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Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    He looks like a cross between Connery and Lazenby.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    He does indeed.

    He had the physique for it as well,shame.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    ach come on, ten minutes into that film and all we get is a bland boring person. Yes, he has a very good voice, but he walks like a plank rather than a panther. Not too convinced about his looks too. And that film is rightfully forgotten. Sorry, it's not personal, just don't agree.. ;-)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Blame Lindsey Shonteff (or whatever his name is) for the poor direction. Adams has charisma in lots of films and TV shows. ;)
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    hahaha I'll take your word for it, I'm not impressed. and indeed, the direction and cinematography of this film are terrible. Says something about Bond though, that people were willing to put money into such a bad spoof.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    hahaha I'll take your word for it, I'm not impressed. and indeed, the direction and cinematography of this film are terrible. Says something about Bond though, that people were willing to put money into such a bad spoof.
    @CommanderRoss, if you think that was bad enough, don't go for the 1970s spiritual sequels at all. :))



    Those B-Movies and the "cash-in" installments to capitalize on the popularity of Bond.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    To be honest, that guy is far more convincing! And so is the girl at 8.10 in this clip...

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    The scene I marked at 34:31 is the one that stands out for me in the film...

  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Hmm, I understand what you're getting at, but I'm not impressed much, sorry. He does a decent job, but tbh, I find lazenby bringing more life into the film. He walks better too. This Tom Adams has his moments perhaps, and yes I like his voice, but it isn't enough.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    You never know. I'd say it's down to the director. Lazenby never acted before but look at how naturally, for a first-timer, he blended in to the role. He owes it to Peter Hunt. Imagine what Hunt could've done with Adams.

    I mean, certainly... He has some sort of finesse here in the posture...

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  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    You never know. I'd say it's down to the director. Lazenby never acted before but look at how naturally, for a first-timer, he blended in to the role. He owes it to Peter Hunt. Imagine what Hunt could've done with Adams.

    I mean, certainly... He has some sort of finesse here in the posture...

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    As did Young with Connery. But credit where credit is due, Conner's was very, very talented as well. Who knows what Lazenby could've done........

    So yes, sure, the director plays his part too (pun unintended), but is it such a big part? It's a nice thought though.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Sure glad we got Lazenby instead.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Not that I'm championing Craig to leave but I really can't wait for the day Bond actor no.7 is cast, just for the reaction of members here alone.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Not that I'm championing Craig to leave but I really can't wait for the day Bond actor no.7 is cast, just for the reaction of members here alone.

    Yes, I imagine many will be terribly upset!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Not that I'm championing Craig to leave but I really can't wait for the day Bond actor no.7 is cast, just for the reaction of members here alone.

    Yes, I imagine many will be terribly upset!

    That; and I also predict some 180 degree back tracking on candidates. Regardless, it's going to be entertaining to read.
  • RevelatorRevelator
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    The Guardian has reacted to the Lumley/Elba controversy in its usual manner:
    Joanna Lumley is right: Idris Elba shouldn’t play Bond – in fact, no one should
    by Caspar Salmon

    An emotionless character that belongs to a grotesque tradition should be shelved, and all speculation over who should play him needs to end.

    In an interview with the Radio Times this week, actor, documentarian, campaigner and city planner Joanna Lumley opined that Idris Elba, long rumoured to be the next James Bond, should not play the role as he does not fit Ian Fleming’s original description of the character.

    In this Joanna Lumley is correct, although perhaps unintentionally so. What would Bond look like, if he had actually existed and been allowed to age? Bond scholars have it that the character would have been born in 1920 or 1921, educated at Eton and Fettes College, later doing a stint in the navy, famously racist, sexist and homophobic, and given to emitting embarrassing quips at the most inopportune moments. Which means that Bond, if he were alive today, would be 96 and look exactly like Prince Philip. The similarities between the two men are astonishing when you pause to look at them: same year of birth, public schooling and international education, military background, and a lifetime spent in unquestioning service to the queen. The two men’s best one-liners are routinely anthologised by tabloids and lads’ mags. The only significant difference between the two men is that Prince Philip has had the decency finally to retire.

