Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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    bondjames wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Hiddleston is my choice but his comments lately have been discouraging.
    I agree. If Hiddle doesn't get it, I'm sure whoever the next fella is will be in a tough spot, because not only will he be compared to Craig, but Hiddle (and what could have been) as well. Similar to what Dalton had to endure with Brosnan in the wings.

    I don't think the situation will be similar at all. Brosnan already had the part and had it taken away from him. Hiddleston has just been rumored by some rather untrustworthy tabloids.

    Going back to the last search, I don't think that many have really compared Craig to the likes of Clive Owen, Hugh Jackman, or Henry Cavill, in addition to his predecessor. Hiddleston is a star, but I don't think that he's got the kind of name recognition or that kind of "destined to be Bond" status attached to him that would put him in that position.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    dalton wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Hiddleston is my choice but his comments lately have been discouraging.
    I agree. If Hiddle doesn't get it, I'm sure whoever the next fella is will be in a tough spot, because not only will he be compared to Craig, but Hiddle (and what could have been) as well. Similar to what Dalton had to endure with Brosnan in the wings.

    I don't think the situation will be similar at all. Brosnan already had the part and had it taken away from him. Hiddleston has just been rumored by some rather untrustworthy tabloids.

    Going back to the last search, I don't think that many have really compared Craig to the likes of Clive Owen, Hugh Jackman, or Henry Cavill, in addition to his predecessor. Hiddleston is a star, but I don't think that he's got the kind of name recognition or that kind of "destined to be Bond" status attached to him that would put him in that position.
    That may be true, but his proponents are very strong advocates of him for the role, including myself. That is similar to the Dalton/Brosnan discussion, where, if I understand it correctly, there was big underlying support for Brosnan due to press build up (similar to what has happened with Hiddle to date).

    Owen perhaps was in a similar spot, but certainly not Cavill or Jackman, where I don't recall much clamour for them.
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    I think it'll be interesting to see who the fans are clamouring for once the search actually begins. It's all been tabloid nonsense to this point, with the media picking those that they want to publicize and putting them up as candidates. Incidentally, it's two candidates that fit the mold of some of the candidates from 2005, in that they recently starred in TV or movie vehicles that put them in spy roles and/or tuxedos. Clive Owen in Croupier was a prime example back in 2005.

    I could easily see Hiddleston and Turner falling by the wayside with the fans once the search begins in earnest, sometime after the distributor issue is settled, and we get some more solid reports about candidates who are actually speaking with EON. Once some of those names come out, I'm not sure that Hiddleston and Turner retain their frontrunner status with the fans.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    That may be @dalton, but who do you see having more credibility with the public than these two? I am at a loss re: potential candidates.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    That may be @dalton, but who do you see having more credibility with the public than these two? I am at a loss re: potential candidates.

    Nobody really at the moment. I just don't think that we really know who EON is looking at, because I doubt that they're really looking all that hard at the moment, if at all. The last time the list was said by MGW to be over 250 names. I'd imagine a similarly thorough search would be conducted, but if you were to believe the tabloids, you'd think that Hiddleston and Turner were the only two people on the planet that could do the job.

    I'll buy into Hiddleston or Turner more as viable candidates once we get some reputable outlets mentioning them as being in the running, but for now it's all tabloid gossip, the same kind of tabloid stuff that had Idris Elba meeting with Bond producers in the leadup to Skyfall about replacing Daniel Craig then.

    I would venture to guess that both will be considered, but so will many others. Taking my advocacy for Rupert Friend out of the equation, I still very much believe that he'll be considered as well, given that he impressed EON the last time around, as they tend to go back to names they've already spoken to during these times. I would imagine that Henry Cavill will also be a name that gets consideration, if he did truly impress EON enough to be the runner-up to Craig the last time as has widely been reported. Superman might make that a bit tricky, but I would imagine that he'll be heavily considered as well, given EON's track record. Hiddleston and Turner will probably fit into this process, probably in a more substantial way than guys like Hugh Jackman and Ewan McGregor did the last time, but I don't buy them as the supposed "final two" candidates for the part, at least not based on the information we have thus far.

  • edited June 2016 Posts: 15,127
    Ludovico wrote: »
    All these choices about the Bond actors are the boyish ones rather than the manly ones. Bond 25 won't be a Young Bond movie, is it?

    That is a potential issues with casting a younger actor. That and his inexperience as an actor. The opposite issue is that if you want the actor to play Bond for a few movies, you cannot cast him too old. With a two years gap, I thought the cast of a mid to late 30s actor would be ideal, not I tend to think early 30s would be better.
    With the ideal search done and not going for the names that appear on the mainstream list, they could find an actor who looks the part as a man and not as a boy. Rugged, intimidating, powerful. An unknown would be filling in the role (very much like Sean Connery) if people don't want the mid-aged actors making debuts in the role.

