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Oh definitely, there's a lot that goes on behind closed doors and only a few are privy to it. And of course I don't actually know whether Moore genuinely was persuaded on a film by film basis after initially wanting to leave, or if it was a case where this was an attempt to facilitate more pay, regardless of whether he was eventually invited back or not (it may well have been a combination of both).
But still, let's say hypothetically Theo James had been approached at one point by EON last year. No screen tests or anything, just a quick meeting to ask whether or not he would be interested in auditioning closer to the time. He's said he would be interested if offered, yes. Why would he then decide to publicly say that he doesn't think he'd be right for the role, even if joking about it? Even if he were unsure it'd be an odd thing to do. I don't see any sort of double bluff there working to his benefit. More likely if he was in that situation, and was legitimately interested in the role, he'd surely say something like, 'nothing's started with it yet I'm told and I'm concentrating on this project for now', 'it's not my decision but I'd be interested if I was offered', or, 'it depends on the script and director, but potentially I'd be interested if offered' etc.
It's not as straightforward as that. He's said that when approached privately about taking the role by Broccoli he was taken a bit aback as it wasn't on his radar. He liked Bond, but wasn't a fan of the direction of the series past GE seemingly. Likely he didn't immediately think he was right for the role, but he did ask to read a script and for all intents and purposes was convinced.
To me that's more on the fence than not interested. I think Bond legitimately wasn't a role he'd ever thought he'd get, much less be offered. And he seemingly considered taking the job like any other role - would he be right for it, was the creative direction to his interest/something he thought would work etc.
Like I said, if EON specifically want James, he'll be approached. They might even try to convince him. Hell, he may change his mind. He could well be Bond. But he's probably not lying or playing some weird game at the current time - he legitimately doesn't think he's right for Bond.
The smart money is on someone who has been in prestige films and is closer to 30, your Harris Dickinsons and Paul Mescals.
Perhaps Theo James is too old.
But I wouldn't discount him just yet. ;)
Suter is a decade younger, not as established, but is poised for stardom; committing to a possible 15 year run as 007 may be more appealing to him.
That said, this man isn't too old and he should be the next Bond:
He certainly has the look for the role, but he's coming up 41.
The main problem I see for Aidan is that he's not really doing anything that's putting him out there. By that I mean he's not really getting the attention he probably needs.
Sure he's got an active resume, but none of those roles have really kept him on the radar.
And Then There Were None is almost 10 years old, Poldark finished almost 5 years ago.
Since then he's done some very good work, but his exposure isn't quite what it was.
Perhaps Rivals will put him back in the spotlight. ;)
I don’t think his age matters, but I think the most likely scenario here is he won’t be what they’re looking for in a new Bond and won’t consider him. But who knows…
I agree his biggest enemy is his age. However we do not all age the same way. Turner could still pull it off, the others did, but not with an idiotic 5 year gap in between films.
Rivals could be interesting, but I do hope he will be cast in Bergerac. Supposedly Norton and Tenant are also in the running to star.
When will we finally get some actual info...
*sigh*
Also getting such role brings a lot of pressure. In fact, I doubt there is any other role that has such baggage and history attached to it. Even if tempted, it's normal an actor would doubt he's right for it, have impostor syndrome,, etc.
https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/4443769/daniel-craig-james-bond-steven-spielberg/
It's always about the script ;)
We need good writing.
““When I got the call, it really was left-field.” He continued, “Honored though I was, I wasn’t deeply enthusiastic”,
as well as
““For me, at that stage, it was promises, promises. Unfortunately, they didn’t have a script and I can’t say yes without a script.”
I can see a situation where James is in the same position; ‘show me a script and I’ll give you an answer
https://fandomwire.com/i-was-honestly-wanting-to-dislike-it-daniel-craig-nearly-declined-james-bond-role-before-steven-spielberg-convinced-him-after-working-in-131m-oscar-nominated-movie/
Lets see why would they not have a script yet…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike
I guess you got me @peter there was no reason a script couldnt be done
Look i am not an ATJ supporter and i have said multiple times i hope i am wrong and he isnt 007….. but its not just that he was at these events but that he seems like the kind of guy Babs would go gaga over looks similar to Dalton and Craig…
Could i be wrong sure could i be right sure we wont know any time soon
I do feel though your letting our private argument color your response to me… so publicly i will say
Peter I am sorry i was stupid and I apologize for everything
There can we all move on and discuss 007
Ironically enough speaking of potential 007’s now that the actors i want are legit too old there isn’t anyone i want its weird i want to be excited for bond 26 but meh
If i had to choose one maybe James Norton he was ok in the bob marley bio pic
Casting before script?, or; script before cast?
