Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    In today’s climate, would being a “womanizer” be a strike against him.
    This begs the question, in order not to be blindsided by a transgression or accusation, how deeply will EON delve into the private life of a potential Bond .
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    talos7 wrote: »
    In today’s climate, would being a “womanizer” be a strike against him.
    This begs the question, in order not to be blindsided by a transgression or accusation, how deeply will EON delve into the private life of a potential Bond .

    that comment misunderstands what has driven #metoo

    just because someone has bedded lots women does not mean they're about to be trashed or condemned for their behaviour. as long as whatever he did was genuinely consensual and he wasn't abusing his power then i doubt anyone cares what he's done.

    I'm sure his star status will have helped him along the way with the ladies and nothing wrong with that as long as he's not setting up sexual favours as a gateway to accessing contacts and casting opportunities.

    I think he looks slightly odd personally and perhaps the least conventionally good looking of the names being cast around. I've only seen him in Cinderella where he was fine but that perhaps wasn't the best showcase for his talents
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Getafix wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    In today’s climate, would being a “womanizer” be a strike against him.
    This begs the question, in order not to be blindsided by a transgression or accusation, how deeply will EON delve into the private life of a potential Bond .

    that comment misunderstands what has driven #metoo

    just because someone has bedded lots women does not mean they're about to be trashed or condemned for their behaviour. as long as whatever he did was genuinely consensual and he wasn't abusing his power then i doubt anyone cares what he's done.

    I'm sure his star status will have helped him along the way with the ladies and nothing wrong with that as long as he's not setting up sexual favours as a gateway to accessing contacts and casting opportunities.

    I think he looks slightly odd personally and perhaps the least conventionally good looking of the names being cast around. I've only seen him in Cinderella where he was fine but that perhaps wasn't the best showcase for his talents

    No, actually your comment misunderstands and misrepresents mine; it also injects the #metoo movement when it was not the focus.
    As far as what constitutes consent, as time passes, that becomes a great area; what was a consensual seduction in the past could now be considered inappropriate or even assault.

    We live in a world where sensitivites go beyond obvious, intentional or actual sexual transgressions and offenses.
    My point is that the powers that be are going want to know as much as they can about an actor’s background.
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    fair enough.

    I personally don't think it's a problem if those in positions of power within any industry are held to account.

    if Madden has done something that deeply transgressed some boundary or abused his position of power then it would be better to know about it before he was cast.

    but the fact he's slept with lots of women does not in itself represent a problem for anyone I think despite some of the hysteria and overreaction around recent events.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Getafix wrote: »
    fair enough.


    but the fact he's slept with lots of women does not in itself represent a problem for anyone I think despite some of the hysteria and overreaction around recent events.

    Absolutely...

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    NicNac wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure Barnes been mentioned before. I've not been overly impressed (something a bit Timothy Olyphant'ish about him) but he does have a certain style to him.

    https://www.cbr.com/ben-barnes-next-james-bond/

    Have never heard about the guy before. Might be older photos, but he sure doesn't look 37!
    I've only seen him in Westworld and The Punisher. He does look good for his age, but gives of a bit of a devious vibe. I'm not sure if he would be likable enough.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I had previously dismissed him after seeing him with Elba in The Take (aka Bastille Day).

    However, he seems to have beefed up a little and has more maturity to him now, at least based on the clip below. He'll do the rounds for a while on account of this, no doubt. Show looks good.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/24/the-bodyguard-preview-watch-richard-madden-being-james-bond-af-in-first-scene-from-line-of-duty-writers-new-drama-7879365/

    Well Madden sure looks beefed up in these pics. I guess I owe him an apology : he does not need a claymore and a beard to look manly. That says he looks like a young Arnie.

    I'm not convinced but because I'm a fan of Robb Stark I am open.
    I agree. He's a bit short and like Craig may have to put on the muscle in order to be convincingly lethal if selected. While that's perhaps ok in another series, I'd rather a future Bond have the height and physical stature so as not to have to resort to these techniques.

