Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Posts: 6,776
    Benny wrote: »
    If you look at Cavill in TMFU, MI : Fallout and Argyle, he’s essentially playing the same character.
    If cast as Bond I don’t think there would be any more depth than we’ve seen before from him.
    It would be a safe choice, but I feel the wrong choice.
    He’s just not a very good actor.
    I agree on all accounts. His name only came up again after Bezos question, or so I’m told.
  • edited 12:59pm Posts: 457
    Theo is too greek, Bond is an Anglo-Saxon alpha male. It's not complicated, and that's the character, like it or not.

    Too greek? 😁

    Well can't he pretend to be British?

    Maybe George Lazenby was too Australian but he pretended to be British. 😉

    Cavill is a depreciating asset in the business due to some huge box office flops. That negative fact doesn't apply to Aidan Turner or some of the other names mentioned. Cavill and Elba have had many big flops so I'll be amazed if Amazon go with Cavill and Elba is arguably too old ish. Apparently Cavill's Highlander reboot goes into production this spring so maybe people in the industry still consider him potential box office. Who knows! Maybe Highlander will be a streaming release and bypass theatrical release.

    Cavill has made three spy films. All huge box office duds - Man From Uncle, Argylle, The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. Amazon are impossibly rich but I don't get why they would want to cast a guy with such a poor box office record (so too Elba). Maybe find a new chap with no negative box office baggage.

    It's impossible to know why some actors get high profile work even with many box office duds on their cv and some don't. It's beyond explanation! Good agent, perhaps! 🤭 Cavill getting Superman and Bond? Mamma Mia!!

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  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    Aidan Turner isn't anywhere near as wooden as Cavill is. Turner is just more varied. His Bond could be as intense as Dalton or as charming as Moore, and most notes in between. Cavill? Nah.
    The age thing between them is largely moot as Cavill us like a month older than Turner.
  • edited 1:08pm Posts: 457
    Is Cavill aging quickly-ish? He looks noticeably older in that watch video.

    Richard Madden? He's worked with Amazon on Citadel. He's 38. I can imagine Amazon picking an actor they've worked with before. Less risky than an unknown.
  • Posts: 6,776
    Aidan Turner isn't anywhere near as wooden as Cavill is. Turner is just more varied. His Bond could be as intense as Dalton or as charming as Moore, and most notes in between. Cavill? Nah.
    The age thing between them is largely moot as Cavill us like a month older than Turner.

    Turner is a really good thespian, IMO. Plenty of his work can prove it. Good stage actor, too. Respected amongst peers.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    bondywondy wrote: »
    Is Cavill aging quickly-ish? He looks noticeably older in that advert video. Oh well.

    Some recent-ish photos of Cavill and A. Turner (mind the beard):
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  • Posts: 457
    I'm going with Amazon picking a fresh name. But just a wild guess. Amazon may have no idea who to cast. "We have no idea. We just wanted the franchise. We never thought about who to cast."

    🤭

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Fresh name? Look no further...

  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,683
    talos7 wrote: »
    Fresh name? Look no further...


    Along with Aidan Turner, still my top pick. Suter just needs a little bit more exposure to be in the frame
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited 1:39pm Posts: 8,671
    Benny wrote: »
    If you look at Cavill in TMFU, MI : Fallout and Argyle, he’s essentially playing the same character.
    If cast as Bond I don’t think there would be any more depth than we’ve seen before from him.
    It would be a safe choice, but I feel the wrong choice.
    He’s just not a very good actor.

    That's not necessarily a bad thing.

    It depends on whether they want to do a deep exploration of the character, or use him more as a platonic cypher, a smaller peice of a larger pie.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited 1:41pm Posts: 8,370
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Fresh name? Look no further...


    Along with Aidan Turner, still my top pick. Suter just needs a little bit more exposure to be in the frame

    He has the Inspector Lynley coming out later this year; I'm hoping that it's his "Remington Steele"
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,683
    talos7 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Fresh name? Look no further...


    Along with Aidan Turner, still my top pick. Suter just needs a little bit more exposure to be in the frame

    He has the Inspector Lynley coming out later this year; I'm hoping that it's his "Remington Steele"

    Sounds great, I'll have to keep an eye out for that thanks mate
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,293
    Benny wrote: »
    If you look at Cavill in TMFU, MI : Fallout and Argyle, he’s essentially playing the same character.
    If cast as Bond I don’t think there would be any more depth than we’ve seen before from him.
    It would be a safe choice, but I feel the wrong choice.
    He’s just not a very good actor.

    That's not necessarily a bad thing.

    It depends on whether they want to do a deep exploration of the character, or use him more as a platonic cypher, a smaller peice of a larger pie.

    Are you saying James Bond could be a smaller piece of a larger pie?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited 2:25pm Posts: 6,472
    I think, with the Amazon acquisition of the creative rights, Jacob Elordi's chances just went way up. They well might be looking for a clearly rising international star, not an unknown.