    As for a physical description of his hero, Fleming calls his protagonist handsome while noting, somewhat contradictorily, that he resembles the singer Hoagy Carmichael. There we have it: Bond, such as he was described in a series of books written by a white man in the 60s, does not resemble Elba, a black man born in the 70s. Lumley, who was born to another pre-war, patriotic, military James (Major James Rutherford Lumley), in India, in the last year of British colonial rule, called it right.

    Lumley presumably holds this view because she cherishes the character, and the old-school British values of heroism and masculinity it connotes, and wants the actor playing him to be authentic. On the other hand, you could argue that if Elba cannot play a character, because he is too modern, too black, not upper-class enough, then the character should be shelved, much like his Highness the Duke of Edinburgh. We don’t need any more Bond films. We now know, in fact – not least because Bond is hero-worshipped by Piers Morgan – that the character is toxic.

    Bond belongs to a grotesque tradition, born of British Empire, of separating boys from their parents at a very young age to send them to be bullied and sometimes raped in public schools, in order to toughen them up. This results in Bond’s terrifying, emotionless nihilism, or the give-a-shit rudeness of Prince Philip. Philip Larkin surely had this tradition in mind when he wrote that “man hands on misery to man”. Elba does not belong to this world and cannot convincingly portray it. The character has been modernised over the years, particularly since Jason Bourne came along to make Pierce Brosnan’s bouffant look (more) preposterous; but in essence, the character stands for an idea of empire, of British heroism, that is rooted in very specific socio-historical circumstances.

    Can Elba play a handsome, exciting, sexy British spy? Damn right. But this would be to unclaw the character and sanitise his hideous, harmful trappings. Therefore, if Elba does not have the right profile to play a dinosaur, it seems obvious that we shouldn’t update the dinosaur, but consign it to history: let us shelve Bond as the museum artifact that he is, write Elba any number of other roles, and talk of 007 no more.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Typical sanctimonious drivel.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    So maybe Prince Philip should be the next Bond.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    What pish!
  • RC7RC7
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    I deliberately looked up a picture of him and he's exactly as you'd imagine.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    RC7 wrote: »
    I deliberately looked up a picture of him and he's exactly as you'd imagine.

    p12Nwm8Y.jpg
  • RevelatorRevelator
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    "Toxic" seems to be the big buzzword nowadays--I look forward to the inevitable moment when everyone realizes how overused it is.
    The author seems to have a hard-on of hate for public schools. I'd would just point out that (a) Bond is a public school dropout, and his schooldays were never discussed by Fleming and (b) regardless of the flaws in the public school system, it was synonymous with Britain's height as a world power...which apparently is something the British intelligentsia regard as worse than Nazism and Stalinism rolled into one.
    Nor does Bond really stand for empire--most of his adventures take place outside of the empire and inside tourist destinations. Bond stands for adventure, suaveness, grit, romance, sex, danger, and excitement. Most of those are eternal values. As long as men dream of looking good in a tuxedo and making love to beautiful women and saving the world, Bond will endure, no matter what the Guardian thinks.
  • RC7RC7
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    I deliberately looked up a picture of him and he's exactly as you'd imagine.

    p12Nwm8Y.jpg

    Exactly. Nathan Barley's gender neutral cousin.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    I deliberately looked up a picture of him and he's exactly as you'd imagine.

    p12Nwm8Y.jpg

    Exactly. Nathan Barley's gender neutral cousin.

    A real hipster filled to the brim with hot piss!
  • RC7RC7
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    I deliberately looked up a picture of him and he's exactly as you'd imagine.

    p12Nwm8Y.jpg

    Exactly. Nathan Barley's gender neutral cousin.

    A real hipster filled to the brim with hot piss!

    Good work.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited May 2017 Posts: 10,591
    Probably an SJW.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Who are we talking about, again?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    The author of that vomit-inducing article posted on the previous page.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I didn't bother to read it until just now. What a load of bollocks.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    More:

    http://lwlies.com/articles/obama-era-cinema-star-wars-black-stormtrooper/
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