    He looks a bit too buff/rough for my taste. If people complain Craig is not refined enough I wonder what they'd think of Madden. Although it is a different character so his demeanour as Bond might change this perception.
    Did you see Richard Madden in Game of Thrones @Ludovico? He didn’t have his Scottish accent in that, so I don’t see a problem in him losing the regional accent again if he was fortunate enough to be cast as 007. Judging by the recent photo below, he certainly looks more rugged than he did previously. He’s currently aged 32 which is the right age, but sadly only 5’ 10”.

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    Watching The Bodyguard this guy has the presence and charisma to pull it off. You can never really tell just looking at photos of random actors on this thread, you really need to see them in action.

    Watching Madden, I can see him as a very credible Bond when the part comes up for grabs in 2-3 years.

    I'm loving the Bodyguard and I think Madden would be perfect as Bond. Charisma and presence, he has them. Besides, he is Scottish and we know that has good precedent in the series.
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    Univex wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure Barnes been mentioned before. I've not been overly impressed (something a bit Timothy Olyphant'ish about him) but he does have a certain style to him.

    https://www.cbr.com/ben-barnes-next-james-bond/

    Have never heard about the guy before. Might be older photos, but he sure doesn't look 37!
    I've only seen him in Westworld and The Punisher. He does look good for his age, but gives of a bit of a devious vibe. I'm not sure if he would be likable enough.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I had previously dismissed him after seeing him with Elba in The Take (aka Bastille Day).

    However, he seems to have beefed up a little and has more maturity to him now, at least based on the clip below. He'll do the rounds for a while on account of this, no doubt. Show looks good.

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/24/the-bodyguard-preview-watch-richard-madden-being-james-bond-af-in-first-scene-from-line-of-duty-writers-new-drama-7879365/

    Well Madden sure looks beefed up in these pics. I guess I owe him an apology : he does not need a claymore and a beard to look manly. That says he looks like a young Arnie.

    I'm not convinced but because I'm a fan of Robb Stark I am open.
    I agree. He's a bit short and like Craig may have to put on the muscle in order to be convincingly lethal if selected. While that's perhaps ok in another series, I'd rather a future Bond have the height and physical stature so as not to have to resort to these techniques.

    He looks a bit too buff/rough for my taste. If people complain Craig is not refined enough I wonder what they'd think of Madden. Although it is a different character so his demeanour as Bond might change this perception.
    Did you see Richard Madden in Game of Thrones @Ludovico? He didn’t have his Scottish accent in that, so I don’t see a problem in him losing the regional accent again if he was fortunate enough to be cast as 007. Judging by the recent photo below, he certainly looks more rugged than he did previously. He’s currently aged 32 which is the right age, but sadly only 5’ 10”.

    4F26F27500000578-6071989-image-m-3_1534530900756.jpg

    Watching The Bodyguard this guy has the presence and charisma to pull it off. You can never really tell just looking at photos of random actors on this thread, you really need to see them in action.

    Watching Madden, I can see him as a very credible Bond when the part comes up for grabs in 2-3 years.

    I'm loving the Bodyguard and I think Madden would be perfect as Bond. Charisma and presence, he has them. Besides, he is Scottish and we know that has good precedent in the series.

    Yeah it's solid, honest British drama.

    Regarding Madden's type of beauty he's got a more conventional one than Craig. Maybe it's a more modern one than the other Bond.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I see alot of hate out there nowadays, but if Tom Hardy was ever became Bond, I feel we would be in save hands. Not my first choice, but at the same time, I haven't seen a movie I didn't like him in. Clearly has the masculinity to be Bond.
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    I see alot of hate out there nowadays, but if Tom Hardy was ever became Bond, I feel we would be in save hands. Not my first choice, but at the same time, I haven't seen a movie I didn't like him in. Clearly has the masculinity to be Bond.

