Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Gerard Butler.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    Gerard Butler.

    He's already had his Bond movie! :)
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Halle Berry.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Only if you stand next to them, surely?
    A quick google says he's 5'10.5" - obviously I've no idea if that's accurate but it hardly seems short. It's just the size of a man.

    I remember being amazed when I saw Paul Merton and Jonathan Ross in the flesh somewhere (actually I think Ross was at the John Barry concert I went to!) to discover they're both very tall- I thought that never really came across on the telly.

    That's literally the point I am making.

    You've lost me. I thought you said Crowe was too short?

    I said to John Glen that he was, about 20 years ago. And John Glen told me it didn't matter. And so now I don't worry about the height of the actor. I don't care about Russell Crowe's height. That wasn't the point.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Only if you stand next to them, surely?
    A quick google says he's 5'10.5" - obviously I've no idea if that's accurate but it hardly seems short. It's just the size of a man.

    I remember being amazed when I saw Paul Merton and Jonathan Ross in the flesh somewhere (actually I think Ross was at the John Barry concert I went to!) to discover they're both very tall- I thought that never really came across on the telly.

    That's literally the point I am making.

    You've lost me. I thought you said Crowe was too short?

    I said to John Glen that he was, about 20 years ago. And John Glen told me it didn't matter. And so now I don't worry about the height of the actor. I don't care about Russell Crowe's height. That wasn't the point.

    Cubby cared about height though, so Glen wouldn’t have got a say really.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,371
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Only if you stand next to them, surely?
    A quick google says he's 5'10.5" - obviously I've no idea if that's accurate but it hardly seems short. It's just the size of a man.

    I remember being amazed when I saw Paul Merton and Jonathan Ross in the flesh somewhere (actually I think Ross was at the John Barry concert I went to!) to discover they're both very tall- I thought that never really came across on the telly.

    That's literally the point I am making.

    You've lost me. I thought you said Crowe was too short?

    I said to John Glen that he was, about 20 years ago. And John Glen told me it didn't matter. And so now I don't worry about the height of the actor. I don't care about Russell Crowe's height. That wasn't the point.

    Oh okay. It got a bit muddled when you said he still seems short to you because you’re tall.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Only if you stand next to them, surely?
    A quick google says he's 5'10.5" - obviously I've no idea if that's accurate but it hardly seems short. It's just the size of a man.

    I remember being amazed when I saw Paul Merton and Jonathan Ross in the flesh somewhere (actually I think Ross was at the John Barry concert I went to!) to discover they're both very tall- I thought that never really came across on the telly.

    That's literally the point I am making.

    You've lost me. I thought you said Crowe was too short?

    I said to John Glen that he was, about 20 years ago. And John Glen told me it didn't matter. And so now I don't worry about the height of the actor. I don't care about Russell Crowe's height. That wasn't the point.

    Cubby cared about height though, so Glen wouldn’t have got a say really.

    True. Anyway, Glen thought Russell Crowe was the best choice, back in about 2000.
  • Igor_IskinIgor_Iskin Ufa, Russia
    edited October 2020 Posts: 2
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  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    I watched the Vin Diesel sci-fi actioner Bloodshot the other day, which had Sam Heughan as an antagonist. I've been very lukewarm on about people suggesting him as a possible contender, but I have to admit he came across much tougher than I had expected. He plays hard and nasty pretty convincingly, and facially he has the chiselled bone-structure of someone you really wouldn't want to punch. He still wouldn't be my first choice, and time is not on his side, but I apologise if I've rolled my eyes at this suggestion in the past, he's not bad.
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 4,408
    Considering how different he looks in The Batman, I really think Pattinson could still be Bond. He's almost unrecognisable. Plus, there are rumours of rift on the set and that Pattinson will only do this film (if he completes filming at all). Though, that could just be fanboys mad that Affleck isn't returning.

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    Having looked over the new Batman set pictures and the (almost) universal praise they have received, what impact do we think it will have on Bond?

    We know that Casino Royale's casting was impacted by Bourne. Hence, why we got the gruffer, less vain and more masculine Daniel Craig. At the time, it was a fairly iconoclastic choice. Though, now he has naturally cemented himself in the role.

    If Dune and Batman become the benchmarks, I think we may see a younger and more angsty Bond. I wouldn't say we'd necessarily get 'emo Bond.'

    But, during Barbara's reign, we've already had the glib suave Bond in Brosnan. We've had the more militaristic tough Bond in Craig. It seems about right that the current zeitgeist is asking for a more tortured edgy Bond. I think Daniel had these traits, but I think they'll be looking for a Pattinson-type.

    Considering the film won't be out until at least 2023 or 2024 at the earliest, the following names jump out for a more angst-ridden and moody Bond...(Also, what do people make of this suggestion? Would you suggest suave Bond again? Perhaps with Henry Cavill in UNCLE mode? Or do they do the tough, less vain Bond again? Where Hardy would be good.)