    That would be great actually. Might be easier said than done though. Especially nowadays: so many people look younger than they are. Sean Connery looked very much seasoned in DN, but nowadays men of 32 look like kiddos.

    @bondjames-I don't think any potential Bond actor will have the same presumptive heir status as Brosnan did. It truly was a one off. Circa 2005, Brosnan had no clear heir to begin with, one of the reasons why Craig ended up convincing the skeptics.
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    Thats one of the nays I have with Hiddles , IF I chose to care ;) , he cerzainly doesnt look rugged and never will but not like a boy either. So - what category is he? He is not good looking enough to be a pretty boy either.

    Bit I prefer him to Turner. His looks totally turns me off. He would be a very conventional choice.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    Thats one of the nays I have with Hiddles , IF I chose to care ;) , he cerzainly doesnt look rugged and never will but not like a boy either. So - what category is he? He is not good looking enough to be a pretty boy either.

    Bit I prefer him to Turner. His looks totally turns me off. He would be a very conventional choice.

    Turner looks too obvious BUT if he had the acting chops and presence to boot he would be a great candidate.

    Right now he's kinda like a Bentley with a Ford Escort engine. Great looking but no vroom
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Thats one of the nays I have with Hiddles , IF I chose to care ;) , he cerzainly doesnt look rugged and never will but not like a boy either. So - what category is he? He is not good looking enough to be a pretty boy either.

    Bit I prefer him to Turner. His looks totally turns me off. He would be a very conventional choice.

    Turner looks too obvious BUT if he had the acting chops and presence to boot he would be a great candidate.

    Right now he's kinda like a Bentley with a Ford Escort engine. Great looking but no vroom

    That is my one big reservation about Turner. Okay so he was good as Philip Lombard but that is no proof of anything. And remember his performance in The Hobbit? Me neither.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I think Hiddleston has the part, but if Turner got it. I'd be happy, he too looks the part. :)
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    Thats one of the nays I have with Hiddles , IF I chose to care ;) , he cerzainly doesnt look rugged and never will but not like a boy either. So - what category is he? He is not good looking enough to be a pretty boy either.

    Bit I prefer him to Turner. His looks totally turns me off. He would be a very conventional choice.

    Really i think they ( Hidleston and Turner) are pretty much the same. Good looking but not gorgeous to the point of being pretty Boys. Turner is a little more rugged but their look is quite similar : Slim with a fine body and not very handsome faces Turner just a little darker.

    In some weird way both remind me to Ralph Fiennes who slightly considered in the 90s.

    Turner and Hidleston both are very intense and very serious with their work both great actors and I could see both playing Heathcliff in a future Wuthering Heights adaptation roled played by Timothy Dalton and Ralph Fiennes.

    Soooo mmmm i think even non pf them fit my mold of what i find hot they can certainly play Bond i just noticed if can picture an actor as heathcliff i can picture them as Bond as well and its not surprise my least two favorite Bonds are the ones I can't see as heathcliff.

    So we could say Bond is a glamorized modern day heathcliff. i wonder if Fleming secretley used the bronte Sisters as inspiration for the Bond chracter because Fassbender who played Rochester in Jane Eyre is another strong candidate.

    so maybe Bond is a mixture of Rochester and heathcliff ?


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    Szonana wrote: »

    Really i think they ( Hidleston and Turner) are pretty much the same. Good looking but not gorgeous to the point of being pretty Boys. Turner is a little more rugged but their look is quite similar : Slim with a fine body and not very handsome faces Turner just a little darker.

    Right. They dont have handsome, maskulin faces, which describes half of our Bonds but not as good looking as the other half.
    Personally I prefer maskulin. Pretty gets boring soon, although I have to admit, I always loved me some Roger.
    ;)
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    Szonana wrote: »

    Really i think they ( Hidleston and Turner) are pretty much the same. Good looking but not gorgeous to the point of being pretty Boys. Turner is a little more rugged but their look is quite similar : Slim with a fine body and not very handsome faces Turner just a little darker.

    Right. They dont have handsome, maskulin faces, which describes half of our Bonds but not as good looking as the other half.
    Personally I prefer maskulin. Pretty gets boring soon, although I have to admit, I always loved me some Roger.
    ;)

    Im more into the pretty half, i mean hello my man is Pierce but i also like the Masculine Bonds like Craig and Connery.
    maybe it won't make much sense to you but i feel like Pierce while having a very handsome pretty boy face his body is more masculine.

    Pierce is half and half hehe. if that makes sense
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Thats one of the nays I have with Hiddles , IF I chose to care ;) , he cerzainly doesnt look rugged and never will but not like a boy either. So - what category is he? He is not good looking enough to be a pretty boy either.

