SPECTRE Leaks Discussion (allowed on ONLY this thread) MAJOR PLOTLINE SPOILERS!

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    wow brining the White tux back that is impresive
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    30 years since oo7 wore it last on screen
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    You know what, i just had another look at the CR script...yeah I won't be surprised if the SPECTRE title sequence is different from what's in the script. And I'm pretty sure there won't be archive footage a-la OHMSS, especially as Kleinman is involved. At most stylized versions of the moments from the 3 films.
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    antovolk wrote: »
    You know what, i just had another look at the CR script...yeah I won't be surprised if the SPECTRE title sequence is different from what's in the script. And I'm pretty sure there won't be archive footage a-la OHMSS, especially as Kleinman is involved. At most stylized versions of the moments from the 3 films.
    I've thought this too. The Casino Royale title sequence, as describe in the script, bares no relation at all to the finished article.
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    JCRendle wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    You know what, i just had another look at the CR script...yeah I won't be surprised if the SPECTRE title sequence is different from what's in the script. And I'm pretty sure there won't be archive footage a-la OHMSS, especially as Kleinman is involved. At most stylized versions of the moments from the 3 films.
    I've thought this too. The Casino Royale title sequence, as describe in the script, bares no relation at all to the finished article.

    The titles in the scripts are just Purvis/Wade's ideas. Kleinman could come up something totally different.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    I'd love a killer instrumental like ohmss
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    I do like the concept in CR's script, but I'm glad it wasn't used - it would be a drastic departure from the norm (even more so than no scantily clad women dancers).

    But the idea of seeing Bond's time in the services pre-00 status (SBS/SAS photos, Bond's CV and his ID card) but it was not Title Sequence material. Though we did get an idea of it with the CR website at the time.
  • It would be interesting to see what was scripted for the Skyfall Title Sequence, that one seemed to have more of story being told and it would be interesting to see how or if any of it was translated to the screen.
  • Looks like our first glimpse of Oberhauser's base of operations.

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  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
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    Looks like our first glimpse of Oberhauser's base of operations.

    10919377_824829420945125_1519158852_n.jpg

    Cool! Where is this?
  • aaron819 wrote: »
    Looks like our first glimpse of Oberhauser's base of operations.

    10919377_824829420945125_1519158852_n.jpg

    Cool! Where is this?

    The person who posted this over on 'Production Timeline' said it was in Morocco, where the sequence is set. If it is definitely, I'm not sure.
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    This link may have been posted already but for me it was a major, major spoiler as it details the entire film scene by scene, without having to read the script. I think it is accurate and current, but other posters who have read the scripts will know for sure.

    http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=109166&forumID=7&archive=0

    I regretted reading it a bit as it spoiled all the scenes in the film for me but I'm glad I did read it, because it rid me of all my fears over the film. Also there is little actual dialogue noted, so it is not a total spoiler. It proved to me that SP is about Bond and his mission with just enough of the M16 team involved but not too much as I had also feared. I also liked all the screen time for Swan and Blofeld. Also tons of action stuff is in this scene outline, even more than all the pictures and press have been revealing.

    I can see what P & W were brought in to do, goose up the action and rewrite the 3rd act. They obviously weren't hired to work on the dialogue, that is not their strong suit, action is. I hope it is accurate. It greatly increased my optimism that SP will be a huge hit.
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    Looks like our first glimpse of Oberhauser's base of operations.
    OK
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    Right, that design very much fits with the Morocco base of operations.
    Only question is, what actually is it, and where is it located?


  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
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    Does anyone think that the 3rd act with the London Climax has been fixed?
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    What was wrong with it?
  • DrShatterhandDrShatterhand Garden of Death, near Belfast
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    aaron819 wrote: »
    Does anyone think that the 3rd act with the London Climax has been fixed?

