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I like Dalton but I tend to agree. Even being an accomplished stage actor Dalton so needed a real director to help create his Bond. Young and Campbell both accomplished that with their respective Bond introductions.
Mendes tried but took the edge away from Craig's Bond. Less blunt more tired and withered. Still loved SF. With SP Craig's Bond just became self parody. Craig playing Craig's Bond. Moore did the same especially in his later Bonds but I still loved Moore as Bond.
With SP, it's the first time I thought Craig was channeling something rather than being himself. In that respect I found his performance strangely early Brosnan'esque. In fact, somewhat controversially, I might say I prefer Brosnan as Bond in DAD to Craig as Bond in SP (credibility zapping sacrilege I realize), but I'm not sure if that's on account of the film, or the acting.
Thank you ...and yes I agree. Brosnan certainly seemed more memorable to me in DAD than Craig in SP.
Only exception for me at least is the L'American scene. Not really sure how Fleming that scene is but it's at least memorable.
Plus the CGI mouse was cute.
Agreed. He had a rapport with Moore, who became better in the Glen films (yes, even AVTAK--RIP Tibbett). And he knew how to direct action, which has been a problem for all of the post-Glen directors save Campbell.
Spottiswoode was quite good as well (TND)
Definitely agree.
That's why im glag he didn't get the part for the living Daylights or Licence to kill. Hecwas a little too young even i admit in Goldeneye still looked a bitt too young so i think him and Craig definitely improved as their films advanced.
LTK is a dog of a film compared to CR.
LTK wants the graphic violence and 'grown up storyline but still wants Bond waterskiing behind a plane without ski's and making trucks do wheelies. The film just doesn't work.
And as I mentioned before, Dalton's performance is overdone and unnatural. Far removed from his relaxed and skillfull turn in TLD.
As for Kamen's score, it's one of the worst of the series. It overuses the Bond theme all through the film and adds that awful Spanish guitar. Horrible soundtrack.
Agree that Craig excelled in this scene and the Mr White one but I do feel his SP performance was, I hesitate to use the word weakest as all of his performances are damn good, the one he put least effort into. Not saying he phoned it in by any stretch but I don't think he was pushing himself like he did in the other 3. Of course he wasn't helped by the script at all with its schizophrenic detour into almost Moore territory during the car chase.
No doubt @BondJasonBond006 will say this is because he is comfortable in the role now and he was playing proper Bond of old but I'm not really having that.
I feel a lot more Fleming Bond from him in his first three than at any time during SP.
I find it difficult to argue with these points although wouldn't quite go as far as to call it a dog of a film. It's certainly overrated by people who think it's some sort of Fleming-esque masterpiece though.
I will pull you up on the waterskiing sequence which is classic Bond but you are bang on about the wheelie. An utterly inane moment in a very good action sequence.
You're spot on with Kamem as well. Terrible score but I'll give him the nod over Newman's SP efforts as at least you feel Kamem was trying.
Licence To Kill sucked.
It looked like Miami Vice, it sounded like Die Hard, the vehicle stuntwork was out a Smoky & The Bandit flick, the main villain reminded me of a bad guy in The Goonies, the actresses looked like Three's Company sitcom rejects, the wardrobe was recycled wrinkled junk from American Gigolo, and the hair stylist was clearly drunk during the shoot.
What a waste.
Of money.
:))
Was I convincing there?
Some people should learn to have fun and take a movie for what it is, entertainment to get away from the daily worries. Spectre does that very successfully, as almost all of the past Bond movies did.
This 100% ^:)^
I think that's enough LTK-bashing from me, but the only other film I find difficult to swallow at times is TWINE, which has almost nothing going for it in my opinion.
It was overused in the PTS! Let alone the rest of the film!
Indeed.
:-O
Oh come on, if all you heard through the entire film was the Bond theme you'd be sick of it by the end! It would get boring very quickly.
It's a great theme but to use it relentlessly through a whole film wouldn't work. It would get tedious. Which is why John Barry mixed it up with music based on the title songs and his own Bond compositions. He never just played the Bond theme over and over again. But then what did he know eh?
Having said that, I don't mind the LTK score at all. It's a unique blend of Kamen's signature action sound, some Latin influences, and the Bond theme. Distinctive in the canon, as are all the one-off scores, which I actually prefer to 'house' composer David Arnold's first three efforts.
It's not used relentlessly through the film. It's used during the PTS, When Bond steals Sanchez's plane after escaping the Wavekrest and during the last half of the tanker chase. That's in full. Then there are other somber moments when it's used but it's never relentless. No Bond movie has ever overused the Bond theme. In fact it's been so heavily underused in the last 10 years it's annoying.
I wasn't talking about LTK. YOU said it was impossible to overuse the Bond theme. A frankly absurd comment which is why I explained John Barry's way of doing a Bond score.
It's great when the Bond theme suddenly appears during a Bond film as long as its used sparingly.
Relax will ya. We're all friendly here. It's not obsurd, It's an opinion.
But you are welcome to your opinion....
I'm with you mate but sounds like we're fighting a losing battle.
It seems people want the Bond theme like it is used in games to tell them every time something Bondian happens rather than weaved into an overall score like Barry used to do.
It wouldn't have hurt in SPECTRE. I'll take the Bond theme over lazy rehashed music from the last film.