    I'm a bit indifferent when it comes to Hardy. Not the most Bondian look-wise, and I can understand those who doesn't want to see him as Bond at all – but if he was to get cast, I wouldn't be against it completely.

    What would have been perfect though, is having Hardy play a physical and unpleasant main villain – perhaps even a British main villain?
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    don't the all over body tats rule him out?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Getafix wrote: »
    don't the all over body tats rule him out?

    While extensive, they can realistically cover them if needed.

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    makes me think of the final scene of the first Austin powers movie
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Hardy isn't suitable for Bond in the slightest. I repeat myself a lot on this, but he's a nightclub bouncer at best. I'll never understand the desire some have for him to become Bond. Sure, he's a great actor, but that doesn't automatically make him suitable for Bond.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Getafix wrote: »
    makes me think of the final scene of the first Austin powers movie
    :D


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    Hardy isn't suitable for Bond in the slightest. I repeat myself a lot on this, but he's a nightclub bouncer at best. I'll never understand the desire some have for him to become Bond. Sure, he's a great actor, but that doesn't automatically make him suitable for Bond.

    people said the same thing about Craig. some still do!

    I'm not a huge hardy fan but I prefer him over some lightweight like Cavill. his raf pilot in Dunkirk made me more sympathetic to him and Taboo is pretty good - held together really by his performance.

    I wonder though whether he's not going to be too old by the time they recast.



  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I do see a huge amount of difference between Craig and Hardy. Craig at least has seen refinement throughout and isn't quite bouncer-looking as some people love to exaggerate in any form. He's a former-SAS/SBS type who kept in shape and has now embodied the role. Hardy, on the other hand, portrayed Bond-type characters many times before and he was far from convincing, most notably in This Means War and Inception. I could see him play a Marine or a Special Forces type operator or a team-leading commander in the armed forces. But, Bond is something that doesn't become him.

    Cavill isn't the greatest actor out there and the chances are nil that he'll pick up the role. But, if it were down to him and the rest of the suggestions made in here, I'll pick Cavill in a heartbeat. He just needs a good director to lead him through.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Maybe its because he wasn't playing Bond in "this means war", it was a comedy. I don't know why people see Inception as Hardy trying to be Bondian, I never got that impression. Isn't he like the safecracker expert on the team?

    I also don't think Hardy has any problem looking/acting refined when he needs to. The man scrubs up good.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    He was playing a Bond pastiche, not Bond. The attitudes all showcased why he isn't suitable and wouldn't pass.
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    I do see a huge amount of difference between Craig and Hardy. Craig at least has seen refinement throughout and isn't quite bouncer-looking as some people love to exaggerate in any form. He's a former-SAS/SBS type who kept in shape and has now embodied the role. Hardy, on the other hand, portrayed Bond-type characters many times before and he was far from convincing, most notably in This Means War and Inception. I could see him play a Marine or a Special Forces type operator or a team-leading commander in the armed forces. But, Bond is something that doesn't become him.

    Cavill isn't the greatest actor out there and the chances are nil that he'll pick up the role. But, if it were down to him and the rest of the suggestions made in here, I'll pick Cavill in a heartbeat. He just needs a good director to lead him through.

    i would put cavill's chances as higher than nil. he came second to Craig for CR. he was Campbell and MGWs choice I think. and EON has a history of going back to second choices or guys they've had their eye on for years.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Getafix wrote: »
    I do see a huge amount of difference between Craig and Hardy. Craig at least has seen refinement throughout and isn't quite bouncer-looking as some people love to exaggerate in any form. He's a former-SAS/SBS type who kept in shape and has now embodied the role. Hardy, on the other hand, portrayed Bond-type characters many times before and he was far from convincing, most notably in This Means War and Inception. I could see him play a Marine or a Special Forces type operator or a team-leading commander in the armed forces. But, Bond is something that doesn't become him.