    I would love to think so. As written, the climax didn't really do it for me. It didn't really seem to make any sense as to why Blofeld would turn up there and being in London again felt too much like a retread of SF.
  • No way to know for sure till November, however I feel like the climax in the Dec draft worked a little better, I miss some of the action from the Oct draft. Hopefully we get some kind of hybrid of the two. Also wondering how they intend to handle the Moroccan climax at Oberhauser's lair. That sequence felt like it could use a bit more work.

    Even though it was clunky I kinda liked the idea behind the Solar Furnace bit. Maybe they reworked it after all or perhaps they are saving it for Bond 25. There's the new set pictures of the fuel tanks which may or may not be legit. The whole thing does seem a bit like the QoS climax at the eco hotel. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Hopefully there are a few surprises.
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    I think they will stick to the Dec script for both Morocco and London finale, mainly because I don't see any reason to change.
    The Dec script struck me as pretty finished, barring the odd dialogue tweak.
    What is interesting though, might be whether Estella comes to London as girl in flat.
    I'm betting yes, and that she stays a good girl.
    No Spectre eyes in flat.
  • timmer wrote: »
    I think they will stick to the Dec script for both Morocco and London finale, mainly because I don't see any reason to change.
    The Dec script struck me as pretty finished, barring the odd dialogue tweak.
    What is interesting though, might be whether Estella comes to London as girl in flat.
    I'm betting yes, and that she stays a good girl.
    No Spectre eyes in flat.

    I find the whole London girl thing a shame, because after Irma being cut it would have been nice to have a sort of "bad-girl" in some respects, but oh well.
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    aaron819 wrote: »
    Does anyone think that the 3rd act with the London Climax has been fixed?
    With MI6 HQ so prominently in the trailer, I think the third act will be as it is in the draft.
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    aaron819 wrote: »
    Looks like our first glimpse of Oberhauser's base of operations.

    10919377_824829420945125_1519158852_n.jpg

    Cool! Where is this?

    Springfield Power Plant .
  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
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    Mrcoggins wrote: »
    aaron819 wrote: »
    Looks like our first glimpse of Oberhauser's base of operations.

    10919377_824829420945125_1519158852_n.jpg

    Cool! Where is this?

    Springfield Power Plant .

    Very funny @Mrcoggins ...
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    timmer wrote: »
    I think the booky will stick to the Dec script for both Morocco and London finale, mainly because I don't see any reason to change.
    The Dec script struck me as pretty finished, barring the odd dialogue tweak.
    What is interesting though, might be whether Estella comes to London as girl in flat.
    I'm betting yes, and that she stays a good girl.
    No Spectre eyes in flat.


    I find the whole London girl thing a shame, because after Irma being cut it would have been nice to have a sort of "bad-girl" in some respects, but oh well.
    Maybe they will just leave it alone, and girl in flat remains a spy. Then we get a 4th Bond Girl.
    Other two scenarios of course are Estrella comes to London as either good or bad , but I think she'd stay good.
    But key question is, how real is the rumour that Estrella becomes girl in flat?
  • edited April 2015 Posts: 1,661
    Plant looks like two boobs to me but that may say more about my infantile sense of humour than anything else.... ;))
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    Mi6 is keeping abreast of the situation
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    I'm at a crossroads here because I don't want to read the script, but I am curious.

    With that in mind, could someone explain this infamous Mickey Mouse line? I've heard a lot of slack against it and I'm just wondering exactly what it could be.
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    timmer wrote: »
    timmer wrote: »
    I think the booky will stick to the Dec script for both Morocco and London finale, mainly because I don't see any reason to change.
    The Dec script struck me as pretty finished, barring the odd dialogue tweak.
    What is interesting though, might be whether Estella comes to London as girl in flat.
    I'm betting yes, and that she stays a good girl.
    No Spectre eyes in flat.


