Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    boldfinger wrote: »
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    skropper13 wrote: »
    Charlie Hunnam should be the next bond, that is all

    He’s a wooden actor I’m afraid. His attempt to launch a franchise as a lead actor with King Arthur bombed badly...... a major box office flop. He has presence....but he’s an awful actor.
    His attempt to launch a Franchise?

    Originally, the film was meant to be the first in a six-film franchise, but the planned sequels were cancelled after it underperformed at the box office and lost Warner Bros. and Village Roadshow Pictures over $150 million.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited April 2019 Posts: 8,205
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    skropper13 wrote: »
    Charlie Hunnam should be the next bond, that is all

    Zzzzzzzzz..... ;)


    Yes, I know this is click bait and more of an advertisement for The Avengers:EG, but I think Hemsworth would be perfect for a more traditional Bond.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6898389/Chris-Hemsworth-reveals-hed-love-play-James-Bond-Daniel-Craig-leaves-role-007.html

    Again, Hemsworth has presence but he’s an average actor. It’s an automatic rejection for being Australian too. George Lazenbys main weak point was an inability to master an English accent. There’s plenty of British actors out there.

    Lazenby was a fine Bond . He was a very inexperienced actor, but I have absolutely no doubt had he remained in the role, that he would have improved with each outing and become a very effective 007.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    talos7 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    skropper13 wrote: »
    Charlie Hunnam should be the next bond, that is all

    Zzzzzzzzz..... ;)


    Yes, I know this is click bait and more of an advertisement for The Avengers:EG, but I think Hemsworth would be perfect for a more traditional Bond.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6898389/Chris-Hemsworth-reveals-hed-love-play-James-Bond-Daniel-Craig-leaves-role-007.html

    Again, Hemsworth has presence but he’s an average actor. It’s an automatic rejection for being Australian too. George Lazenbys main weak point was an inability to master an English accent. There’s plenty of British actors out there.

    Lazenby was a fine Bond . He was a very inexperienced actor, but I have absolutely no doubt had he remained in the role, that he would have improved with each outstanding and become a very effective 007.
    Quite!
  • DeerAtTheGatesDeerAtTheGates Belgium
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    skropper13 wrote: »
    Charlie Hunnam should be the next bond, that is all

    Zzzzzzzzz..... ;)


    Yes, I know this is click bait and more of an advertisement for The Avengers:EG, but I think Hemsworth would be perfect for a more traditional Bond.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6898389/Chris-Hemsworth-reveals-hed-love-play-James-Bond-Daniel-Craig-leaves-role-007.html

    Again, Hemsworth has presence but he’s an average actor. It’s an automatic rejection for being Australian too. George Lazenbys main weak point was an inability to master an English accent. There’s plenty of British actors out there.

    I'm not really advocating for Hemsworth as Bond, there are other actors I would like to see as Bond.

    But (and now I risk to get the entire board falling over this) I don't think a new Bond actor should always be British. Yes, the character is British, I get that, and he should remain as such.
    But if an actor (any actor, be it an Australian or American or any other nationality) can speak in a perfect British accent, he could be Bond in my opinion. It's called acting.

    We don't exclude gay actors from our lists to take the role because Bond is straight. Gay men can portray straight men. Is nationality really such a limitation?
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    Although nationality shouldn't be an issue if it's the right candidate (and who can speak in a proper British accent), I totally understand why it should be preferable if he's British.

    It was strange enough seeing Daniel Craig play a Swede in TGWTDT.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    talos7 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    skropper13 wrote: »
    Charlie Hunnam should be the next bond, that is all

    Zzzzzzzzz..... ;)


    Yes, I know this is click bait and more of an advertisement for The Avengers:EG, but I think Hemsworth would be perfect for a more traditional Bond.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6898389/Chris-Hemsworth-reveals-hed-love-play-James-Bond-Daniel-Craig-leaves-role-007.html

    Again, Hemsworth has presence but he’s an average actor. It’s an automatic rejection for being Australian too. George Lazenbys main weak point was an inability to master an English accent. There’s plenty of British actors out there.

