Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Posts: 15,125
    I don't think Cavill is as bad as an actor as people say he is.

    Not as bad, just not very good. I think he had potential at a time, he just never truly developed.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited August 2016 Posts: 15,423
    He's not an Oscar-worthy actor, if that's what you mean.

    But, a bad actor? Well, he wouldn't have been there, right now, if he were bad.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    peter wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Much as I disliked SP, seeing some of these recent suggestions makes me long for Craig to remain Bond well into his 60's.

    hit the nail on the head... they all seem so blah...

    Maybe that's exactly why Barbara insist on keeping Craig,myes she loves him but she understands no one is completely irreplaceable.
    I guess she understands that with candidates like the ones we are mentioning she rather stay with Craig even if the wait is way too long.

    Let's be honest we are all throwing names but without excitement and without real conviction so i think Barbara will wait till Craig says yes or a real good candidate appears.
    We all know the right one hasn't come out yet.

    My biggest question will the next Bond be an unexpected like Craig and Dalton or the media's favorite like Pierce and Roger Moore.


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    I'm assuming you're quite young, @Szonana, however Craig is not. How many Bonds does Craig seriously have left in him before the public start to think he's getting way too old for Bond? People are already calling into question the age gap between his last leading lady and love interest Lea Seydoux, so what are they going to say when the gap widens even more with the next lady? Also, Craig himself can't keep putting his 50-year-old body through the rigours of action scenes without it having a long term impact on his health. Barbara is going to have to bite the bullet sooner or later, and it might as well be now. Most of us remember the fiasco of Cubby not letting a creaking Roger Moore go for the very same reasons you state BB is scared about replacing DC. I honestly hope Barbara knows when to move on and find another suitable candidate and not draw out Craig's final swan song for another ten bloody years! If she honestly can't find a replacement for the here and now (and I think she can) then she shouldn't be in the business.

    Like I've pointed out before, they're still negotiating a replacement for Sony, so until that's finalised we're not going to get any details about Bond 25.
  • I think Tom Hiddleston could be interesting- he has that background of privilege and he's capable of some good acting. For me though, he looks too boyish- I can't see him as a commanding figure. He's not unattractive but I don't think he has the sex appeal- or rather his appeal is confined to an audience who probably won't go to Bond films. A bit like Benedict Cumberbatch, which I really don't get at all.

    I guess however that it is good to have some risk and a bit of a gamble because at least the film would be interesting. No point in picking a Craig look-alike.

    I think Aiden Turner would be a good pick; he has a mainstream sex appeal and can do the charm. The edge he has above Hiddleston I think is that he can play an Alpha type. If you've seen Being Human, you can completely believe that the vampires would look up to him and yet he still has an outsider quality. I think he's also believable as a hero; whilst Bond isn't a nice person he still has a sense of honour and principle.

    Whilst Craig is good, the age gap is widening and it's becoming less plausible that these women are throwing themselves at him. They can get away with actresses in their mid-thirties but any younger and it's hard to see why they would be attracted to Bond other than the plot. I don't think Craig has the charm which would overcome his age; Moore was creaky but at a stretch one could believe that he had charmed the women into his bed (a big stretch but still).
  • I think Tom Hiddleston could be interesting- he has that background of privilege and he's capable of some good acting. For me though, he looks too boyish- I can't see him as a commanding figure. He's not unattractive but I don't think he has the sex appeal- or rather his appeal is confined to an audience who probably won't go to Bond films. A bit like Benedict Cumberbatch, which I really don't get at all.

    I guess however that it is good to have some risk and a bit of a gamble because at least the film would be interesting. No point in picking a Craig look-alike.

    I think Aiden Turner would be a good pick; he has a mainstream sex appeal and can do the charm. The edge he has above Hiddleston I think is that he can play an Alpha type. If you've seen Being Human, you can completely believe that the vampires would look up to him and yet he still has an outsider quality. I think he's also believable as a hero; whilst Bond isn't a nice person he still has a sense of honour and principle.

    Whilst Craig is good, the age gap is widening and it's becoming less plausible that these women are throwing themselves at him. They can get away with actresses in their mid-thirties but any younger and it's hard to see why they would be attracted to Bond other than the plot. I don't think Craig has the charm which would overcome his age; Moore was creaky but at a stretch one could believe that he had charmed the women into his bed (a big stretch but still).
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2016 Posts: 23,883
    lady_xanax wrote: »
    Whilst Craig is good, the age gap is widening and it's becoming less plausible that these women are throwing themselves at him. They can get away with actresses in their mid-thirties but any younger and it's hard to see why they would be attracted to Bond other than the plot. I don't think Craig has the charm which would overcome his age; Moore was creaky but at a stretch one could believe that he had charmed the women into his bed (a big stretch but still).
    I tend to agree. Martin Campbell was able to create the circumstances and scenarios to make Craig plausible with the opposite sex in a Bondian way in CR (particularly with Solange but also with Vesper - although that was on account of the fantastic script and the superb chemistry Craig/Green shared). However, since then, I've not really been that impressed. It seems shoehorned in rather than organic.

