Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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    Risico007 wrote: »
    so since everyone is Talking turner need I remind people Fassbender and Hardy still exist and both are light years better

    Those two of course, not to mention many other potential candidates who would almost certainly be better.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    so since everyone is Talking turner need I remind people Fassbender and Hardy still exist and both are light years better

    When people talk about obvious choices, those are the ones that come to mind for me. They are both too old and too established. Turner is the pragmatists choice on Bond.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I can understand the love for Fassbender, but Hardy is nothing remotely like a Bond. Not even close. We might as well cast Jason Statham if Hardy is still being considered. Another British actor, after all. ;)
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Turner might surprise us. Given his work so far I remain skeptical.

    Trust me. it's gonna be great.

    He's not even cast yet. So you should say "it would be great". Anyway apart from his fans do we have any indication that he's being seriously considered?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Nope. As far as we know, the only serious consideration for the role right now is none other than Daniel Craig.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @BondJasonBond006 and @MajorDSmythe , just because an actor is physical doesn't mean he can't be charming (on the train with Vesper, seducing Fields, with Severine, and although I didn't like Madeline, nor some of her cringey dialogue, DC exuded charm there as well).
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    dalton wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    so since everyone is Talking turner need I remind people Fassbender and Hardy still exist and both are light years better

    Those two of course, not to mention many other potential candidates who would almost certainly be better.

    Like BB's new darling Jamie Bell of course.
  • RC7RC7
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    I have heard a lot of ridiculous things about Craig. "is as great as Connery" will probably forever be the most grotesque of all of it.

    Charming....doesn't even need a specific comment.

    Just watch Moonraker and then QOS.
    Or Thunderball and then Casino Royale.
    Or GoldenEye and then Skyfall.

    The evidence is there for everyone to see if they choose to.

    It's all a matter of taste though, naturally. I prefer the first 40 years over what has been dished up since 2006. Casino Royale is great and will be a classic like GoldenEye, but it ages now, it'll have its fans always as any of the true classics of each actor have, GF TSWLM GE.

    SPECTRE was a step in the right direction and I hope EON gives us a fifth with Craig that is like it.
    Spectre is a film that could have been made by Cubby. The first completely proper James Bond film since 2002.

    Not long ago you were calling SP a masterpiece. Has that changed? I find your train of thought 'rather difficult to follow'.
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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    It's all subjective, @BondJasonBond006. I have never thought of DC as a Bourne, or as DH. So, in the end, I'm sorry this is how you see the DC era. It's not my intention to change your mind-- I'm just a guy, as I said last night, who has loved these films since I was four. I was allowed to stay up and watch TB with my Dad... And from that day forth, I was truly a Connery man.

    Of course I love OHMSS and enjoyed GL's naivety and almost thoughtless physicality (at times he just seems all legs and arms), and I found, and find, RM unbelievably charming, and an unbelievable assassin for the British Government (apart from a few scenes scattered through his tenure); I do find TD hard to like since, once again, in my opinion, he's a stagey and hammy actor who always seemed pissed off. Brosnan I am up and down with, and the last time I tried my own marathon, I stopped in the middle of TWINE, and failed to watch DAD-- but this had more to do with the scripts/directing; I still admired Brosnan for holding the franchise together.

    When DC came, I was floored. I never thought anyone could rival Connery. And, as I said last night, it was like SC, Fiona and Fleming had an orgy-- what came of it was DC. This is all strictly my opinion and my perspective.

    To me, SP is by far his weakest outing. However, I have found developments in DC's portrayal that has evolved his 007 in ways I don't see in the others; like he is a living, breathing human, who has aged, changed and evolved-- again, in my opinion.

    And, personal opinion again, when I am desperate for a piece of Bond, my choices are immediately the first three DC films, or the first four SC films... My hard wiring, and what i am attracted to in the character, is the rugged bastard, the arrogant, flawed orphan, who can't accept defeat-- perfectly exemplified, I think, in CR, where he's desperately fighting a battle in the sinking house, that he knows, somehow, that he's already lost... but he keeps going anyways...

    And this, above all else, is what I see in DC more than any Bond before him, and; I found this sadly, lacking in SP.

    I suppose we're all looking for something in our Bonds. Whatever it is that SC and DC brought, that, to me, is what this character is all about.
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    Its funny, how all the Woman AN D gays Fell for him, since he is so Not charming. What a ridiculous argument. Plus what was to read everywhere? That he has Tons of charisma and comments the screen, whenever he is on.
    @RC7 dont wonder, he changes his mind all the time.
  • RC7RC7
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    @peter

    Daniel Craig works well enough in CR and QOS.

    My main problem with him is that he has only one or two sequences in each movie where he is completely convincing as James Bond.

    None of the other actors had this problem. They all were 100% Bond from the first second on screen to the very last. It even did never occur to question that.

    I guess it depends on how you define 'Bond'. A lot of people on here haven't read the novels. Does that mean they don't know what Bond is? Not really. It's many things to many people so to flat out say he isn't Bond is disingenuous. Bond is what you want it to be.
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    Bond is what you want it to be. Sure. But CR and especially QOS and SF showed a completely new, different side. That's two films, or three. Out of 24.

    So for now my take on what Bond should be like overall, is what worked for 40 years and not what EON decided to show us in two and a half films. And after all they went back to the formula with SPECTRE didn't they?
    Bond as a character and his films weren't even remotely consistent in the previous 40 years. They showed us something new fairly often. Craig's Bond is simply yet another take on the character, just as legitimate as the rest.
    Anyway, I never made a secret that I have my problems with the current era. Before I lose myself too much in negativity (something I actually hate) I'll close with this:
    Could have fooled me.
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    Well said @Milovy.