    Bit I prefer him to Turner. His looks totally turns me off. He would be a very conventional choice.

    Turner looks too obvious BUT if he had the acting chops and presence to boot he would be a great candidate.

    Right now he's kinda like a Bentley with a Ford Escort engine. Great looking but no vroom

    My thoughts exactly.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 1,661
    dalton wrote: »

    I just don't think that we really know who EON is looking at, because I doubt that they're really looking all that hard at the moment, if at all. The last time the list was said by MGW to be over 250 names. I'd imagine a similarly thorough search would be conducted, but if you were to believe the tabloids, you'd think that Hiddleston and Turner were the only two people on the planet that could do the job.

    Hiddleston and Turner will probably fit into this process, probably in a more substantial way than guys like Hugh Jackman and Ewan McGregor did the last time, but I don't buy them as the supposed "final two" candidates for the part, at least not based on the information we have thus far.

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)
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    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited June 2016 Posts: 5,131
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.

    Ah yes without a doubt. Hence, Idris Elba for no other reason than that he's played a cool detective and he's black (so PC casting). Which ironically is a 'shallow' suggestion!
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.

    Ah yes without a doubt. Hence, Idris Elba for no other reason than that he's played a cool detective and he's black (so PC casting). Which ironically is a 'shallow' suggestion!

    Put any good looking actor in a tuxedo and he is going to be suggested for Bond.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.

    Ah yes without a doubt. Hence, Idris Elba for no other reason than that he's played a cool detective and he's black (so PC casting). Which ironically is a 'shallow' suggestion!

    Put any good looking actor in a tuxedo and he is going to be suggested for Bond.

    Or a singer.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.

    Ah yes without a doubt. Hence, Idris Elba for no other reason than that he's played a cool detective and he's black (so PC casting). Which ironically is a 'shallow' suggestion!

    Put any good looking actor in a tuxedo and he is going to be suggested for Bond.

    Or a singer.
    Robbie Williams. :))
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.

    Ah yes without a doubt. Hence, Idris Elba for no other reason than that he's played a cool detective and he's black (so PC casting). Which ironically is a 'shallow' suggestion!

    He also happens to be an excellent actor. Irrespective of his skin colour and age he has more than enough acting talent to pull the role off.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.
    Yes, but that wasn't what I was referring to. I am speaking on the subject of what the media has represented thus far. Neither Owen nor Jackman, despite the awful amount of reports in the past decade, have been considered for the role. That's what's happening with the Hiddleston/Turner double-bill.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.

    Ah yes without a doubt. Hence, Idris Elba for no other reason than that he's played a cool detective and he's black (so PC casting). Which ironically is a 'shallow' suggestion!

    Put any good looking actor in a tuxedo and he is going to be suggested for Bond.

    Or a singer.
    Robbie Williams. :))

    Oh I remember the rumours about him. My sister-in-law used to tell me he'd make a great Bond.
    doubleoego wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.

    Ah yes without a doubt. Hence, Idris Elba for no other reason than that he's played a cool detective and he's black (so PC casting). Which ironically is a 'shallow' suggestion!

    He also happens to be an excellent actor. Irrespective of his skin colour and age he has more than enough acting talent to pull the role off.

    He's an excellent actor (I loved him in The Wire), but he was very arrogant regarding the whole thing.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Oh I remember the rumours about him. My sister-in-law used to tell me he'd make a great Bond.
    It was the Millennium, man. :))
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Why, 2K, sir ;)
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Turner's English accent is immaculate. I saw him in And Then There Were None and assumed he was English. Never realized he was Irish.

    I think he played an Irishman in it.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    I don't want to live in a world where Turner isn't "very handsome".
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 6,601
    I don't want to live in a world where Turner isn't "very handsome".

    Why not? Its a matter of taste, as usual. He doesnt klick my boxes at all but obviously other think different. Its all good. Get a room with Mendes ;)
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.

    Ah yes without a doubt. Hence, Idris Elba for no other reason than that he's played a cool detective and he's black (so PC casting).
    doubleoego wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yep! Just as Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman were the "only" candidates back then, until Daniel Craig came aboard out of nowhere. ;)

    There's a difference between what the general public thinks would make a good Bond candidate and what people in the known thinks. The general public often has a rather shallow view on casting.

    Ah yes without a doubt. Hence, Idris Elba for no other reason than that he's played a cool detective and he's black (so PC casting). Which ironically is a 'shallow' suggestion!

    He also happens to be an excellent actor. Irrespective of his skin colour and age he has more than enough acting talent to pull the role off.

    Yes he is a good actor.But he can't pull the role of a white (WASP) character off can he? So he is a pointless suggestion.
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