Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Ok, so over on the future villain's page, I put forward Matt Smith as a possible candidate, before @thelivingroyale and now @DoctorKaufmann suggested he might actually make a good James Bond, and I can't help but agree. The guy is a great actor, so just thought I'd bring the suggestion in here to see what people think.

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    I dont see it

    Nope…
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    edited November 2021 Posts: 1,261
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Ok, so over on the future villain's page, I put forward Matt Smith as a possible candidate, before @thelivingroyale and now @DoctorKaufmann suggested he might actually make a good James Bond, and I can't help but agree. The guy is a great actor, so just thought I'd bring the suggestion in here to see what people think.

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    You'd have my support on this.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Matt as Bond??! Completely no/nope/nada. Please.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Interesting thought. He's played Patrick Bateman, which kind of isn't a million miles off! I'd be interested to see how he is in the Soho film.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    He made a brilliant Doctor, but he's not Bond material.
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    He is a fantastic actor but he is suitable for another role in Bond... Just not as James Bond himself.
  • Is he handsome enough for Bond? I'd be interested to here a woman's opinion, but I think he's a bit on the ugly side, at least for Bond.

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I'm not a woman, but I think he's very attractive personally :)
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I wouldn't call him ugly, but he has a very unusual look that wouldn't work for Bond IMO. He does display certain Bond sensibilities in The Crown when playing a young Prince Philip.
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    I'm a woman. My opinion is no :). Not for Bond at all.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    00Heaven wrote: »
    I'm a woman. My opinion is no :). Not for Bond at all.

    I’m a man and agree 10000000 percent
  • Posts: 526
    Let’s say Bond movies go for a more stripped down approach, not a sprawling massive production. QOS came out 2 years after Casino(Ducks under table), and The Brosnan Bonds we’re mostly 2 years (I think). If they had the extra workers etc, couldn’t 2 years, or let’s say 2 1/2 years be done? Casino Royale proves that a great Bond movie doesn’t need to cost $300 or $350 mill etc.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Remember what a production nightmare QOS was though. Mainly due to the writers strike, but that’s not all of it.
    The chance of a two year film cycle returning is low to non existent. A three - four year turnaround is much more likely. Probably best to get used to it.
  • edited November 2021 Posts: 910
    If they had the extra workers etc, couldn’t 2 years, or let’s say 2 1/2 years be done?
    Well, supposing Bond 26 is released, let's say, in October 2025, a 18 months gap would mean for Bond 27 to come out in spring 2028: spring is already a season crowed by blockbuster releases and it wouldn't be in the interest of Eon to release its movie in a period marked by strong competition. So we go back to a three years gap. And, as @Benny said, QoS was a production nightmare, ditto for TND. An installment every three years, with a probable longer break before B26, is for the better of the franchise in my opinion.
  • Posts: 526
    Yeah, I know you guys are right. Wishful thinking on my part. Three years is just such a long wait. Let’s just hope they don’t do 4 years 8-}
    The days of 2 year gaps are over I’d say. And it may be for the best -referring to what you guys said about production.
  • Yeah, I know you guys are right. Wishful thinking on my part. Three years is just such a long wait. Let’s just hope they don’t do 4 years 8-}
    Let's not forget that any three-year gap will nonetheless be marked by active communication from Eon between casting, set photos, trailers, etc... It's not as if this period is going to be empty. I fear more the wait that separates us from Bond 26's entry into production.
  • edited November 2021 Posts: 526
    True, yes. That is the big question right now. A lot of unknowns currently about when everything will shape up. And when. All we know for sure is that they will start looking for a new Bond in 2022. I bet they already know who it is.
  • Posts: 15,114
    Let’s say Bond movies go for a more stripped down approach, not a sprawling massive production. QOS came out 2 years after Casino(Ducks under table), and The Brosnan Bonds we’re mostly 2 years (I think). If they had the extra workers etc, couldn’t 2 years, or let’s say 2 1/2 years be done? Casino Royale proves that a great Bond movie doesn’t need to cost $300 or $350 mill etc.