    Whatever one may say about Moore, the man had the natural smooth charm even in his later years, which compensated for his lack of physical prowess.

    I'd like to see more of that natural silky smoothness in the next Bond actor.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    You can't go wrong with Moore.
  • Posts: 15,125
    I always thought Craig was a very convincing seducer as Bond. RE the age gap: going for Bond girls in say their 40s might be a temporary solution should Craig do one more. And given the names mentioned the age gap between Bond and the Bond girls will quickly become an issue unless they cast a much younger Bond.

    The problem right now is that there's no obvious successor. A bit like when Craig was cast actually.
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    bondsum wrote: »
    People are already calling into question the age gap between his last leading lady and love interest Lea Seydoux, so what are they going to say when the gap widens even more with the next lady?

    Eeh... that doesn't actually depend on the Bond actor's age, you know, it depends on casting decisions. It's not that Craig was too old in Spectre, Seydoux was too young. Even if the Bond actor was 35 and they then cast an 18 year old as the love interest, the age gap would be just as big. However, there is no need for these huge age gaps. They could always cast women who aren't so young they could be the leading man's daughter. I know it's a novel and quite a radical idea for Hollywood, but hey...
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Whatever one may say about Moore, the man had the natural smooth charm even in his later years, which compensated for his lack of physical prowess.

    I'd like to see more of that natural silky smoothness in the next Bond actor.
    Clearly you weren't around whenMR, FYEO, OP and AVTAK were doing the rounds in the cinemas then, @bondjames. People went to Bond movies to laugh at Moore in the role, not to appreciate his natural smooth charm, much like they did the idiots down Colney Hatch; it had become a sad spectators sport to jeer and deride Bond by this point. Not that the producers/writers/director weren't above ridiculing their own product themselves. They seemed to enjoy heaping more coals on the fire and fanning the flames of Bond's self-destruction more than anyone.

    I do think there are some here that have a romantic memory of the older Moore Bond movies, that weren't old enough to understand just how far Bond had sunk from his glorious heights, and how audiences just wanted to see another Moore 007 Comedy when buying a ticket. Most of the real fans had given up on there ever being a serious Bond movie ever again. My toes curl at any mention of returning to those less than halcyon days and seeing another bloody Roger Moore clone/type Bond. No thank you.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I always thought Craig was a very convincing seducer as Bond. RE the age gap: going for Bond girls in say their 40s might be a temporary solution should Craig do one more. And given the names mentioned the age gap between Bond and the Bond girls will quickly become an issue unless they cast a much younger Bond.

    The problem right now is that there's no obvious successor. A bit like when Craig was cast actually.

    Why temporary? Could be permanent as well, the future Bond actors will likely be from late 30s to late 40s during their tenure anyway, so it would suit just fine to cast women in there 40s.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    bondsum wrote: »
    I'm assuming you're quite young, @Szonana, however Craig is not. How many Bonds does Craig seriously have left in him before the public start to think he's getting way too old for Bond? People are already calling into question the age gap between his last leading lady and love interest Lea Seydoux, so what are they going to say when the gap widens even more with the next lady? Also, Craig himself can't keep putting his 50-year-old body through the rigours of action scenes without it having a long term impact on his health. Barbara is going to have to bite the bullet sooner or later, and it might as well be now. Most of us remember the fiasco of Cubby not letting a creaking Roger Moore go for the very same reasons you state BB is scared about replacing DC. I honestly hope Barbara knows when to move on and find another suitable candidate and not draw out Craig's final swan song for another ten bloody years! If she honestly can't find a replacement for the here and now (and I think she can) then she shouldn't be in the business.

    Like I've pointed out before, they're still negotiating a replacement for Sony, so until that's finalised we're not going to get any details about Bond 25.


    I understand Craig is cant stay forever as Bond and Barbara at some point will have to make a desicion but the lack of good candidates i guess is what is making her wait for Craig a little longer.
    Let's hope it won't happen that he overstays his welcome and she stays just for fear like yes Cubby once did with Moore. I just feel like her patience for him comes from not finding his replacement yet.