    Timothee Chalamet
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    Harris Dickinson
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    Jacob Elordi
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    Harry Styles
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    Austin Butler
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    Jack O'Connell
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    Nicholas Hoult
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    Charlie Heaton
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    Paul Mescal
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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited October 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Again @Pierce2Daniel, I think Pattinson is completely out of the running; he will be Batman, and will probably continue the role in the planned trilogy. Also, these set pictures should be enough for us (as well as the fact the rumour came from a YouTuber that doesn’t have much of a track record), to gather that the rumours about rifts on set are completely untrue - with other, more trustworthy news sources stating they’ve heard nothing of the sort from their own insiders.

    If successful, and I think it will be, then I won’t be surprised if EON take note and cast a “younger” actor, although I don’t think it’ll be any of the names you put forward, with O’Connell being the more likely candidate of the bunch.

    I also think there are other, probably more suitable actors who would be more likely to be considered, if they want to go down the “Pattinson-route”:

    1) Callum Turner
    2) Aaron Taylor-Johnson
    3) Oliver Jackson-Cohen
    4) Sean Teale
    5) Jack Lowden
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited October 2020 Posts: 8,205
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    Jack Lowden is steadily becoming a front runner for me. He’s got a young Connery vibe to him.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    How old is Nikolaj Coster-Waldau?
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I actually saw them filming The Batman in Liverpool the other day, which was cool. I'm not a big Batman fan admittedly but I don't think he looks like Bruce Wayne there, but I'm sure it'll make sense. I thought the way he looked in Tenet suited him being Bruce Wayne more.

    As for Pattinson being Bond I'm not feeling it. Nothing against the guy, but I don't see him being a convincing James Bond, he seems to have more of a villainess presence to him. But who knows at this point
    I've got to say as well, I hope they don't go for the whole angst route with Bond.
    The only major confliction Bond should face is he a hero or a villain, like in the books were he contemplates the nature of his employment, instead of having him carrying round an angst over the death of his parents, for instance.
    By all means go for a younger man but have him old enough to be believably established as 007, not a rookie who is learning the ropes, we've seen that with Casino and I doubt they can do it any better. A Goldeneye style reboot would be ideal

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    talos7 wrote: »
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    Jack Lowden is steadily becoming a front runner for me. He’s got a young Connery vibe to him.

    Not a bad shout. I’ll have to watch Dunkirk and see for myself.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I actually saw them filming The Batman in Liverpool the other day, which was cool. I'm not a big Batman fan admittedly but I don't think he looks like Bruce Wayne there, but I'm sure it'll make sense. I thought the way he looked in Tenet suited him being Bruce Wayne more.

    As for Pattinson being Bond I'm not feeling it. Nothing against the guy, but I don't see him being a convincing James Bond, he seems to have more of a villainess presence to him. But who knows at this point
    I've got to say as well, I hope they don't go for the whole angst route with Bond.
    The only major confliction Bond should face is he a hero or a villain, like in the books were he contemplates the nature of his employment, instead of having him carrying round an angst over the death of his parents, for instance.
    By all means go for a younger man but have him old enough to be believably established as 007, not a rookie who is learning the ropes, we've seen that with Casino and I doubt they can do it any better. A Goldeneye style reboot would be ideal

    I agree with all this. Good post. Even Bond in CR was 38 and Craig looked older, so it worked. A ‘fresh faced’ Bond is wrong.
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I actually saw them filming The Batman in Liverpool the other day, which was cool. I'm not a big Batman fan admittedly but I don't think he looks like Bruce Wayne there, but I'm sure it'll make sense. I thought the way he looked in Tenet suited him being Bruce Wayne more.

    As for Pattinson being Bond I'm not feeling it. Nothing against the guy, but I don't see him being a convincing James Bond, he seems to have more of a villainess presence to him. But who knows at this point
    I've got to say as well, I hope they don't go for the whole angst route with Bond.
    The only major confliction Bond should face is he a hero or a villain, like in the books were he contemplates the nature of his employment, instead of having him carrying round an angst over the death of his parents, for instance.
    By all means go for a younger man but have him old enough to be believably established as 007, not a rookie who is learning the ropes, we've seen that with Casino and I doubt they can do it any better. A Goldeneye style reboot would be ideal

    I agree with all this. Good post. Even Bond in CR was 38 and Craig looked older, so it worked. A ‘fresh faced’ Bond is wrong.

