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1. M being the big bad
2. Tanner committing suicide
3. the DB5 making a comeback
Why would he drive off given the context of the ending in a hugely expensive AM that doesn't belong to him? And it would have looked even stranger if he drove off in a Fiat or Ford or whatever. So I just don't understand the angry posts given what is occurring in the script in those last scenes.
The DB5 had a very important role in Skyfall. In represented the past, just like the old M, or Bond's childhood home did. M died, Skyfall was blown up and the DB5 got destroyed too. It would have made more sense to leave it in the past.
If you ever read the Ian Fleming novels you'll find that Tim Dalton played Bond in the most realistic manner to the way Fleming wrote the character. Even more so than Daniel Craig who is my favourite Bond.
Agree and well said. Although I enjoy watching every Bond actor depending on my mood.
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DC- To be....Spectre ( and there is the link to the thread)
It seems like all that work didn't amount to much. Logan's first treatment was delivered about 4 months after the announcement of Mendes' return. (The first draft of the screenplay was handed in even later.) By the way, in the latest production video Medes does talk about what peaked his interest early on.
We all have our opinions on how screen Bond relates to book-Bond. Personally I don't think any of the six actors really captured book-Bond.
Terrence Young's original vision for a adapting book-Bond to screen, I think was done marvelously, as good as anything we have seen since.
For me Fleming's Bond is quite cocky and he lives large. He's glib, he's violent. He's also got a moral code. I think Young and Connery did a good extrapolating most of the core elements.
What we will always miss in the movies is Bond's internal monologue, but I've always maintained, it doesn't mean its not there.
Afterall if you think about the other book characters, they are not privy to Bond's internal monologue. just us readers are. The others just see the end result of his deliberations, which are often quite bold and violent.
I don't think we will ever see Book Bond really truly on screen, until someone does faithful adaptations of Fleming's novels, and even then its still a big if.
==I think Mendes was drawn to what he considered to be a worthy story, that would continue with some of the themes and storylines he worked with in SF, but as @panchito has pointed out, Mendes actually has explained his motivation. Now mind you it might be sanitized and updated to jive with the current script and production, as opposed to what he might have liked from before.
I think what Mendes is doing with the DB5 is creating a running gag. He's picked up that mainstream cinema-goers get a kick out of the car.
Wasn't Broz driving the car in GE and TND too?
It seems its a bit of nostalgia that is being shoved into the films in the post Cubby era.
I didn't like its return in SF, because I didn't think it made any sense, and still don't, but now I don't care.
It's a recurring gimmick. Q Branch salvaged the thing from SF Manor and patched it back together for their pal Bond, so off he goes again into the sunset, with Madeleine in the ejector-seat chair, at the end of SP. Harmless really at this point.
I often wonder if Logan slacked off on his Bond 24 screenwriting duties due to his many, many other projects. In retrospect, he shouldn't have taken the Bond 24 assignment.
I really would like it
I have ..but film is a different medium... Yes you're probably right ...even critics them self have that Fleming's Bond himself is dull ...not the books. I don't agree of course.
Craig also my favorite has been blessed with way better material than Dalton could ever have dreamed of... and yes I actually like Dalton. His acting is just too stiff too theatrical for me ...never natural ..too obvious acted.
But, while they are on vacation in Rome, Bill Tanner calls him.
The first thing he says is: "Tanner, I left, and I won't come back"
But Tanner called for another problem: while Lucia was going to her new place in South America, her and Felix disappeared.
Last traces bring to Japan. Bond has to return not to help MI6, but to find Felix.
Madeleine gives him freedom to do it.
So Bond travel to England, to talk with ES (or whatever he will be called).
While he is sitting, EB is shot by someone outside the prison: Mr Hinx!
He is not dead after all.
Bond chases him, he doesn't succeed in capturing Hinx.
But he manages to attach a Q branch new gadget, a gps locator, to his jacket. Q gave him it as a "welcome back" present, even if Bond said he didn't come back
Thanks to that, they track Hinx to Japan. They discovered the bullet used to killed EB has tallium in it. It is extremely painful for the wounded people.
They track the production and discover that those bullets were produced by a company owned by Marco Sciarra.
So Bond start to think about his previous mission, and discover that a phone call came from Lucia Sciarra's phone to EB 's phone while he was going to the SPECTRE meeting.
he connects the dots, and decides to go to Japan, where he tracks Lucia and Hinx in a castle call Shatterhand.
You know the remaining
It can't be avoided. The signs are too obvious. Madeline is going to die. Also I don't like the idea of placing this sort of significance on minor characters like the scarria's, or the way that EB is killed.
The car appears twice in the script: first shortly after the pre-title sequence in Q's lab (the car is under reconstruction), and then at the very end of the film (Bond and Madeleine drive away in the newly repaired DB5).
in Qs lab in the start and in the end....
I think they're filming the Bond and Madeleine drive away cause all the shots seem to have someone in the passenger seat as well.
Yes, it is under recontruction after what happened to it in SF
Q says:
one piece’, not ‘bring back one piece’.
How long after SF does SP take place. Does anyone have any thoughts?
Yes, the car is under reconstruction at the beginning of the film. It seems like the Q branch can fix any damage.