    I find the whole London girl thing a shame, because after Irma being cut it would have been nice to have a sort of "bad-girl" in some respects, but oh well.
    Maybe they will just leave it alone, and girl in flat remains a spy. Then we get a 4th Bond Girl.
    Other two scenarios of course are Estrella comes to London as either good or bad , but I think she'd stay good.
    But key question is, how real is the rumour that Estrella becomes girl in flat?

    Very happy we are getting many Bond girls in SP after monk Craig in SF and QOS. MP is not a Bond Girl, and blink and Sererine was (wrongly I think) gone in SF. I'm particularly thrilled with having the sexy, talented, unpretentious, wonderful Lea as the main Bond Girl, who I think will become a big, big star after SP. I don't always agree with Mendes' choices (Logan and Newman), but he selected Lea so I'm very happy with that.

  • AVBAVB
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    SJK91 wrote: »
    I'm at a crossroads here because I don't want to read the script, but I am curious.

    With that in mind, could someone explain this infamous Mickey Mouse line? I've heard a lot of slack against it and I'm just wondering exactly what it could be.

    It's not as bad as people make out at all, just a throw away line during a brief conversation with a minor heavy who asks Bond who he is as he tries to get into the Spectre meeting. It's literally the least relevant issue of the script.
    smitty wrote: »


    Very happy we are getting many Bond girls in SP after monk Craig in SF and QOS. MP is not a Bond Girl, and blink and Sererine was (wrongly I think) gone in SF. I'm particularly thrilled with having the sexy, talented, unpretentious, wonderful Lea as the main Bond Girl, who I think will become a big, big star after SP. I don't always agree with Mendes' choices (Logan and Newman), but he selected Lea so I'm very happy with that.

    I agree that Bond needs to have more ladies. If I made SF, then MP would have remained as Eve, an MI6 field agent, slept with Bond and been killed in action instead of Severine. Then Severine could have made it out alive as I feel she deserved that. However in SP he does do an awful lot of shagging. There's Estrella, girl in flat, Monica and of course Swann.

    Seydoux is wonderful, she would have made an excellent Vesper! Better yet she will play Swann though, who is a much tougher and attractive Women compared to the simpering Ms.Lynd.

  • leas_moleleas_mole love is the promise of suffering
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    Glad to see some Léa admirers here :) - here is a French interview which hints at an English accent. Also confirmation of a scene. L'Est Republicain interview

    Are you comfortable acting in English?

    Since I like accents, I practiced with a coach at my request. I've never done so in French, but it could be interesting. French, oddly enough, is a very complicated language for cinema. It is a flat, harsh language, and it struck me several times to the fact that it lacks musicality. English is more pliable and malleable to play (act).

    How it like being the next French James Bond girl Madeleine Swann, an eminently Proustian name?

    This kind of action film is a large machine, for which it is highly prepared. I have for example a scene in which I dismantle a gun. I had to see the head of the weapons thirty times to know how to do it, to be ready at the time of the shooting, to have a fast and efficient movement.

    I am glad that this gun dismantling scene is still in the script and that Léa is going to do this for real (and not her stunt double.)
  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
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    leas_mole wrote: »
    Glad to see some Léa admirers here :) - here is a French interview which hints at an English accent. Also confirmation of a scene. L'Est Republicain interview

    Are you comfortable acting in English?

    Since I like accents, I practiced with a coach at my request. I've never done so in French, but it could be interesting. French, oddly enough, is a very complicated language for cinema. It is a flat, harsh language, and it struck me several times to the fact that it lacks musicality. English is more pliable and malleable to play (act).

    How it like being the next French James Bond girl Madeleine Swann, an eminently Proustian name?

    This kind of action film is a large machine, for which it is highly prepared. I have for example a scene in which I dismantle a gun. I had to see the head of the weapons thirty times to know how to do it, to be ready at the time of the shooting, to have a fast and efficient movement.

    I am glad that this gun dismantling scene is still in the script and that Léa is going to do this for real (and not her stunt double.)


    Thank you for this info and confirmation of an element in the script! @leas_mole
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