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He was still depicted as a man in his 30s. And often fought older villains.
What standards? Who'se setting them?
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Face it, you've missed your chance to be Bond. Is this what all this is about lol?
Mate, I'm only 22. I'd shoot anyone who'd try to cast me as Bond at this stage... Unless I'm playing a Young Bond, that I don't mind. ;)
Good point, I'm sure. I haven't seen most of those movies so I can't comment on the actors' suitability age-wise to their roles, but those that I have seen I had no issues with whatsoever on that front.
However, you have quite a big age range there, and that harms your overall argument a bit I think. Might have just kept the 50-somethings and 60-somethings there. I mean, Matt Damon is only 45... soon 46, but anyway - no way "elderly" (ehem) at all. I don't think anyone was saying people in their 40s are too old for that type of roles. ;)
And I'm pretty sure they aren't insane, and so they wouldn't. :P I mean why on earth ould they be upset by that anyway? They are middle aged and have been for quite some time, and besides, it isn't an insult to refer to a middle aged person as middle aged - it doesn't imply some sort of disability or weakness. The age-PC-ness can get so silly.
Really? Is he? I very much doubt it, but anyway I haven't seen him called that before, and I admit I don't even know what that really means. I'm immediately thinking of Stanislavski and Strasberg and sense memory and so on, and I suspect you probably meant something else. Most people do. Which leaves me constantly confused by what anyone means when they use that term. :)
Got me!
Yes but we are not only talking about health and fitness. Bond is also Bond in relation to other people.
Monica Bellucci notwithstanding would we be having such debate about the Bond girl? A Bond girl in her 60s anyone?
Although I would have preferred if Moore had started his tenure as Bond earlier (he moved much better during the Saint years and had more muscle on him too), I found him to be more than adequate in his first few Bond films.
The same goes for Cruise. I wouldn't have wanted anyone else playing Hunt in the last two MI films in particular. He puts the younger Renner to shame.
So it all depends on the actor, which is my point. Generally speaking, you are correct of course. I'm thinking more of the exceptions, and don't want them excluded from consideration purely on age.
And let's face it, I'm not trying to be sexist here or anything if my statement is to be taken out of context. But, the Bond Girl is to attract while serving as a key in the plot. And I haven't had any complaints about Monica Bellucci, nor would I have a problem with a woman in her 40s or 50s being cast as a Bond Girl. There are lots of actresses in that period of age who are more than attractive than some models in their 20s.
Once an actor starts to look too old for Bond, then yes, perhaps they shouldn't come onto younger women. I believe that started with Moore around the time of FYEO, and that is why they played it coolly, with Melina basically being the one to offer herself up and then only at the very end. OP worked because Adams was more age appropriate. AVTAK didn't and I'm one who strongly believes Roger shouldn't have made that film.
These are actors at the end of the day. They should be able to act. Once that credibility is lost for whatever reason, then they must be replaced, or the narrative must be changed to accommodate their years (as happened with Moore).
I didn't find Grant to be creepy in North by Northwest acting opposite Marie-Saint.
Couldn't agree more with it. And lets say our new guy is not that great in action well, there are always stunt men, Pierce used them quite often and still in my opinion was a great Bond.
As many mention here, Statham and Cruise for example still look and move essentially like they did 10 years ago, despite their advancing years. Cruise in MI-RN is a force of nature and I've heard the same about Statham in Mechanic-Resurrection. No doubt they will both hit that tipping point rather soon given their respective ages, but until that time, I'm ok with them seducing and doing whatever they want to on screen, because they are still believable and credible despite their age.
This entire post is brilliant, spot on.