    Agreed.
    However, if the Young Bond novels were ever adapted and set during the 1940's, I'd be on board for a fresh faced Bond.
  • I've been touting Lowden for a couple of years now. Not that he's my first choice; I just think he's the Calibre (pun intended) of actor they're now considering, a little left field and has a good resume. I think the days of a lightweight like Brosnan are over. I can confidently predict Cavill will never be Bond. I think going forward, EoN will continue to make a more highbrow product. Gone are the days of journeyman directors too.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Good call @talos7, he looks great.
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 910
    As @Denbigh , I think it seems clear that Pattinson is now completely out of the running, and, to be honest, I don't think he's ever been part of it: too well known for the role. On the other hand, since we are talking about The Batman, Nicholas Hoult, who almost got the part and even had an audition in costume, could be a very interesting Bond. He will be 31 at the end of the year and will therefore still be quite young (36 perhaps) when Bond 26 goes into production.

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Right now my top 3 are, in no particular order, J. Lowden, A. Turner an N. Hoult.
    I would be happy with any one of them.
  • Posts: 15,115
    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Only if you stand next to them, surely?
    A quick google says he's 5'10.5" - obviously I've no idea if that's accurate but it hardly seems short. It's just the size of a man.

    I remember being amazed when I saw Paul Merton and Jonathan Ross in the flesh somewhere (actually I think Ross was at the John Barry concert I went to!) to discover they're both very tall- I thought that never really came across on the telly.

    That's literally the point I am making.

    You've lost me. I thought you said Crowe was too short?

    I said to John Glen that he was, about 20 years ago. And John Glen told me it didn't matter. And so now I don't worry about the height of the actor. I don't care about Russell Crowe's height. That wasn't the point.

    Cubby cared about height though, so Glen wouldn’t have got a say really.

    True. Anyway, Glen thought Russell Crowe was the best choice, back in about 2000.

    Well I have to disagree with Glen. I don't think his face looks right at all for Bond. Something too puffy about it. I think he was mentioned/rumoured for Batman as well, back around 2000, and I could not see him as Batman either.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Only if you stand next to them, surely?
    A quick google says he's 5'10.5" - obviously I've no idea if that's accurate but it hardly seems short. It's just the size of a man.

    I remember being amazed when I saw Paul Merton and Jonathan Ross in the flesh somewhere (actually I think Ross was at the John Barry concert I went to!) to discover they're both very tall- I thought that never really came across on the telly.

    That's literally the point I am making.

    You've lost me. I thought you said Crowe was too short?

    I said to John Glen that he was, about 20 years ago. And John Glen told me it didn't matter. And so now I don't worry about the height of the actor. I don't care about Russell Crowe's height. That wasn't the point.

    Cubby cared about height though, so Glen wouldn’t have got a say really.

    True. Anyway, Glen thought Russell Crowe was the best choice, back in about 2000.

    Well I have to disagree with Glen. I don't think his face looks right at all for Bond. Something too puffy about it. I think he was mentioned/rumoured for Batman as well, back around 2000, and I could not see him as Batman either.

    Absolutely. Think he would have been awful. He was just 'the name' at the time though because of Gladiator.

    Good actor. Not for Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,371
    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Only if you stand next to them, surely?
    A quick google says he's 5'10.5" - obviously I've no idea if that's accurate but it hardly seems short. It's just the size of a man.

    I remember being amazed when I saw Paul Merton and Jonathan Ross in the flesh somewhere (actually I think Ross was at the John Barry concert I went to!) to discover they're both very tall- I thought that never really came across on the telly.

    That's literally the point I am making.

    You've lost me. I thought you said Crowe was too short?

    I said to John Glen that he was, about 20 years ago. And John Glen told me it didn't matter. And so now I don't worry about the height of the actor. I don't care about Russell Crowe's height. That wasn't the point.

    Cubby cared about height though, so Glen wouldn’t have got a say really.

    True. Anyway, Glen thought Russell Crowe was the best choice, back in about 2000.

    Well I have to disagree with Glen. I don't think his face looks right at all for Bond. Something too puffy about it. I think he was mentioned/rumoured for Batman as well, back around 2000, and I could not see him as Batman either.

    Crowe as Batman? He’d be pretty ideal for it wouldn’t he? All brooding intensity and violence.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    [...]

    If Dune and Batman become the benchmarks, I think we may see a younger and more angsty Bond. I wouldn't say we'd necessarily get 'emo Bond.'

    [...]

    Considering the film won't be out until at least 2023 or 2024 at the earliest, the following names jump out for a more angst-ridden and moody Bond...

    [...]

