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Others have backed mine.
(shrug)
Certainly your dislike of my opinion comes through clearly!
Much ado about a Bond thread, sir!
I don't give two tosses whether you like Moore or not. It's how you go about it. I've gone through it many times before, so I shan't repeat myself. And quite a few other members have expressed the same thing.
Might I provide you with this-
Is this, or is it not, completely irrelevant to the threads purpose, and deliberately provocative?
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
The thing I like about most of Brosnan's Bonds is the way they embrace the absurd. True, Tim's take & movies are my favourite, but if they're serving up purely cinematic Bond, Pierce surely satisfies (me, anyway).
I've made my points and shall move on with the thread.
Indeed, I'm quite sick of this vicious circle. It will not continue; he can move it to a more appropriate thread if he is so inclined.
As for Brosnan; certainly hold him in a much higher esteem than I did, say, a year ago. Always gives a strong performance, even when presented with something like DAD.
Goldeneye is near cinematic Bond perfection.
Brosnan's films are absurd alright.
As to whether they embrace it or rather fall face first right into it is another matter.
Now, I love the movie "Pacific Rim", and it's absolutely LOADED with inventive & cutting edge CGI, but it's all really a big cartoon movie anyway. Bond movies have been embracing CGI more and more- bits in GE, lots of real photography erasure/enhancement in TND, entire shots in TWINE culminating with entire SCENES constructed virtually for DAD... lesson learned? Eh, not really. Craig's movies have been blanketed with the stuff. In CR it was pretty limited and mostly seamless. In QOS it was spotty, but the beginnings of the addictive digital tweaking was evident (I was going to get QOS on Blu Ray the other day, but then I realized why? So I can spot the CGI better??). With SF we had buildings & lighting being played with... and I don't know about everyone else here, but a lot of the CGI in SF was pretty effin' distracting to me. Say what you want about obvious model shots in GE, but at least they were photographed THINGS that had a physical presence... so many shots in SF felt like my days in Photoshop class in college.
And all this to say I agree with @MayDayDiVicenzo, Goldeneye is near cinematic Bond perfection. And I'd add TND to that, personally.
Section 26, paragraph 5. Need-to-know. Sure you understand. :))
Ha ha, yeah, I'm with you here. ;)
:)>-
I don't think we all have to have the same tastes to comment on the threads, and just being blind cheerleaders to anything is unhealthy. It's like when co-workers at a company say, 'We.'
Who's' 'We?'
'Cuz the company would cut us all loose in a second if it needed to.
In the GE plane dive, there are shots that I would have cut, perhaps even stayed outside the plane, because some of the shots of Bros trying to get into the plane, holding the control stick, his POV, those shots undercut the believability of the sequence, which up to that point had been brilliant.
2. CR
3. QoS
4. GE
5. TND
6. DAD
7. TWISNE
I've come to the conclusion that as much as I like GE, the two Dalton Bonds are of better, or at least more consistent tone than the four Bros films. And other than GE, there's an intensity lacking in the Bros that Dalton has in spades.
He's not afraid to put a gun or knife to a woman's neck or chin, but TWINE just butchered the kill scene with the villianess. Afraid to be bold.
Casino Royale
Skyfall
Quantum of Solace
Goldeneye
Tomorrow Never Dies
Die Another Day
The World Is Not Enough
Quantum of Solace
Skyfall
Die Another Day
Tomorrow Never Dies
Goldeneye (blechh)
The World Is Not Enough (double blechh)
1. Casino Royale
2. Goldeneye
3. Skyfall
4. Die Another Day
5. Tomorrow Never Dies
6. The World Is Not Enough
As a side note, TWINE was my first cinema Bond. Thought it was good back then, but rather quick it fell to be my least favourite. It just has so many faults, I can't enjoy it.
CR is untouchably number 1. It doesn't reach my favourites from the 60s and 80s, but still a great Bond flick.
1. Casino Royale
2. Skyfall
3. Goldeneye
4. Tomorrow Never Dies
5. Quantum Of Solace
6. The World Is Not Enough
7. Die Another Day
2. Skyfall
3. GoldenEye - it would've switched places with Skyfall if the score was composed by e.g. David Arnold and not Eric Serra
4. Casino Royale
5. The World Is Not Enough
(bottomless chasm of nothing)
6. Die Another Day
7. Quantum Of Solace
Agreed on the first part. I also think the story also isn't any worse than Brosnan's last 3. I wouldn't call the story "strong", but I thought it was fine.
- The opening song
- The rough 'kick-you-in-the-face' attitude of Bond. I get it that this portrayal is closer to Fleming's novels, but after getting rid of all the subtle wit we got used to in the previous movies it just felt like a regular action movie and not a Bond film.
- The forgettable villain
In my opinion, Skyfall fixed all that by giving the viewer references to previous Bond films, explanations for the changes (for example M's speech at court or Q mentioning they don't make gadgets like exploding pens anymore), a truly mad villain we'll remember and a stunning intro theme. It felt like going back to the roots of what made the movie franchise a worldwide phenomenon.
Sidenote: QOS is not all bad, it does have some good scenes too. The opera sequence, for instance.
Anyway, the list made me give the movie another chance. I'm watching it right now. ;)