    Lazenby was a fine Bond . He was a very inexperienced actor, but I have absolutely no doubt had he remained in the role, that he would have improved with each outing and become a very effective 007.

    True. But my point was his accent was all over the place. It didn’t sound British. It sounded odd.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    skropper13 wrote: »
    Charlie Hunnam should be the next bond, that is all

    Zzzzzzzzz..... ;)


    Yes, I know this is click bait and more of an advertisement for The Avengers:EG, but I think Hemsworth would be perfect for a more traditional Bond.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6898389/Chris-Hemsworth-reveals-hed-love-play-James-Bond-Daniel-Craig-leaves-role-007.html

    Again, Hemsworth has presence but he’s an average actor. It’s an automatic rejection for being Australian too. George Lazenbys main weak point was an inability to master an English accent. There’s plenty of British actors out there.

    I'm not really advocating for Hemsworth as Bond, there are other actors I would like to see as Bond.

    But (and now I risk to get the entire board falling over this) I don't think a new Bond actor should always be British. Yes, the character is British, I get that, and he should remain as such.
    But if an actor (any actor, be it an Australian or American or any other nationality) can speak in a perfect British accent, he could be Bond in my opinion. It's called acting.

    We don't exclude gay actors from our lists to take the role because Bond is straight. Gay men can portray straight men. Is nationality really such a limitation?

    No none Brit actor can perfectly portray a British accent.

    Gay actors will be excluded due the brand image outside of filming. Not necessarily fair at all. But fact.
  • DeerAtTheGatesDeerAtTheGates Belgium
    edited April 2019 Posts: 524
    suavejmf wrote: »

    No none Brit actor can perfectly portray a British accent.

    Gay actors will be excluded due the brand image outside of filming. Not necessarily fair at all. But fact.

    Oh, I forgot all those articles mentioning Luke Evans as a suitable candidate... ;)

    So you would exclude him because he's gay? Personally, I think that Fleming (given his writing and his way of thinking) would've hated a gay man portraying Bond. But the "brand" of the cinematic Bond goes beyond that. The cinematic Bond has always adapted to the times, maybe not always justly so (Bond not smoking anymore), but some aspects of Fleming's beliefs should be left in the past, imho. And that includes his perception of gay people.

    Bottom line: I don't think that if a gay man were to portray Bond, it would "dilute the brand" in any way.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Anyone excluding a candidate for 007 because they're gay, by that same logic, might as well exclude any actor that isn't also a secret agent in real life.
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    I'd love Luke Evans to be Bond. Top rate candidate right there.
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 17,753
    Univex wrote: »
    I'd love Luke Evans to be Bond. Top rate candidate right there.

    He'd be my number one pick for the part, easily. He'll turn 40 this year though, so too old now unfortunately. In my ideal timeline he would've taken over as Bond around 2015, playing the part for 3 films.
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    A black Bond is a bad move,but I wouldn't be 'concerned' if a gay actor like Luke Evans played Bond.
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Surely a gay actor would enhance the 'brand'. EON would be seen as current and inclusive, both to gay actors and gay audience members alike.
    As I argued recently in favour non Brit actors being Bond if they are the right fit, I would have no problem if a gay actor was to play Bond. Non whatsoever. I don't feel like this because of some personal crusade just purely because it doesn't bloody matter. It's irrelevant, why? Get ready for this...
    BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTORS. THEY ARE NOT REALLY JAMES BOND.
    I never watched Casino Royale and thought "Daniel Craig is really good but I do hope he's heterosexual!"
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    I am all in favour of a gay actor playing Bond, providing they can play heterosexuals convincingly. I don't think Luke Evans has the right look for Bond, but he sure plays a convincing straight man. Heck, he looks more straight than many straight men!
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited April 2019 Posts: 5,131
    I think Luke Evans would make a great Bond.

    But the studio will not take the commercial risk or potential brand/ franchise risk of casting a gay actor. The studio simply won’t do it....especially with all the marketing tie ins in modern cinema. They won’t want a Bond actor turning up on the red carpet with a boyfriend.

    Again, it just won’t happen. It’s a business risk that the studio won’t sign off. Not a chance.

