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Jaws : Carnivore or Clown ?

barryt007barryt007
edited March 2011 in Bond Movies Posts: 19,339
Posted: 05-May-2010 11:18 AM Post subject: Jaws : Carnivore or Clown ?

There seems to be a lot of love or hate for the character of Jaws (not the lovely Richard Kiel of course,bless him) after his appearance in MR maybe made the character a clown rather than the carnivore he was in TSWLM.

Personally i think he should have been contained to TSWLM alone and remembered as an almost superhuman character,killed by either the shark at the end or left to drown with the crumbling Atlantis around him.

How do you feel about him ? carnivore or clown ?

Unfortunately on an overall basis i think :

CARNIVORE : 0
CLOWN : 1

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  • bondfan06bondfan06
    Posts: 8
    CARNIVORE : 0
    CLOWN : 2

    He was a carnivore in TSWLM but turned into a clown in MR.
  • WillardWhyteWillardWhyte Midnight Society #ProjectMoon
    Posts: 784
    CARNIVORE : 0
    CLOWN : 3!!!!

    One of the worst bits of the Moore Era
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    What could have been a great character in a great film, ended up as a joke, as the "joke era" began. In Moonraker it was even worse - we had Dolly! Therefore:

    CARNIVORE : 0
    CLOWN : 4

  • UndiscoveredCountryUndiscoveredCountry
    Posts: 50
    I'd say MR makes him a clown, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

    CARNIVORE : 0
    CLOWN : 5
  • dragonskydragonsky
    Posts: 2,491
    i wont vote on this cause i like him but yea his character is messed up at the end of MR
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    CARNIVORE : 0
    CLOWN : 6

    He was great in The Spy Who Loved Me, though there were some clownin'around moments... but in Moonraker, he was an absolute joke - and really served no purpose to be in the film, other than he was popular in the previous film... but since Moonraker felt like a campy retread over TSWLM, why not bring back the same henchman and make him ridiculous... he was in fact a red nose and rimshot away from being a REAL clown..
  • BartlebyBartleby
    Posts: 110
    He is the best part of Moonraker next to the double-taking pigeon. He deserves more respect for his role in that movie.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    i don't know - i think that drunk on the bridge who sees the coffin, and gargles and coughs his way through a series of heart attacks before tossing his cigarette into the water stole the show for me..
  • Agent_OO7Agent_OO7
    Posts: 72
    Though Jaws is a classic character, it is in film arguments with fellow film lovers who doubt the impact of the Bond films that bring upon the discussions of some horribly cheesy characters. Jaws in usually #1 on the list.

    CARNIVORE: 0
    CLOWN: 7
  • casinoroylecasinoroyle
    Posts: 6
    clown, the worse been falling into a circus tent and ruining a great pre title in octopussy
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    Quoting casinoroyle: clown, the worse been falling into a circus tent and ruining a great pre title in octopussy
    i think you mean Moonraker...... either way - how fitting that the biggest Clown in the Bond franchise crashes in on a circus tent - which just happens to be out in the middle of nowhere.
  • St_GeorgeSt_George Shuttling Drax's lovelies to the space doughnut - happy 40th, MR!
    Posts: 1,699
    CARNIVORE: 0
    CLOWN: 7
    LEGEND : 1
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    Quoting St_George: CARNIVORE: 0

    CLOWN: 7

    LEGEND : 1
    Can he not be a legendary Clown?? :-D
  • St_GeorgeSt_George Shuttling Drax's lovelies to the space doughnut - happy 40th, MR!
    Posts: 1,699
    @haserot Or even a legendary carniverous clown?

    Actually, I'd probably be happy describing him that way... B-)
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    a flesh eating nightmare clown :-))
  • St_GeorgeSt_George Shuttling Drax's lovelies to the space doughnut - happy 40th, MR!
    Posts: 1,699
    Quoting haserot: a flesh eating nightmare clown :))
    Especially at carnivals in major Brazilian cities... :)
  • LudsLuds MIA
    Posts: 1,986
    I'll go with carnivore. He's the only saving grace out of the TSWLM disaster, portraying an iconic figure which will be long remembered. In MR he certainly is used as a clown but is still very much an unbeatable unstoppable force. I'm going with Carnivore! But I certainly don't have any beef with him, he really is a legend!

    Carnivore: 1
    Clown: 8
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited March 2011 Posts: 11,189
    He started off as a carnivore but turned into a clown - "an unbeatable, unstoppable force" that became a cartoon character - more so than he ever was in TSWLM :)

  • saunderssaunders Living in a world of avarice and deceit
    edited March 2011 Posts: 987
    Maybe it was because I saw these films first when I was a kid but Jaws always seems really sinister to me, that scene when he's coming down the alleyway in MR (ironically dressed as a clown) is genuinely disturbing. I know Broccoli and Gilbert have gone on record saying how kids loved Jaws, but I didn't he terrified me and gave me nightmares! Even now I consider him as a threatening character first and a comedy buffoon second.

    Carnivore: 2
    Clown: 8
  • RogueThunderballRogueThunderball
    Posts: 306
    Should have been a carnivore but MR turned him into a Clown!

    Carnivore: 2
    Clown: 9
  • jaguar007jaguar007
    Posts: 638
    Quoting RogueThunderball: Should have been a carnivore but MR turned him into a Clown!
    I agree with this. Right now I am grateful for the clown Jaws because I have a 6 year old son who has never seen an entire James Bond movie, but bits and pieces of a few of them. Jaws automatically became his favorite character. Just this past weekend he wanted me to get a picture of Jaws so he could copy it and draw a Jaws picture. He did a great picture (for a 6 year old) and my wife posted it on Facebook. We are both facebook friends with Richard Kiel ( I have met him twice) and he saw the picture, told us to send it to him and he would autograph it for free and send it back. He is such a nice guy
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    edited March 2011 Posts: 8,266
    Carnivore: 2
    Clown: 10

    He never was a serious character and I never found him one bit interesting or intimidating. Made worse by the 'if you can get him" line in MR
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    I often wonder where Jaws was advertised and how Drax knew of him...
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    Posts: 2,629
    If Jaws had only came back in OP and bit into a clown.
  • dragonskydragonsky
    Posts: 2,491
    Quoting St_George: LEGEND : 1
    yea he is legend.i really enjoyed to see him on screen again,even if that was youtube and it was GE wii game comercial instead of Bond movie but it was awesome
  • Lazenby.Lazenby.
    edited March 2011 Posts: 50
    A three-dimensional human carnivore, thanks to MR.

    And this, of course:
    Quoting St_George: LEGEND : 1
    Carnivore: 3
    Clown: 10
  • SharkShark Banned
    Posts: 348
    Carnivore: 4
    Clown: 10
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited March 2011 Posts: 11,189
    Quoting jaguar007: We are both facebook friends with Richard Kiel ( I have met him twice) and he
    saw the picture, told us to send it to him and he would autograph it for free
    and send it back. He is such a nice guy
    My my, you do get around ;)
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    Posts: 2,632
    Carnivore: 4
    Clown: 11

    Nothing can forgive what happened in Moonraker
  • The_ReaperThe_Reaper
    Posts: 1,092
    Carnivore: 5
    Clown: 11

    How dare you people?!?

    :-((
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