    I'm not big on social media but check out how many followers or likes an actor has...that will eventually lead Amazon and its algorithms to the next Bond actor.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/jacob-elordi-instagram-almost-made-me-quit-acting-2022-8

    They are going to want someone who already is demonstrating international appeal and not someone who is only just breaking in the UK or US. There was a chance of that with Broccoli and Wilson with their deep ties to the British film industry, but that is not the case with Amazon.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
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    Elawdi? Lawd no!
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited 3:01pm Posts: 6,472
    Yes, Elordi, or someone with a similar number of followers.

    Barbara Broccoli's guiding hand on the franchise is only going to be truly appreciated in retrospect.

    Forget about your Leo Suters or Jack Lowdens now...they are not well known enough to pass muster as against Amazon's algorithms.

    Who knew AI would be what could take down Bond?
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited 5:14pm Posts: 3,224
    From Cavill, Turner, Theo, Elordi or Suter, I'd go with Turner. What Thunderball said about Turner's Bond 'could be as intense as Dalton or as charming as Moore, and most notes in between' rings true to me. I can see that more clearly, and more convincingly, with Aidan Turner than the others. Being the first Amazon Bond could be a poison chalice for anyone, though. If Turner had misgivings before, the new context is only likely to add to them.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Elordi would be a huge disappointment.
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    Univex wrote: »
    Henry Cavill was just announced as Longines new ambassador. Looking cool, I'd say. Lots of grey there in his hair. We could do worse, I think.

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    If he wasnt a bit of a wooden actor he’d be perfect
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    edited 6:31pm Posts: 589

    Benny wrote: »
    If you look at Cavill in TMFU, MI : Fallout and Argyle, he’s essentially playing the same character.
    If cast as Bond I don’t think there would be any more depth than we’ve seen before from him.
    It would be a safe choice, but I feel the wrong choice.
    He’s just not a very good actor.

    I would love to hear how Cavill is playing the same character in Fallout and Argyle. Both films I really enjoyed. Let's be honest, a lot of the Bond actors have had different acting limitations. Moore mostly played heroes, Brosnan has his pain-face, and Dalton can be too thespiany on the big screen. I think Cavill would do just fine, but I see why people have concerns.
  • Posts: 6,776
    I wouldn’t mind of he played Bond the way he played Napoleon Solo. That was a page out of Roger Moore’s suave Bond.
  • edited 7:10pm Posts: 457
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Fresh name? Look no further...


    Along with Aidan Turner, still my top pick. Suter just needs a little bit more exposure to be in the frame

    Yes I can imagine Amazon considering Suter. I've seen an interview with him and he came across quite well.

    Jacob Elordi is Australian but that may not matter as Amazon are in charge. Hopefully Amazon consider British actors first but they may not prioritize British actors. But no American actor, please!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Aidan Turner isn't anywhere near as wooden as Cavill is. Turner is just more varied. His Bond could be as intense as Dalton or as charming as Moore, and most notes in between. Cavill? Nah.
    The age thing between them is largely moot as Cavill us like a month older than Turner.

    Turner is a better actor, but Cavill is a better movie star. I don't think he's one of the better movies stars around, but he does have a bit presence and charisma and can fill a screen. If I had to pick one (and it's really not a great choice) I'd go for Cavill as he'd be an okay lead big enough to fill a Bond film. I worry Turner would disappear into the film; I like him in telly stuff but he's not a film star.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Actor vs movie star, those are often two different things; the trick is to find someone who's both.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 7:40pm Posts: 17,121
    talos7 wrote: »
    Actor vs movie star, those are often two different things; the trick is to find someone who's both.

    Absolutely, like Craig or Connery. I'd say Hoult is potentially that guy too.

    Folks might say that Roger wasn't a good actor, but watch something like the San Monique extended hotel room scene: that's a masterclass of light, charismatic comedy acting; it's something not just anyone could pull off. If you imagine Lazenby trying to be as sparkling, knowing and funny yet likeable in that scene, it's hard not to picture the whole thing falling on its face because he just couldn't do anything as complex as that. He was an excellent actor at a particular type of acting: you don't get to be that successful if you're rubbish.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
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    You forget one thing. In this case the actor BECOMES the movie star. Turner will do that when Amazon introduces him as Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 7:41pm Posts: 17,121
    You forget one thing. In this case the actor BECOMES the movie star. Turner will do that when Amazon introduces him as Bond.

    Yes, you're right: I've forgotten something which happens only in your wet dreams, silly of me. ;)
  • Posts: 12,534
    I think with the right Directer? Who knows what Bond is and about? I think ATJ could make a terrific Bond.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
    Posts: 259
    Look, it's simple, if ATJ becomes the next Bond that's me done. That man child annoys me to no end. Also, @mtm ever heard of this trendy thing called manifesting? See, that's what I try in regards to Turner. If you, for once, try and manifest to become a nice guy, this forum will flourish (even more). Happy, happy, joy.
  • Posts: 17
    Manifesting is to do with your own desires/intention/belief. I'd say you're more encouraging or influencing the decision.

    Anyway, in other news, I've been invited to a script reading for a amateur theatre company. It's a start.
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