    Times have changed and society is more accepting. But when it comes to business, a gay Bond actor will never be cast. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/349132/Bosses-feared-James-Bond-star-George-Lazenby-was-gay/amp.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited April 2019 Posts: 1,318
    Turner takes the (layer) cake

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  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Turner takes the (layer) cake

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    A sensible and viable candidate. Definitely worth a screen rest.
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Turner takes the (layer) cake

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    A sensible and viable candidate. Definitely worth a screen rest.

    Is that the modern term for a sex scene ?

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Turner takes the (layer) cake

    1443.jpg

    A sensible and viable candidate. Definitely worth a screen rest.

    Is that the modern term for a sex scene ?

    Ha ha! Test....I meant test.

    Ha ha.
  • Posts: 15,114
    I don't think Luke Evans has the right face for Bond, regardless of his sexual orientation. He looks too brutish.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I wouldn’t be opposed to Evans’ casting. I watch an actor for the character he portrays, and couldn’t care less what he would do in his private life. Like the previous post said, Evans looks more straight than a lot of straight actors, thus instantly making him a better choice than a lot of newcomers these days.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Evans is Welsh. Cast him NOW.

    Seriously? I wouldn't mind him cast. But at 39... I don't think it's going to happen.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I wouldn’t be opposed to Evans’ casting. I watch an actor for the character he portrays, and couldn’t care less what he would do in his private life. Like the previous post said, Evans looks more straight than a lot of straight actors, thus instantly making him a better choice than a lot of newcomers these days.

    I don't disagree with you at all. But studio execs and investors/ funders DO CARE what an actor would do in his private life. It is fact of business risk and investment management. The studio wants maximum profit for minimum risk.

    Evans would make a good Bond and he's a decent actor, I agree. But he'll never be cast as Bond because he's gay in 'real life'.
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    Evans is Welsh. Cast him NOW.

    Seriously? I wouldn't mind him cast. But at 39... I don't think it's going to happen.

    Yes there's that too: he's getting old.
  • weboffearweboffear Scotland
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    if you cast a gay actor as a straight Bond , a section of the gay community would be very vocal asking why the gay actor wasn't playing a gay Bond , why would EON hand them a stick to very publicly beat them with ?
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    Luke Evans is a fantastic Actor, and I´m sure he could deliver a cool Bond. But I´d much prefer if the sexual orientation of an Actor was not talked About at all. People know that Evans is gay, and that alone would make casting him a political Thing. Not to Mention the speculations that would explode. I remember well how much bs was talked About the Scene in SF with Silva. And when I watch the film, I don´t see Bond giving any indication he could be interested in men. I dare not imagine what would happen if an Actor was cast who´s known to be gay.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I believe it was held against Rupert Friend last time around.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    Luke Evans is a fantastic Actor, and I´m sure he could deliver a cool Bond. But I´d much prefer if the sexual orientation of an Actor was not talked About at all. People know that Evans is gay, and that alone would make casting him a political Thing. Not to Mention the speculations that would explode. I remember well how much bs was talked About the Scene in SF with Silva. And when I watch the film, I don´t see Bond giving any indication he could be interested in men. I dare not imagine what would happen if an Actor was cast who´s known to be gay.

    In SF , Bond posed the provocative question, ‘ what makes you think this is my first time?’ to put Silva on his heels.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    Luke Evans is a fantastic Actor, and I´m sure he could deliver a cool Bond. But I´d much prefer if the sexual orientation of an Actor was not talked About at all. People know that Evans is gay, and that alone would make casting him a political Thing. Not to Mention the speculations that would explode. I remember well how much bs was talked About the Scene in SF with Silva. And when I watch the film, I don´t see Bond giving any indication he could be interested in men. I dare not imagine what would happen if an Actor was cast who´s known to be gay.

    In SF , Bond posed the provocative question, ‘ what makes you think this is my first time?’ to put Silva on his heels.
    Exactly. He wants to provoke Silva, and he might even think of the ball Bashing in CR, but in no way does he suggest he might be not hetero.



    For what it´s worth:

    https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1057533-chris-hemsworth-talks-james-bond
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    he wouldn't be aweful
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