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Okay. I'm surprised but your data convinces me.
I haven't scanned over 1000 pages of this thread (!) and I am a casual visitor to this forum, don't visit it every week, but I genuinely never got any impression he was a candidate/someone that fans were excited about.
And I certainly don't recall the tabloid press and entertainment websites mentioning him on any lists. I literally cannot recall one list mentioning Johnson. Gillian Anderson (from X Files etc) was mentioned as a possible Bond 😄 but not Johnson. I even saw Dwayne Johnson (no relation!) mentioned but not Aaron Taylor-Johnson mentioned. Proof
https://metro.co.uk/2022/10/25/dwayne-johnson-could-see-himself-as-first-american-to-play-james-bond-17636655/#:~:text=Dwayne Johnson is eyeing up,years playing the iconic character.
He got more attention than ATJ and we all know Dwayne Johnson will never be Bond. I don't recall any buzz about ATJ at all. Nothing.
To be fair, almost every list had people like Elba, Hardy, etc. So not really realistic candidates. There might have been a few lists that had him, but they're hard to find now since everything that comes up for him are the recent rumors.
That's not to say they're not considering other actors of different ethnicities within the UK but I think the Lucien rumour made it seem like they're specifically wanting that and only that.
Aren't we all? ;-) In the end, we know very little. I recall that in 2005 Craig had rarely been mentioned at all before his announcement. But perhaps this time it's different. It's a pretty unpredictable process, I guess.
I'm not sold on Mescal to be honest. If he's signed on for a big film like Gladiator 2, maybe that rules him out, as he'll be busy with that?
I do remember though that back in 2005 all of a sudden the name Daniel Craig was everywhere, but people dismissed it as wild rumour. Apparently Clive Owen, Jude Law, Ewan McGregor and Robbie Williams were far more plausible candidates.
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1718258/Next-James-Bond-Aaron-Taylor-Johnson-Rory-Kinnear
I do like Mescal, though not sure for Bond... Really looking forward to Gladiator II though.
I thought so too, but while reading the article, I found a few things of interest:
Since this is only the second time we'll have a big announcement in the Internet age (and the first in the era of big leaks and whatnot), and "only" the seventh big announcement in over 60 years, I don't think we really can rely on patterns very much. I'm not saying he's wrong. I just don't think ATJ can be ruled out just yet because of the (interesting but not waterproof) points Kinnear made here.
Excellent point, @Ludovico! I hadn't even picked that up.
I must admit that I'm not hot on ATJ yet, but I have sort of warmed up to the idea.
I'm not hot on him either, but I'm not hostile to him.
Another point: if Kinnear knew anything about who is being considered (which I don't think he does), he wouldn't be able to speak publicly about it. He can't say: "Sure, ATJ is being considered now" or "Nah,,most likely it won't happen!". So he's talking very carefully.
Last point: the frontrunner in the public eye and in EON's eye are two very different things. Back in 2005, who was the frontrunner? Clive Owen, Gerard Butler?
Not necessarily because of the rumours of EON meeting with him in some capacity being true, but thinking that for the information to get out, and be confirmed, he must've made quite the impression or quite a big decision was made given how beyond Sony script leaks, EON is quite tight on this stuff usually.
But obviously now given everything we've discussed, it seems not to be the case, even if he could still get the part. He just doesn't have it now and hasn't even auditioned properly as far as we know.
Yeah it's not really anything that there's ever much of a trend on. Because the 007 before Craig was Pierce Brosnan, and he certainly was the frontrunner when he was cast, to the point of it barely being much news when he finally was.
To be fair to him he was on The One Show which is live, and had to say something which seemed vaguely interesting. I don't blame him conjuring up the first thing which came to his head. I doubt that ATJ's chances are any better or worse for being the current frontrunner. Not very solid at all.
Yeah, Kinnear was vague and careful in his remark.
Kinnear's godfather was Michael Williams, the husband of Judi Dench
Aaron Taylor-Johnson is the new frontrunner for Bond 26's 007, and the Kick-Ass star has one quality that the next James Bond needs to bring back.
https://screenrant.com/aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond-comedy-experience-important-why/
Yeah. I can see that point.
What are you sorry for? There is nothing in that article which makes this conclusive either way.
I doubt Rory Kinnear will know who the next candidate is for Bond. He's only an actor, not Bab's closest ally. And secondly, even if the rumours were true that ATJ is the next Bond, do you expect Rory to blurt this out if he knew? He would have no choice but to dispel any rumours until an announcement is made by EON.
If he did anything else, I doubt he'd be allowed near the set of a Bond film ever again.
The office and building staff at EON are the real insiders . Why don’t we have people everywhere? We need a mole. 🤔
I thought we had one, or two. ;)
I wish I was more adaptable with Bond, but I resented the Gardner novels when he promoted Bond to Captain Bond. It was a minor plot point, but it felt wrong him not being Commander Bond