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We are not having a competition here @Denbigh .Yes, they look hideous but not as gay or feminine as Robert.
Say what you will but Craig or any bond would make one hell of an ugly woman
Robert on the other hand looks really shekshy . Now that i have seen this i can't unsee it.
Let's just hope he turns out to be a decent batman. Although I have my doubts.
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...and as for what else you said, people can look "gay and feminine" as you put it (even if Robert is quite far from what you're eluding to) and still be able to pull of a masculine character.
Indeed, I hear it's called acting. Furthermore, those pictures of Pattinson were taken in his late teenage years, and I doubt many Bond actors would have looked more Bondian at a similar age. At the moment he's in his early 30s, which is the right age to start considering potential Bonds. As others have noted, he probably won't get the part because he's Batman now, but otherwise he would have certainly been a contender, for reasons obvious to anyone who's seen his recent performances.
I have yet to see him put a masculine part yet in any film. He is still feminine to me. I want to someone who looks effortless, pulling it off shows desperation.
FYI, I have never said people can't be gay(I just don't want bond to be played by a gay actor) or he isn't a good actor or anything, that's just your assumptions. He is average at best for romantic films.
Danny Boyle touted him as an obvious Bond quite recently.
Batman maybe makes it less likely but not impossible.
And I didn't say you didn't say people could be gay, but I still completely disagree that he couldn't be played by a gay actor. Robert Pattinson isn't gay by the way, maybe bi but no-one knows and it doesn't mattter. It's simple. If Mark Ruffalo can play the Incredible Hulk, a gay man can play James Bond.
I don't think you should change your mind on Rob, but I am saying that using bad photos, saying he's too "gay and feminine" looking or whatever that video is to say he can't be Bond is just a weak argument to me.
...and yeah @Getafix I saw that. He would be great and yes not impossble, but I do think his commitment to Batman will get in the way heavily, especially since I think they want to do a trilogy with him.
Nope the video you posted showcasing his acting was mediocre at best. Pictures were there to show he didn't look the part, one can't change facial features you know unless you are played joker from Batman.
Anyway whoever the new James Bond, I can't wait to see it. A clean slate is always really exciting :D
It will just be on a loop as always.
Oh man, the loop! It’s almost time to talk about Aidan Turner! Shall we? Nietzsche would be so proud.
It's Tom Hardy's TIME Aidan Turner is next month
Holy androgynous Batman!
Wait? So Bond is becoming a woman? ;)
Ironically, it takes huge bollocks to dress like that.
I've said it a length on here before, They are actors. If they can act, screen test well and impress Babs then job done. Old pictures from a modelling gig (or whatever the hell that was) are irrelevant.
BTW I'm no advocate of Pattinson at all but I'm open enough to realise that if he proves the right man for the job, great, because...
He's an actor!
By some of the logic on here sometimes Cavill can't be Bond because he can fly and Bond can't.
Can't be poldark because Bond doesn't have long hair and a beard. Fassbender can move metal with his mind and Bond is not sci-fi so no good.
In the 60s it was always SPECTRE. From Dr No admitting he worked for SPECTRE, through Grant and Klebb and Blofeld himself (the author of all Bond's pain). Only Goldfinger stood apart.
So there was that link, but as you say the films to all intents and purposes stood apart from each other, with the exception of Dr No's mention in FRWL.
Nonsense, how are you going to change eyes,lips, facial features of an actor?
Beard, hair can be changed. What are you going to do, use CGI on an actor's face. Cavill and Turner are the only one's who actually look like bond, others i am afraid are meh.
I would prefer Turner over Cavill but you are using an illogical argument of bringing sci-fi attributes over natural physical features which are suitable for bond. People here are using examples of ledger playing joker, anyone who play joker has big advantage of makeup covering them up. When Daniel Craig was cast as bond no one knew much about him same goes for ledger, they weren't already popular but Pattison, Cavill and others are. We are quite familiar with their method acting.
