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  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited February 2019 Posts: 9,511
    Guys, seriously, apart from dealing with all the melodrama some people give off, here are some quick facts than can easily be researched:

    Stone is shooting ZL2 for the next 8 to 10 weeks; Johnson is staring to shoot the Affleck film on Feb 19- Mar29.

    IF they are in B25 (BIG if), they won't be at any rehearsals in the near future.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    peter wrote: »
    Guys, seriously, apart from dealing with all the melodrama some people give off, here are some quick facts than can easily be research:

    Stone is shooting ZL2 for the next 8 to 10 weeks; Johnson is staring to shoot the Affleck film on Feb 19- Mar29.

    IF they are in B25 (BIG if), they won't be at any rehearsals in the near future.

    I hope people actually read this.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,710
    peter wrote: »
    Guys, seriously, apart from dealing with all the melodrama some people give off, here are some quick facts than can easily be research:

    Stone is shooting ZL2 for the next 8 to 10 weeks; Johnson is staring to shoot the Affleck film on Feb 19- Mar29.

    IF they are in B25 (BIG if), they won't be at any rehearsals in the near future.

    They're not...

    ...probably.

    So, no news today. No worries. They're probably at work down at Pinewood. Working in making our dreams come true. Good for us.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
    Posts: 1,680
    The only one that has a chance is Johnson maybe, even then its doubtful as far as title goes its likely going to be a statement on the character of craigs bond.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,511
    @Thunderfinger wrote something wonderful about GF, so that is what I am compelled to watch this evening. Goodnight to all and sundry....
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,860
    I loved Quantum of Solace and can’t wait to see you scream and cry when the next bond title is revealed to be from Fleming
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    Quantum of Solace is a great title.
  • MonsieurMerciMonsieurMerci France
    edited February 2019 Posts: 98
    Wave-Link now sounds like a 90's computer products
    Shatterhand ? Perfect for a Depeche Mode song title :)
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,924
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Any word on a title
    The title was confirmed a while ago: Wave-Link.
    Tag line.
    Nothing Wave-Links like Wave-Linkrity.
    Signalling the return of Felix Leiter.


  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Since both skyfall and spectre had their press announcements 4 days before filming began, I would be 80% sure that B25 will have its on Feb 28th.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,592
    FYI, the Reddit poster who tipped the Athens cultural center as a filming location has corrected his original post, claiming that negotiations happened mid-October, not during the summer as previously mentioned. This means that, theoretically, the location was conceived after Boyle's departure and is likely apart of the current script (still grain of salt news though).
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited February 2019 Posts: 12,480
    OK, so Daniel will be a presenter at the Oscars. That's nice.
    Link to ... us. ;)
  • 077077 ny
    Posts: 12
    Food for thought ... I re-watched Spectre last weekend and had this crazy thought. Mr. White is a smart man. He knew about Blofeld's Bond obsession. He knew about his own impending death. He knew Bond would come to find him first. He had all video cameras on him ready to record the interaction. He knew Blofeld's henchmen would show up soon after and, of course, go through his footage. Mr White revealing his daughter, her location, sending Bond after her and with him the entire Blofeld gang - IMO - on purpose, and planned. Mr White had a deeper mission. All along he had the plan to use Bond to bring down Blofeld, and place Madeleine on top of Spectre. But first Madeleine needs to bring down Bond. Bringing him down can mean making him inactive or ... kill him. Funny enough, a friend gave me a spinoff book from the 70s called the Golden Ghost and in it is a character called: Madam Spectra. So here we have another title idea. "Spectra"... and to make it even more interesting. Bond probably suspects something. He is smart enough to know Mr White would not make those rookie mistakes. He has also learned from his past experiences with women and doesn't trust anyone. He plays along to find out what the real mission is behind all of this.

    I would love a direction like this because this would explain the bad chemistry between bond and Madeleine as well as the quick development of their relationship.
  • dramaticscenesofQOSdramaticscenesofQOS
    Posts: 1,282
    @077

    Wow! Quite a good observation that nobody has mentioned this whole time!


    As long as Mr. White's plan works, his legacy and mission continue beyond his grave. Whether or not this is really the case, his character can retain lots of untapped value.