    If we have learned something with Bond is that no one is irreplaceable as great as Craig was some day will see someone better than him.

  • Tuulia wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    People are already calling into question the age gap between his last leading lady and love interest Lea Seydoux, so what are they going to say when the gap widens even more with the next lady?

    Eeh... that doesn't actually depend on the Bond actor's age, you know, it depends on casting decisions. It's not that Craig was too old in Spectre, Seydoux was too young. Even if the Bond actor was 35 and they then cast an 18 year old as the love interest, the age gap would be just as big. However, there is no need for these huge age gaps. They could always cast women who aren't so young they could be the leading man's daughter. I know it's a novel and quite a radical idea for Hollywood, but hey...

    I think you're on the wrong boards with that attitude. Bond should have young attractive females. 40 or above is wrong and should only ever be a minor shag like Belluci, although imo that scene was purely to have her name in the film and cause a discussion.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Some of the sexiest and talented actresses in Hollywood today are 40+ and would make excellent Bond girls.

    Katheryn Winnick who's sexy as hell and is dominating on the show Vikings will be 39 in December; and she's my front runner to be the next Bond girl.


  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited August 2016 Posts: 5,131
    bondsum wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I don't agree that Hiddle has a nice voice. I much prefer Aidan Turner's voice.

    Hiddleston's voice captures the Eton-esque/ Fettes (Public School boy) tone (and English charm) that will work for Bond (which an American audience will love). Turner....well.....doesn't.
    Then the Americans must really have disliked all the previous Bonds then, as none of them has this magical posh accent you claim they're going to lap up with Hiddles.

    They were all well spoken (even if 'put on')....Moore especially. But yes, Hiddles accent could be the best of the bunch. If I'm honest though, American's can't really tell one English accent from another....so you could be right.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2016 Posts: 23,883
    bondsum wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Whatever one may say about Moore, the man had the natural smooth charm even in his later years, which compensated for his lack of physical prowess.

    I'd like to see more of that natural silky smoothness in the next Bond actor.
    Clearly you weren't around whenMR, FYEO, OP and AVTAK were doing the rounds in the cinemas then, @bondjames. People went to Bond movies to laugh at Moore in the role, not to appreciate his natural smooth charm, much like they did the idiots down Colney Hatch; it had become a sad spectators sport to jeer and deride Bond by this point. Not that the producers/writers/director weren't above ridiculing their own product themselves. They seemed to enjoy heaping more coals on the fire and fanning the flames of Bond's self-destruction more than anyone.

    I do think there are some here that have a romantic memory of the older Moore Bond movies, that weren't old enough to understand just how far Bond had sunk from his glorious heights, and how audiences just wanted to see another Moore 007 Comedy when buying a ticket. Most of the real fans had given up on there ever being a serious Bond movie ever again. My toes curl at any mention of returning to those less than halcyon days and seeing another bloody Roger Moore clone/type Bond. No thank you.
    No @bondsum, sadly GE was my first in theatre Bond experience. I did watch the old Moore Bond films on VHS/TV growing up though, and I am old enough to remember that many felt Moore, while the incumbent, was never as good as Connery.

    My parents (huge Bond fans) love Connery and I always fondly remember their first effort to introduce me to him, in a vain attempt to convince me he was the best. The film was FRWL, and I recall being bored out of my mind watching it for the first time with them, while my mother embarrassingly swooned at his first appearance in the gardens during the pretitles. Needless to say, I've come around to both Connery and the film since then.

    My father firmly believed that Moore was better suited to the Saint. Despite this, he always enjoyed the Moore Bond films. He is not a fan of Lazenby (I don't believe OHMSS was all that popular on release) and doesn't think too highly of Dalton either. He tolerated Brosnan (as did I) and thinks Craig is pretty good, but still thinks Connery is the definitive Bond.

    I'm afraid I must disagree with your scathing assessment of Moore and similarly oppose your views on Hiddles, who I think could make a fine Bond if given the chance.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    edited August 2016 Posts: 814

    No more Craig? I'll be heartbroken, but if Fassbender got the part, I'd be overjoyed. I mean, come on, how can Hiddleston or anyone else measure up?

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  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited August 2016 Posts: 4,116
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Whatever one may say about Moore, the man had the natural smooth charm even in his later years, which compensated for his lack of physical prowess.