    As you said, there have been many different takes on Bond over the first 40 years. Certainly the Bond that Connery portrayed can't be viewed as stylistically similar to Rambo-Bond that we got from TND through the end of Brosnan's tenure. And both differ quite a bit from Moore's tongue-in-cheek and one raised eyebrow take on the character.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    The exception is SPECTRE. Say what you will about the film, but what Craig delivers there is simply irresistible, breathtaking and fantastic.
    Irresistible, breathtaking and also fantastic? Wow. I may have to endure the film one more time to see if I may have missed somethinig.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    The exception is SPECTRE. Say what you will about the film, but what Craig delivers there is simply irresistible, breathtaking and fantastic.
    Irresistible, breathtaking and also fantastic? Wow. I may have to endure the film one more time to see if I may have missed somethinig.

    I must have missed it as well. SPECTRE is the only Bond film that I can't sit through. Even SKYFALL, a Bond film that I do have some issues with, I can have some fun with mainly due to Craig being so good in the role. That, and much more, is absent from SPECTRE, a film that falls flat on its face in so many respects it's actually quite amazing.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    The exception is SPECTRE. Say what you will about the film, but what Craig delivers there is simply irresistible, breathtaking and fantastic.
    Irresistible, breathtaking and also fantastic? Wow. I may have to endure the film one more time to see if I may have missed somethinig.

    It's all a matter of perspective. It's his one performance that evokes Moore, Brosnan and even Connery for me.

    Honestly, I went to see it 13 times and in all of the first five or six viewings, people actually were standing up! and clapping their hands in joy during the PTS, the train fight, the plane chase and the final battle.

    Not to mention the Swiss premiere where I was lucky enough to be in the VIP section. This kind of response for a film must be any producer's dream come true.
    But yes, that's us Swiss.
    I'm disappointed to see comparisons to Moore & Connery and even Brosnan (in DAD at least). That's not to take anything away from Craig's earlier efforts. As I said, I think he hit it out of the park in CR, saved QoS, and played the cynical spy very well in SF. That's about it.

    Your theatre experience was quite different from mine. I've never seen such a sombre group of people running for the exits after it finished.

    Yes, I'm sure the VIP thing may have influenced your perspective. Didn't you see it in some high class restaurant/hotel theatre? I seem to recall a really cool theatre experence?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Your theatre experience was quite different from mine. I've never seen such a sombre group of people running for the exits after it finished.

    Sounds similar to mine. There was quite a bit of silence as people shuffled out. Upon a first viewing, I felt OK about the film, as I have for every Bond film the first time through (including DAD), but it was a pretty somber mood leaving the theater. My dad, a lifelong Bond fan going back to the beginning, seemed pretty disappointed with it, considering that it was probably the last Bond film he'll be able to see in a theater.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    dalton wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Your theatre experience was quite different from mine. I've never seen such a sombre group of people running for the exits after it finished.

    Sounds similar to mine. There was quite a bit of silence as people shuffled out. Upon a first viewing, I felt OK about the film, as I have for every Bond film the first time through (including DAD), but it was a pretty somber mood leaving the theater. My dad, a lifelong Bond fan going back to the beginning, seemed pretty disappointed with it, considering that it was probably the last Bond film he'll be able to see in a theater.
    My dad is a lifelong fan and an original too. He didn't mind it (surprisingly) but was unhappy with the continuity aspects. He couldn't remember all the linkages and asked me why they keep doing this nowadays. It was a good question, for which I had no answer.
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    @bondjames

    That high class restaurant/hotel was my second viewing. The first was the official Swiss Premiere in a VIP section. Naomie Harris and Bautista were there as well.
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    I don't think mine cared one way or the other about the continuity aspect of the film. Or maybe he just didn't notice it, given how flimsy all of that is in the film. He's not one who is going to a film looking for high art or anything like that. A good, solid 90-120 minutes of mindless fun would be right up his alley, regardless of whatever suspension of disbelief is required.

    I don't think the Blofeld angle or the odd mix of Craig trying to be more of a Roger Moore-inspired Bond in a story that's very much a Craig-Bond story sat well with him. Like I do now, ultimately I think he just found it boring on top of everything else, though.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    That high class restaurant/hotel was my second viewing. The first was the official Swiss Premiere in a VIP section. Naomie Harris and Bautista were there as well.
    Nice @BondJasonBond006. I'm sure I too would have positive feelings about the film if I had a chance to get up close with some of the stars. That's great.
  • Here's a name that hasn't been mentioned before to consider (or more likely shoot down).

    Luke Roberts is best known to UK viewers for his stint in Holby City but his career trajectory since then makes me wonder why he spent so long in that show. A part in the BBC's acclaimed Wolf Hall was followed by a small but memorable role in Game Of Thrones. Earlier this year he proved a worthy foe for Toby Stephen's pirate in Season 3 of Black Sails. Currently Roberts is headlining the US hostage drama Ransom, the future of which is uncertain at the moment.

    From what I've seen of him Roberts is a decent actor who can do confidence and charm with ease although I'm less sure whether he has the physicality required for Bond. He has the height but at 39 time is not on his side.

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    Looks similar to Dalton imo....interesting.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Not bad. A very interesting choice. And he does look mature enough.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Decent.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Looks similar to Dalton imo....interesting.

    Yes, I think I see that as well. Especially in these two:
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    In that latter one, he gives of that wolfish vibe.
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