    It makes one grateful as a viewer that Marc Forster decided to cut out his originally-planned death scene from QoS at the end.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    Posts: 3,277
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    I have the perfect Bond 25 down. Seriously, EON, get in touch. I'm cheap.


    It's called.....

    "BLOFELD" or "THE TRIAL OF BLOFELD"

    The story is essentially a continuation of SP whilst melding together Fleming's OHMSS and YOLT novels.

    The Pre-titles:

    No James Bond sadly. I'm gonna take a page from the Nolan handbook and use the opening the film to really establish the villain and build him up as a threat. The film will open at the Royal Courts of Justice where Blofeld is on trial.

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    It's the last day and things have been building up to his inevitable sentencing. Blofeld is carried from his holding cell at Belmarsh in an armoured van. M makes sure that Blofeld is transported safely; they share a few barbs bethind his cell. Soon we are at his trial; all of the MI6 team are present and just before his sentence Blofeld is given a chance to speak. Here Waltz should give a fantastic speech in league with the material he got given when he played Landa in "Inglourious Basterds". Just then he gets sprung as Spectre turn up and shoot up the Court and lead him out of the Court.

    They throw him in the back of an armoured van and race down the strand on to Waterloo Bridge. The MI6 team and the local police pursue Blofeld. The person is charge of the pursuit is Moneypenny (Naomie Harris was a little wasted in SP - I want the kick-ass Moneypenny to return). Anyway Blofeld is able to cause Moneypenny to crash her car over the edge of Waterloo Bridge. The PTS ends with Blofeld escaping as M realises that he's lost Moneypenny and Blofeld is gone.

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    Cue Main-Title Sequence

    First Act:

    It should be established the reason why Blofeld was able to escape was due to him having a mole at the very centre of MI6. M has no one he can trust, his organisation is in tatters, the 00 Division is practically dead, Moneypenny is gone and his crowning accomplishment of capturing Blofeld has fallen apart. M is a wreck and he can't trust anyone. He's royally f**ked.

    Enter Bond: He's living in Jamaica and finding it hard to adjust to his new life away from MI6. He is still with Madeline and they are running a bar and living in a lovely house (I reckon they should have him stay in Fleming's Goldeneye estate for these bits).

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    He knows nothing aside from being a spy and the accidie and boredom that Fleming often talked about his taking hold and he's finding solace in drink. Rumours surround the island that he was once an infamous secret agent, but the locals laugh it off. How could the Englishman who runs that shitty bar be anything more than a pathetic alcoholic. It's putting pressure on him and Madeline but they are still strong.

    Soon Mallory comes and see Bond and tells him about his situation. Bond couldn't care less. However, what sparks Bond's fire is the news that Moneypenny was killed in the chase by Blofeld. 007 is shocked and wounded. M dosen't ask Bond to return, but instead says he needs someone to operate outside the system: To spy on the spies. Essentially, this film will the Bondian interpretation of "Tinker Tailor". If Bond can find the mole he can find Blofeld. Mallory plays on Bond's weaknesses; If Bond doesn't want to return he can at least come back for Moneypenny; after all she gave her life fighting for this.

    Bond tells Madeline that he has to do this and she accepts, however, she's coming with him. It's indicated at this point that Madeline has a personal secret she's keeping from Bond.

    Back in London, Bond realises that M lied to him. Moneypenny isn't dead, she's hard up in hospital but alive and conscious. M owns up to manipulating Bond to get him back as he needed his assistance desperately. I want to see a slightly more harder and machiavellian side to Mallory, after all, he's the head of a spy agency, he needs to be able to play on people's emotions and manipulate their trust in him.

    Bond and Q work outside the system and begin hunting for the mole. Somehow they find the mole had dealings in India with someone from Spectre. Bond heads there to investigate. Madeline wishes to come but Bond insists she stays in London with Q and M. She obliges. When the story crosses back from Bond's mission back to London, Madeline will continue to play a key role. She knows Spectre, therefore can help the team.