By your logic, they knew, in November of ‘22 that ATJ is Bond. So— that’s a full six months before the WGA strike my friend.
If they knew he was Bond by that point, they’d have a head start BEFORE the strike to have a couple of solid drafts under their belt.
The strike ended in September ‘23– that’s six months ago. Plenty of time to then polish their script and make announcements…
But none of this has happened.
Once again, by your logic, I’d just as soon say Broccoli was after her friend, who is a member of the EoN family (when she directed Craig and Dench (in VO), as their characters in the Bond series, for International Women’s Day), to direct the next Bond film.
And, really, if ATJ was cast about two years ago, you do t think that “secret” would have been blown by now??
I’m not trying to “get you”, by the way…
I just think this is the more obvious explanation , grounded in some kind of facts (rather than feelings):
ATJ’s wife is a member of the EoN family.
She directed Craig as his James Bond persona for International Women’s Day, and Judi Dench (in VO), played her M character.
The chance that a member of the EoN family was invited to a celebration of James Bond is highly probable (and there were likely many more members of their family in attendance that night).
So, there’s that…, and;
There’s a very good possibility @Risico007 , that no one will be cast until AFTER a script is done, a director is hired, and auditions are complete. If ATJ gets an audition and eventually wins the role, it wasn’t because he was anointed, almost two years ago, it will be because he won the role over other candidates in a highly competitive audition process for a highly sought after job.
While you might be right my gut says the role is his if he wants it…. That being said i would of bet a gentleman’s dollar Nolan would be anounced as writer/director of bond 26 right after Oppenhimer came out… and i was obviously wrong so maybe i am wrong here….
Although it just dawned on me what if ATJ is Bond for the new game… again main stream actors have done just video games before and most news sites could care less about a bond game then how their grass is growing hence why it would be a secret still… and would make sense why ATJ was acting similar to Craig etc as if he was part of the family…
I dont know like i said right now if someone held a gun to my head and asked who is the next 007 my gut says its ATJ but the reason i never gamble on anything in hollywood is because i am always wrong
If someone held a gun to my head I’d make the safer answer: they won’t anoint a new Bond without, at least, a script and auditions— like any other film project happening in the world at the moment (why wouldn’t EoN do auditions, @Risico007 ? Batman actors are auditioned. Superman. But not James Bond?? Sounds…. Unrealistic, at best), so therefore: no actor has yet been cast.
In the end, like with the budget conversation: I don’t have a horse in the race, and I don’t really care who gets the nod as EoN have been right with their casting over all these years.
But I do know that they’ll go through development of the script first. Then likely hire a director. Then let the best actors fight to get the role via carefully managed auditions (to just simply give it to an actor based off what? And the vetting process in today’s day and age, where hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake?? Naw, anointments don’t work on huge blockbuster pictures (I mean if we were making an indie pic together? At $5 million bucks? Sure, get a lead actor with a name, who can sell to territories , and you most certainly won’t be auditioning an ATJ— you simply make an offer; but on a $200 million (plus) tentpole? With multiple films on the line??? Nope. That just ain’t happening).
I just don’t see this casting. There are way better candidates. The game being played on this site shows there are some great potential candidates, many of them with better tools in the tool box compared to ATJ.
And there are probably a few candidates that haven’t yet shown up on our radars yet.
Is that true though? I mean, it may be, but, outside of a bunch of clickbait articles from 18 and 24 months ago, I just didn’t hear general Bond fans in my (granted, small) cirle, even ask me about ATJ and the veracity of these articles. It just didn’t “click” with them. In my life, I still get asked about the same old, same old “candidate” (Hardy, Elba, Fassbender). Thankfully these are even thinning out…
@Denbigh , and Colonel Venus, and a few people here have championed him.
But in “life”, outside of clickbait articles with sources that say he shot the gun barrel , I just haven’t heard anything about ATJ being a fan favourite.
I dunno 🤷♂️ ?? Maybe I’m sheltered….