The pictures were only to show that his face haven't changed much over the years and there isn't anything you can do about it unless of course you prefer to use CGI on bond's face.
I don't think my argument is illogical. The 6 men who have played Bond all have very different facial features. There's no 'type' really, hence the kick off back n 2005/6 against Craig. Cavill and Turner maybe look the part, whatever that means, but it's subjective. Again I'll just say I'm not championing Robert Pattinson. Not at all. I have several actors I would put above him.
I was merely pointing out that an old photo of him looking a million miles away from a 'Bond look' is utterly irrelevant. He now looks older, he'll look less slender for Batman and is as suitable as Bond as many names suggested on here. Hope that makes sense.
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If you look at some of the actors mentioned here, I doubt anybody would notice the difference if Bkbd was played by a woman!
Robert Pattinson doesn't really embody much of rugged Bond masculinity but hey, just my opinion. I'm sure he'll put on a deep voice and whisper a lot as Batman and people will go "amazing." I don't think Batman is that hard a role to play. Just pretend you're Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry in a mask and er... that's kinda how to play Batman. ;)
Bond is kind of different and requires a certain masculine refinement. Sort of a weird mix of macho and not so macho at the same time. Refined but tough, I guess. I'd argue Craig is not refined enough to be a truly convincing James Bond. Idris Elba is another doubtful in that dept. But times have moved on and we're in the 2020s so refined action heroes aren't in vogue. Given the huge success of Joker it's debatable if heroes are that popular anymore! The likes of Harley Quinn, Deadpool and the Joker suggest anti-heroes are the new heroes. Bond will endure - you can't stop him - but the world keeps changing and each new Bond actor has to reflect the times in which we currently live.
The young Bruce Wayne. ;)) No wonder he went a bit crazy. Not only did his parents die he was forced into dodgy looking male modelling. Would make anyone go vigilante. :P
I'm sure if any of us were to try and play Batman my friend, it wouldn't be that easy, and as for your description of who Bond is, I'd say Robert Pattinson could pull that off. Refined yet masculine. I don't know what other people consider masculine, but I certainly find his most recent photoshoots to be so, but hey, just my opinion.
They're all good actors and I think would connect with a millenial audience which is obviously a key demographic EON need to tap for the future survival of the franchise.
I think any of those 3 could be good actually.
Virtually no one was touting Craig as Bond before he was cast. He was a left field choice and plenty of people predicted he'd be a disaster.
The role brings a mystique and kudos that can elevate a seemingly ordinary actor. Let's face it Sir Rog was not the best actor or box office dynamite outside Bond, but in that role he was elevated to a new level.
Photos of Pattinson as a child model mean nothing. Yes he can be a bit androgynous but incase some haven't noticed that's not necessarily a bad thing amongst the younger generation. Plus I doubt that is how he'd approach Bond. As others have said, he's an actor.
As I've said before I don't think Nicholas Hoult has much of an edge to him. I imagine him more as a slightly creepy henchman. You'll understand if you've ever seen a film called Kill Your Friends.
As for Jamie Bell, I'm not sure his height will get him into James Bond - only 5' 7 I think. A great actor but I'm not sure I can see it. I think he falls into the same category as Jack O' Connell. They have the chops but the height just lets them down a lil bit. I wouldn't mind but the producers and casting directors probably will.
You're probably right about Pattinson and Batman though. I guess. A shame in a way as I think he might have been an interesting option.
I saw Hoult in Tolkein recently. First time I'd seen him in a proper acting part for ages. And I thought he was pretty good. Not an obvious choice I agree but my point is that Craig wasn't either.
According to this article Hoult was also in the running for Batman so he's clearly on the Hollywood radar for big leading roles.
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1134616/Batman-solo-movie-Robert-Pattinson-Nicholas-Hoult-The-Batman-Matt-Reeves-Ben-Affleck/amp