    As much as I like QOS and find the film unfairly maligned, I remember how messy the whole production was and how it hurt the film in the end.
  • Posts: 526
    Could we possibly see something like this? If Wick can do it, don’t see why Eon can’t.

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    John Wick: Chapter 2
    2017
    John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
    2019
    John Wick: Chapter 4
    2022
  • Posts: 526
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Let’s say Bond movies go for a more stripped down approach, not a sprawling massive production. QOS came out 2 years after Casino(Ducks under table), and The Brosnan Bonds we’re mostly 2 years (I think). If they had the extra workers etc, couldn’t 2 years, or let’s say 2 1/2 years be done? Casino Royale proves that a great Bond movie doesn’t need to cost $300 or $350 mill etc.

    As much as I like QOS and find the film unfairly maligned, I remember how messy the whole production was and how it hurt the film in the end.

    I agree.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Could we possibly see something like this? If Wick can do it, don’t see why Eon can’t.

    John Wick
    2014
    John Wick: Chapter 2
    2017
    John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
    2019
    John Wick: Chapter 4
    2022

    They’re really low budget and stripped back though, aren’t they? I know they have their fans and they’re not for me, but I think they’re a different kind of filmmaking to Bond.
  • Posts: 526
    mtm wrote: »
    Could we possibly see something like this? If Wick can do it, don’t see why Eon can’t.

    John Wick
    2014
    John Wick: Chapter 2
    2017
    John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
    2019
    John Wick: Chapter 4
    2022

    They’re really low budget and stripped back though, aren’t they? I know they have their fans and they’re not for me, but I think they’re a different kind of filmmaking to Bond.

    Yes they are. Not anywhere near the sophistication or grandeur of a Bond film, but they are great action flicks imo. Like someone said, I just need to get used to 3 years. Let’s hope they really nail Bond 26.
  • DavidWebbDavidWebb Somewhere
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    mtm wrote: »
    Could we possibly see something like this? If Wick can do it, don’t see why Eon can’t.

    John Wick
    2014
    John Wick: Chapter 2
    2017
    John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
    2019
    John Wick: Chapter 4
    2022

    They’re really low budget and stripped back though, aren’t they? I know they have their fans and they’re not for me, but I think they’re a different kind of filmmaking to Bond.

    Yes they are. Not anywhere near the sophistication or grandeur of a Bond film, but they are great action flicks imo. Like someone said, I just need to get used to 3 years. Let’s hope they really nail Bond 26.

    ... yes, I think it should be noted by everyone that though the John Wick films are nowhere near the status of the Bond films, they are still decent films and great fun to watch.
  • Posts: 2,162
    DavidWebb wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Could we possibly see something like this? If Wick can do it, don’t see why Eon can’t.

    John Wick
    2014
    John Wick: Chapter 2
    2017
    John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
    2019
    John Wick: Chapter 4
    2022

    They’re really low budget and stripped back though, aren’t they? I know they have their fans and they’re not for me, but I think they’re a different kind of filmmaking to Bond.

    Yes they are. Not anywhere near the sophistication or grandeur of a Bond film, but they are great action flicks imo. Like someone said, I just need to get used to 3 years. Let’s hope they really nail Bond 26.

    ... yes, I think it should be noted by everyone that though the John Wick films are nowhere near the status of the Bond films, they are still decent films and great fun to watch.

    The JW films are great, but I wouldn't want to see the Bond series take a JW approach to its action and gunplay.
  • DavidWebbDavidWebb Somewhere
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    I agree, the Bond style of combat suits the series nicely. But, that being said, I wouldn't mind some elements of JWs fighting and gunplay style influencing moments of Bond's
    Mallory wrote: »
    DavidWebb wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Could we possibly see something like this? If Wick can do it, don’t see why Eon can’t.

    John Wick
    2014
    John Wick: Chapter 2
    2017
    John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
    2019
    John Wick: Chapter 4
    2022

    They’re really low budget and stripped back though, aren’t they? I know they have their fans and they’re not for me, but I think they’re a different kind of filmmaking to Bond.

    Yes they are. Not anywhere near the sophistication or grandeur of a Bond film, but they are great action flicks imo. Like someone said, I just need to get used to 3 years. Let’s hope they really nail Bond 26.