    Timothee Chalamet
    Harris Dickinson
    Jacob Elordi
    Harry Styles
    Austin Butler
    Jack O'Connell
    Nicholas Hoult
    Charlie Heaton
    Aaron Altaras
    Paul Mescal

    Man, I thought I had one Bond actor to go before this happens but your post really forced me to consider that the next actor could be younger then me. And I'm not happy about it.
    I turn 30 next year and even though in a way I think all of this talk about the different generations is overdone and technically I don't think any of these guys even are Gen-Z themselves, some of them (Chalamet, Styles, Butler, Heaton) just look like stars for a different generation. And I think there is a non-zero chance Eon go down that route.
  • Posts: 15,115
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Only if you stand next to them, surely?
    A quick google says he's 5'10.5" - obviously I've no idea if that's accurate but it hardly seems short. It's just the size of a man.

    I remember being amazed when I saw Paul Merton and Jonathan Ross in the flesh somewhere (actually I think Ross was at the John Barry concert I went to!) to discover they're both very tall- I thought that never really came across on the telly.

    That's literally the point I am making.

    You've lost me. I thought you said Crowe was too short?

    I said to John Glen that he was, about 20 years ago. And John Glen told me it didn't matter. And so now I don't worry about the height of the actor. I don't care about Russell Crowe's height. That wasn't the point.

    Cubby cared about height though, so Glen wouldn’t have got a say really.

    True. Anyway, Glen thought Russell Crowe was the best choice, back in about 2000.

    Well I have to disagree with Glen. I don't think his face looks right at all for Bond. Something too puffy about it. I think he was mentioned/rumoured for Batman as well, back around 2000, and I could not see him as Batman either.

    Crowe as Batman? He’d be pretty ideal for it wouldn’t he? All brooding intensity and violence.

    Yes but his face is round and puffy. Even his body is too bulky for Batman imo. Or Bond. He'd make a great Bane. But Batman or Bond? No.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,371
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Only if you stand next to them, surely?
    A quick google says he's 5'10.5" - obviously I've no idea if that's accurate but it hardly seems short. It's just the size of a man.

    I remember being amazed when I saw Paul Merton and Jonathan Ross in the flesh somewhere (actually I think Ross was at the John Barry concert I went to!) to discover they're both very tall- I thought that never really came across on the telly.

    That's literally the point I am making.

    You've lost me. I thought you said Crowe was too short?

    I said to John Glen that he was, about 20 years ago. And John Glen told me it didn't matter. And so now I don't worry about the height of the actor. I don't care about Russell Crowe's height. That wasn't the point.

    Cubby cared about height though, so Glen wouldn’t have got a say really.

    True. Anyway, Glen thought Russell Crowe was the best choice, back in about 2000.

    Well I have to disagree with Glen. I don't think his face looks right at all for Bond. Something too puffy about it. I think he was mentioned/rumoured for Batman as well, back around 2000, and I could not see him as Batman either.

    Crowe as Batman? He’d be pretty ideal for it wouldn’t he? All brooding intensity and violence.

    Yes but his face is round and puffy. Even his body is too bulky for Batman imo. Or Bond. He'd make a great Bane. But Batman or Bond? No.

    I don't really get where you're coming from: they wear a mask as Batman. He'd look the same as any other one.
    And Batman has the physique of a huge bodybuilder in the comics quite often.
  • Posts: 15,115
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Only if you stand next to them, surely?
    A quick google says he's 5'10.5" - obviously I've no idea if that's accurate but it hardly seems short. It's just the size of a man.

    I remember being amazed when I saw Paul Merton and Jonathan Ross in the flesh somewhere (actually I think Ross was at the John Barry concert I went to!) to discover they're both very tall- I thought that never really came across on the telly.

    That's literally the point I am making.

    You've lost me. I thought you said Crowe was too short?

    I said to John Glen that he was, about 20 years ago. And John Glen told me it didn't matter. And so now I don't worry about the height of the actor. I don't care about Russell Crowe's height. That wasn't the point.

    Cubby cared about height though, so Glen wouldn’t have got a say really.

    True. Anyway, Glen thought Russell Crowe was the best choice, back in about 2000.

    Well I have to disagree with Glen. I don't think his face looks right at all for Bond. Something too puffy about it. I think he was mentioned/rumoured for Batman as well, back around 2000, and I could not see him as Batman either.

    Crowe as Batman? He’d be pretty ideal for it wouldn’t he? All brooding intensity and violence.

    Yes but his face is round and puffy. Even his body is too bulky for Batman imo. Or Bond. He'd make a great Bane. But Batman or Bond? No.

    I don't really get where you're coming from: they wear a mask as Batman. He'd look the same as any other one.
    And Batman has the physique of a huge bodybuilder in the comics quite often.

    He'd still have to be Bruce Wayne. I know Batman had the physique of a bodybuilder in the comics, which I find a poor artistic choice. I just don't think Crowe would work, for the same reason I don't think he'd work as Bond. Too brutish.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,371
    I'm surprised anyone has tight conceptions of how Bruce Wayne should look: we've had a fairly disparate range of types playing him (obviously all within the 'handsome white guy' range of course!).
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