    Cavill isn't the greatest actor out there and the chances are nil that he'll pick up the role. But, if it were down to him and the rest of the suggestions made in here, I'll pick Cavill in a heartbeat. He just needs a good director to lead him through.

    i would put cavill's chances as higher than nil. he came second to Craig for CR. he was Campbell and MGWs choice I think. and EON has a history of going back to second choices or guys they've had their eye on for years.
    Yes, but that's not the same Eon as it was Cubby's. And besides, Cavill isn't Babs' type of actor.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    He was playing a Bond pastiche, not Bond. The attitudes all showcased why he isn't suitable and wouldn't pass.

    Eh? If he was playing a pastiche, why do you think that's how he would approach the real thing?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    He was playing a Bond pastiche, not Bond. The attitudes all showcased why he isn't suitable and wouldn't pass.

    Eh? If he was playing a pastiche, why do you think that's how he would approach the real thing?
    Some things don’t magically change. His Bond would be written for him to suit his strengths, and that would be drifting the character further from the source material to a point he won’t be identified as Bond.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I don't like Hardy one bit. He mumbles too much or puts on hard to understand voices in the majority of the films I've seen him in.
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    he wouldn't have got that far if Babs totally hated him. he was a real contender. plus if the younger Wilson's begin to have more say who knows.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I don't like Hardy one bit. He mumbles too much or puts on hard to understand voices in the majority of the films I've seen him in.
    Yep. And besides, he plays the same character every time just like Jason Statham. There’s no chance in hell we’ll see an absolutely different persona from him on the screen that accommodates the needs of portraying Bond.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I don't like Hardy one bit. He mumbles too much or puts on hard to understand voices in the majority of the films I've seen him in.
    Yep. And besides, he plays the same character every time just like Jason Statham. There’s no chance in hell we’ll see an absolutely different persona from him on the screen that accommodates the needs of portraying Bond.

    Not to mention he's a little too cockney for Bond.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I don't like Hardy one bit. He mumbles too much or puts on hard to understand voices in the majority of the films I've seen him in.
    Yep. And besides, he plays the same character every time just like Jason Statham. There’s no chance in hell we’ll see an absolutely different persona from him on the screen that accommodates the needs of portraying Bond.
    Not to mention he's a little too cockney for Bond.
    Absolutely.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I don't like Hardy one bit. He mumbles too much or puts on hard to understand voices in the majority of the films I've seen him in.
    Yep. And besides, he plays the same character every time just like Jason Statham. There’s no chance in hell we’ll see an absolutely different persona from him on the screen that accommodates the needs of portraying Bond.

    Not to mention he's a little too cockney for Bond.

    Good job he's an actor then. He's also not enough of a secret agent for Bond, but he can pretend. That's what actors do.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I don't like Hardy one bit. He mumbles too much or puts on hard to understand voices in the majority of the films I've seen him in.
    Yep. And besides, he plays the same character every time just like Jason Statham. There’s no chance in hell we’ll see an absolutely different persona from him on the screen that accommodates the needs of portraying Bond.

    Not to mention he's a little too cockney for Bond.

    Good job he's an actor then. He's also not enough of a secret agent for Bond, but he can pretend. That's what actors do.
    I knew someone would bring this exact sentiment up. And no, some actors just don’t get out of their own image. Hardy is that type of an actor. Always playing himself.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I don't like Hardy one bit. He mumbles too much or puts on hard to understand voices in the majority of the films I've seen him in.
    Yep. And besides, he plays the same character every time just like Jason Statham. There’s no chance in hell we’ll see an absolutely different persona from him on the screen that accommodates the needs of portraying Bond.

    Not to mention he's a little too cockney for Bond.

    Good job he's an actor then. He's also not enough of a secret agent for Bond, but he can pretend. That's what actors do.

    I still wouldn't choose him if I had a gun to my head. =))
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