    Bond heads to India and there encounters a CIA operative, sorta akin to Black Widow from the "Avengers" films; a real kick-ass bitch. I'm thinking Jessica Chastain:

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    Anyway it turns out she's actually Spectre and she's there to tidy-up any mess left behind from the mole. The first big action sequence involving Bond should be a chase with her that should end with 007 getting his arse handed to. We need a really great female henchman for Bond to tussle with. She'll turn up in every act to give Bond hell and will eventually die at the end of the film.

    After the fight, Bond is badly injured and sends a distress call to Q. When Madeline find out she panics; remember, she has a BIG SECRET.....

    Act Two:

    Bond has discovered whilst in India that Spectre are still in operation and currently the new acting head is called Irma Bunt. A former German spy known for her brutual interrogation methods. Obviously she will be played by Tilda Swinton:

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    Bond receives word that Bunt is in Japan and will be attending a swanky party being hosting by a Japanese official.

    Meanwhile, back in London, Mallory's life is going from bad to worse. He's being used as a scapegoat for Blofeld's escape and everyone is questioning his worth. He's tired, beleaguered and running out of steam. He knows he has to keep fighting and discover the mole but there is pressure above for him to fall on his sword. He inevitably gives in. He's publicly sacked and disgraced. His Chief of Staff, Bill Tanner, will act as the new head of MI6 until a new appointment is made.

    Anyway in Japan; Bond can't get into the party, that's until Madeline turns up and walks straight past security looking the part. She'll stay with Bond now for the rest of the movie. Bond's identity is revealed at the party by Chastain (Cue large action sequence in Tokyo) and Irma captures him and uses her classic interrogation skills on him (No idea what these could be). But a mysterious Japanese man at the party who eyes Bond saves him.

    Act Three:

    This is Tiger Tanaka, obviously. Tiger knows who Bond is and informs him that he'll be reporting him to the authorizes, that is unless he works for Japanese intelligence and helps them with a 'problem'. The important Japanese bigwig who set up the party earlier has got involved with a scientist who's up to no good called Shatterhand. However, Shatterhand isn't all he seems to be.....Bond agrees to kill the man when he finds out that it is Blofeld. Also Tiger reveals that he knows who MI6's mole is, if Bond does the assignment he will hand over the information. The rest of the film will pretty much play out as the YOLT novel does.

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    Bond will travel to the Garden of Death in his quest to kill Blofeld. You will have to continue the whole Cain and Abel-esque story set up in SP. This is a story of brothers hunting one another and trying to cause each other the most pain. Blofeld should be a significant character from this point on in the story and should figure heavily. I want Waltz to get some really meaty material, I also think that M should come to Japan after his firing (I'm sick of these films sticking that character in London for the dry expositional scenes).

    It will also be revealed that the MI6 mole is.....drumroll please.........TANNER! Mainly as he is the most dispensable member of the MI6 team, and also because Rory Kinnear is an amazing actor. His theater work is fantastic (his Iago and Hamlet are beyond impressive) and these films have somehow figured a way to waste his talents on three different occasions. Kinnear needs to be used, he's too good for the role they've lumped him in. Tanner was contacted by Spectre after Judi's M died, since then he has been a subversive character in MI6. Initially, he was forced to work for Spectre, however, he has since got a taste of power and become a true believer in Spectre's new world order.

    The finale will involve Blofeld killing Madeline by ruthlessly shooting her in the head right after she reveals to Bond that she is pregnant with his kid. (Maybe Blofeld should even kill M.)

    In the finale, Blofeld's plan will be revealed; with the help from the shady Japanese bigwig, Blofeld and Irma have created a new biological weapon, he plans to unleash it unless he is acquitted and granted international amnesty for his involvement in Spectre. Anyway, Bond will inevitably foil Blofeld's plan and strangle him to death at the close of the film.

    Essentially, I'm borrowing from Fleming a lot here; one of the big themes of Flemings books was Bond craving a normal life only to have it constantly denied to him due to the profession he has chosen. By taking on the role of 'the secret agent' Bond has to acknowledge he will never have a normal life and any attempt to leave it all behind will never work out. It was always foolish for 007 to believe he could drive off into the sunset with Madeline.