    ... yes, I think it should be noted by everyone that though the John Wick films are nowhere near the status of the Bond films, they are still decent films and great fun to watch.

    The JW films are great, but I wouldn't want to see the Bond series take a JW approach to its action and gunplay.

    I agree with you, the Bond films have their own style of combat which suits the series nicely. However, I wouldn't mind seeing some JW influences in Bond's combat. I really like the approach JW takes and I think the Bond films can take a lot from them - that's not to say Bond should take the same approach, of course.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Tom Cullen.
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    The gunplay in John Wick is actually one thing I would like to see Bond nick from that series. Obviously that shouldn’t be what every action scene is like, Bond’s strength is its variety, and a Bond film should always be more than a shoot em up. But we do have some shootouts in Bond films, so I do like the idea of them taking some inspiration from Wick in that area.

    Only problem is, would it work with a 12A? John Wick’s style of action sort of relies on you being able to see everything clearly. The problem with doing that in Bond is the lack of blood splatters. I always think it’s a bit naff when we see Bond gunning goons down and just get dust flying off them or whatever. The best Bond shootouts are the ones that are filmed inventively enough to avoid that (compare the staircase battle in NTTD to Bond fighting his way out of Blofeld’s compound in SP).
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Ok, so over on the future villain's page, I put forward Matt Smith as a possible candidate, before @thelivingroyale and now @DoctorKaufmann suggested he might actually make a good James Bond, and I can't help but agree. The guy is a great actor, so just thought I'd bring the suggestion in here to see what people think.

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    =D> =D>
    You'd have my support on this.

    Same. Obviously it won’t happen, but the more I think about it, the more I like the idea.

    @mtm made a good point about Tom Hardy possibly being too similar to Craig. And I think that’s true of a lot of the current suggestions, even the ones I like such as Hardy and O’Connell. I don’t think they’d be exactly the same as Craig’s take, but they’d probably be equally harder edged. And is that just inviting comparison to Craig? I think the reason Lazenby isn’t highly thought of amongst the general public is how similar he was to Connery. That, along with how they had him literally step into Connery’s shoes, just invited comparison. Whereas Roger Moore moved the series out of Connery’s shadow by completely reinventing it, and giving us a whole new sort of Bond.

    Craig has been Bond for a long, long time. He is James Bond to multiple generations of new fans, and his films haven’t just been massively critically and commercially successful, they’re pop culture juggernauts in the UK. Replacing him will be almost as tough a task as replacing Connery imo. So, I think they should probably avoid the next Lazenby, and look for the next Roger Moore. Someone who can completely reinvent it, and move the series out of Craig’s shadow.

    I don’t know if that will happen. To be honest, my gut says that the next Bond will probably be quite similar to Craig in some ways, because that’s just how action heroes tend to be now, and the producers seem far more satisfied with this era in comparison to Brosnan’s. But if they did want to go lighter again, and go with someone who could be the Moore to Craig’s Connery, then I think Matt Smith could play that sort of Bond in his sleep. As I said in the other thread, he’s got that same ability to make you go along with the unbelieveable through sheer charm. And while he’d be an unconventional looking choice (although I think he’s probably still attractive enough, I remember him doing pretty well on some glamour magazine “sexiest man in Britain” poll when he was Doctor Who), I think he could bring a fresh sort of energy to it physically.

    It won’t be him, but the thought of him doing it excites me more than a lot of the other names mentioned.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Very interesting thoughts. Ladies do like him, I've met him and he's certainly got something about him.
    I could see Smith doing a very cool period version, a lot like I could Pattinson.
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    I don't think the change between Connery and Moore was that radical, not at the beginning anyway. Connery had considerably lightened up with DAF, he had "missed" the darker Bond movie that was OHMSS, etc. When Moore took over he was still finding his feet in the role and had some darker moments. Maybe that's what we will have: a crypto Craig that will find his own voice as movies are released.
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    Is he handsome enough for Bond? I'd be interested to here a woman's opinion, but I think he's a bit on the ugly side, at least for Bond.

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    Ah lads, yer 'avin a laugh?!?!?
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