    I'd like to see more of that natural silky smoothness in the next Bond actor.
    Clearly you weren't around whenMR, FYEO, OP and AVTAK were doing the rounds in the cinemas then, @bondjames. People went to Bond movies to laugh at Moore in the role, not to appreciate his natural smooth charm, much like they did the idiots down Colney Hatch; it had become a sad spectators sport to jeer and deride Bond by this point. Not that the producers/writers/director weren't above ridiculing their own product themselves. They seemed to enjoy heaping more coals on the fire and fanning the flames of Bond's self-destruction more than anyone.

    I do think there are some here that have a romantic memory of the older Moore Bond movies, that weren't old enough to understand just how far Bond had sunk from his glorious heights, and how audiences just wanted to see another Moore 007 Comedy when buying a ticket. Most of the real fans had given up on there ever being a serious Bond movie ever again. My toes curl at any mention of returning to those less than halcyon days and seeing another bloody Roger Moore clone/type Bond. No thank you.
    No @bondsum, sadly GE was my first in theatre Bond experience. I did watch the old Moore Bond films on VHS/TV growing up though, and I am old enough to remember that many felt Moore, while the incumbent, was never as good as Connery.

    My parents (huge Bond fans) love Connery and I always fondly remember their first effort to introduce me to him, in a vain attempt to convince me he was the best. The film was FRWL, and I recall being bored out of my mind watching it for the first time with them, while my mother embarrassingly swooned at his first appearance in the gardens during the pretitles. Needless to say, I've come around to both Connery and the film since then.

    My father firmly believed that Moore was better suited to the Saint. Despite this, he always enjoyed the Moore Bond films. He is not a fan of Lazenby (I don't believe OHMSS was all that popular on release) and doesn't think too highly of Dalton either. He tolerated Brosnan (as did I) and thinks Craig is pretty good, but still thinks Connery is the definitive Bond.

    I'm afraid I must disagree with your scathing assessment of Moore and similarly oppose your views on Hiddles, who I think could make a fine Bond if given the chance.

    That was exactly my parent's opinion.
    Moore is my sentimental favorite. Moore kept Bond alive.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I agree @mcdonbb. I love the guy, although I can understand why many have a different opinion, since he redefined the film character in many ways. One could say there is still a fervent RogerMooreisnotBond crowd out there, who will never forgive him for that.
  • RC7RC7
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    Moore is God to me.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited August 2016 Posts: 15,423
    RC7 wrote: »
    Moore is God to me.
    I can definitely understand that. Because he is to me, too, in a way. :D
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Some of the sexiest and talented actresses in Hollywood today are 40+ and would make excellent Bond girls.

    Katheryn Winnick who's sexy as hell and is dominating on the show Vikings will be 39 in December; and she's my front runner to be the next Bond girl.
    Well said! And yes, I always wanted Katheryn Winnick for Bond. And damn, she's sensational in every sense!
  • Posts: 15,125
    Tuulia wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I always thought Craig was a very convincing seducer as Bond. RE the age gap: going for Bond girls in say their 40s might be a temporary solution should Craig do one more. And given the names mentioned the age gap between Bond and the Bond girls will quickly become an issue unless they cast a much younger Bond.

    The problem right now is that there's no obvious successor. A bit like when Craig was cast actually.

    Why temporary? Could be permanent as well, the future Bond actors will likely be from late 30s to late 40s during their tenure anyway, so it would suit just fine to cast women in there 40s.

    Temporary regarding Craig's age should he remain in the role for Bond 25.

    And let's not forget that Lucia Sciarra was played by a 50 year old actress.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I'd prefer some younger Bond girls TBH. If a Bond actor is impacting that important casting requirement, then he should be sacked imho.
  • Posts: 15,125
    bondjames wrote: »
    I'd prefer some younger Bond girls TBH. If a Bond actor is impacting that important casting requirement, then he should be sacked imho.

    Me too but then we'll need a relatively young Bond actor. If they keep Craig for one more then they should cast Bond girls accordingly.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    @bondjames, what do you call this, really? Would you pass on this one, old chap? :>
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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Kathryn Winnick is of an age and has a look that compliments both a 30 and 40 something year old or Bond actor.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Oh indeed she does!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    @ClarkDevlin, there are always exceptions to the rule, and Katheryn Winnick (38) is certainly one of them, as was Maud Adams in OP. No, I can't say I'd pass up on this. Quite the contrary actually. I'd be all over it like a fat kid on cake.
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    No more Craig? I'll be heartbroken, but if Fassbender got the part, I'd be overjoyed. I mean, come on, how can Hiddleston or anyone else measure up?

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    Honestly I would love fassbender the only issue is he might just be Craig 2.0 which I would love others might not

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