    He needs to have his world rocked. Also Blofeld needs to earn his status as the franchise's 'supervillain'. In SP we just saw him claiming to have been the author of all Bond's pain, we actually need to SEE him destroy Bond's world.

    At the end of the film, Bond reluctantly comes back to Mi6 knowing that he will forever be 007. I love a good morose ending. It would also be a nice end to the Craig era and would allow a new actor to start afresh with the Blofeld arc closed off.

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    There you have.

    Get in touch EON.

    If Eon went down this route - I'm fairly certain I'd at least be given a 'thank you' credit. [/quote]

    Looking forward to the first Teaser Trailer. ;)

    PS: I loved it.
  • JamesStockJamesStock
    Posts: 572
    dramaticscenesofQOS wrote: »
    It makes one grateful as a viewer that Marc Forster decided to cut out his originally-planned death scene from QoS at the end.
    Given how Spectre turned out, I almost wished they left it in.

    Just a random thought...what if Swan were captured by SPECTRE and they used her capture to manipulate Bond as the plot focuses on his journey to save her. We haven't seen a hijack scenario centered in a plot in the films.
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    So either Sandgren made a mistake or start of shooting pushed back a month now...

  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    Posts: 3,277
    Ouch.
  • FrankXavierFrankXavier
    Posts: 678
    Or Weintraub made a mistake.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited February 2019 Posts: 4,619
    This is exactly why announcing the start of filming date that much in advance never made sense to me. Also, if this is true, then @Archivo_007 was very likely wrong AGAIN. (Remember what he said about Nolan back in late 2017?) If filming won’t start until April it’s very unlikely they will hold the press conference before late March.
  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
    Posts: 630
    https://www.jborbisnonsufficit.com/2019/02/05/is-007-going-to-italy-again/

    My view on the italian location, with a couple photos of the Sassi.
    Hint, it's a basic rumor for now
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,452
    antovolk wrote: »
    So either Sandgren made a mistake or start of shooting pushed back a month now...


    :-w
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited February 2019 Posts: 11,425
    Hopefully it will be a slightly condensed shoot and they won't be too rushed in post production.

    I'd rather they get their ducks lined up and the script properly sorted than rush into it half arsed like they normally do.

    I've had enough of screenplays just cobbled together during the shoot.
  • FourDotFourDot
    Posts: 250
    I don't think there's ever been as much discussion of the director working on the script for Bond before? I wonder if Fukunaga will be the first credited writer-director for Bond?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited February 2019 Posts: 8,452
    Getafix wrote: »
    Hopefully it will be a slightly condensed shoot and they won't be too rushed in post production.

    I'd rather they get their ducks lined up and the script properly sorted than rush into it half arsed like they normally do.

    I've had enough of screenplays just cobbled together during the shoot.

    But the rumours of rehearsals already taking place are now dubious. And this also means that Stone or Johnson could join the cast in a few months.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    So either Sandgren made a mistake or start of shooting pushed back a month now...


    :-w

    My same reaction. It's been such a long and passionate wait that I don't know if I can stand another month waiting. XD
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,890
    Why don't we all (kindly) ask him to further elaborate? It's probably a mistake on his part but we might as well make sure.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Sod this for a game of soldiers !!
  • BlofeldsPussyBlofeldsPussy
    Posts: 3
    Denbigh wrote: »
    These suggestion of Shatterhand and Bond and Madeleine retiring to Goldeneye, offer one big problem if they're to happen... you've all just predicted it.

    I think that was the beauty of Skyfall, we didn't know what it meant. Give us a title that doesn't give it all away. If you wanna use an unused title, use Risico, apart from it meaning risk in italian, it could be anything they want it to be.

    The chance of Risico being the title might have increased now that we know Italy is a confirmed location.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited February 2019 Posts: 4,412
    This felt inevitable.

    I suspect they will start in late-March/early-April. I think a large part of this has to do with Fukunaga coming on the film in late September. He would only have had 5-and-half-months of pre-production if filming went ahead in March. Now he has at least 6-and-half-months.

    It does mean that he’ll have a more compressed filming/post-production window.

    It also means some of the talent suggested have enough time for their schedules to open up. Personally, I'm still holding on very dearly to the notion of Dakota Johnson


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