to Bond whether you like it or not.
I read something earlier about how after CR in 2006 EON had actually hoped to get QoS out in 2007, which led to a rushed production schedule and the inevitable push back to 2008.
If they were looking at putting out films in consecutive years as recently as 2007, how is it a decade later we're looking at 4 to 5 year gaps as standard, and they still don't seem to be able to get their ducks lined up.
I see a lot of people defending EON on here but frankly the excuses are beginning to wear pretty thin.
Can you please re do that poster with a Fleming title and the current release date would love for that to be by New background
They wore thin a long time ago. The blind defence afforded to EoN is nonsense to me. This is an outfit that has serious skin in the industry, they've had enough rodeos to know better. The SP mess and now this whole Boyle fiasco is ameaturish considering EoN's near 60 years experience making these films. Certain contingencies and basic alignment of ducks...nothing. Meanwhile some people want to complain about how other franchises are "copying" Bond. Who cares! Bond aint doing shit right now and until we get a solid and engaging Bond film, its going to be the same old same old...there's a reason prior to Doyle's exit the topic of Bond was focused more on Bond 26 and who the next Bond should be than tge actual pending production of Bond 25.
All true, and it's the devote EON loyalists who pretend like all these catastrophees have nothing to do with EON, and they are just the repeated victims of circumstance. Even Craig's "wrist slash" comments weren't his fault, but the fault of the person who wrote them in an article. EON and Craig aren't accountable for any of their own actions, in some members view. Until we can actually address the problem, MI will continue to trounce Bond and Mr Cruise will be laughing all the way to the bank.
I'd take Campbell right now. Any one frankly.
Craig seems to be the problem. He won't accept having a journeyman director. He wants an 'auteur' that he feels is on a par with his own immense abilities, but then can't deal with the fact they want to do things their way.
It really feels like he's lost all sense of proportion and his place in the scheme of things. Without Bond he's nothing. He never should have been given the exec producer role and so much power. He is not best placed to know what's best for Bond or frankly even himself.
It all seems like a steaming mess right now. No one really in control. No direction or real vision. Casting around for ideas because the key players don't have any.
Sad.
There is a sweet spot where reasonable fan expectation and industry reality can co-exist.
4-5 years for an outgoing and resoundingly successful leading man ain’t hittin’ it.
The auteur who bends over backwards to accommodate his spoilt star and does everything the producer wants is not an auteur.
As you say who is going to want this poisoned chalice now any way?
Time for Craig to walk I think. There's just the stench of drift and failure now around the whole enterprise.
Best things Babs could do is show a bit of famous steel and sack him. I've grown a bit sick of his moaning and prickliness. He's like an ungrateful and vain child. When was the last time he did a proper day's work. He has the work rate of a sloth.
Spot on. It's not just a question of which director is capable and willing to take on Bond25, it's also a question of who, at this stage, is available. It could be quite a short list
Very true. He certainly doesn't present himself as a man who's happy having the best acting gig in the world. And if he requires to be pampered with a co-producer title and sayings in both the script and the casting department, then EON have put themselves in a difficult position.
I'm not going to hide it; my interest in Bond 25 went more than halfway out the window with the recent Boyle announcement. It might be for the better of course, but why go through so much trouble hiring him in the first place.
Exactly. If they wanted to take the risk with Boyle they needed to be willing to swallow a couple of his casting choices. I don't know anything about this Russian villain guy but Boyle's casting has rarely been anything less than fresh - something EON should welcome. CR stands out because with Craig and Green we got two relative unknown leads and it felt like a much needed breath of fresh air. Boyle has a knack for picking lesser known actors or complete newcomers and making them into stars. EON and Craig needed to trust him on that front.
Ditto I suppose Boyle needed to be willing to accept some suggestions on the script and action front.
Who knows though what the real issues were. May be it was just personalities in the end. Which is equally pathetic.
You wonder sometimes whether there are any real grown ups involved in these films any more. There certainly isn't any guiding vision of where they're going.
Thank you glad to see I am not the only one...
Look I am not an Eon apologist (waiting a year for Mendes was extremely dumb considering Spectre was what we got) however I am not going to vilify them or put hexes on them because they are human and make mistakes
Yes we all make mistakes. Like the dinner lady who makes lumpy custard. Oh well. There EON go again, stumbling through the production of another Bond film for the umpteenth time. They're only human.
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