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  • VirageVirage
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    ^ Blind Spot?
  • dragonskydragonsky
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    Ok, on the vein of TMWTGG when Bond shoots Scaramenga. We see Bond's gun fall off into oblivion, but he someone finds a loaded pistol. Furthermore he slips into the Bond suit of Scaramenga's wax figure without Nic Nak seeing it on the camera. Can anyone explain this?
    (when you notice something like that, a wizard did it-Zena to geeks in the Simpsons)
    i like to think that nic nac let bond kill scaramanga cause nic nac hated to be someone elses servant
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Thanks for the replies. I totally forgot that he stated the scars were from the explosions. My favorite Bond film, and I can't even remember that. Maybe the angle that Bond was watching from made it look like Ourumov shot him, when in reality, it was to the right or left of his face.
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    Creasy47 said:
    Thanks for the replies. I totally forgot that he stated the scars were from the explosions. My favorite Bond film, and I can't even remember that. Maybe the angle that Bond was watching from made it look like Ourumov shot him, when in reality, it was to the right or left of his face.

    GoldenEye is my favorite as well!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I've gotten to the point where I can't watch GoldenEye without wanting to quote it.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Of all the things at the end of The Man With The Golden Gun to discuss, I'd like to know how M got the number of Scaramanga's boat in order to contact Bond!
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    @Samuel001: Hahaha! I've never noticed that before. That's a fail!
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Alright, I have to mention this. Can anyone enlighten me on why Charles Gray appeared in YOLT as Dikko Henderson, then four years later as Blofeld in DAF? The first time I saw YOLT I thought "wow this guy looks familiar. Is that Gray?". Why did EON do this? Did Gray impress them so much and they felt Henderson died too quick so they brought Gray back as Blofeld????
    Err - hes just an actor. It would be a pretty pointless career path if you were only allowed to play one character.

    Although perhaps what youre getting at is why were EON so blown away by his performance as Henderson that he landed lead villain in DAF?

    I would say one or both of the following:
    1. He was a drinking/gambling pal of Harry and Cubbys.
    2. After breaking the bank to get Sean back on board the DAF budget was creaking so they needed to go for a nobody (no offence Charles) as Blofeld.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    @Samuel001: Hahaha! I've never noticed that before. That's a fail!
    One of the biggest in the series if you think about it. I thought many people knew about that one.
  • anotherbondgeekanotherbondgeek
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    There's plenty of logical questions - how did Blofeld build the volcano base, how did Drax build his space station, etc etc. You've just got to take them with a pinch of salt - it's Bond, it's escapist, not realistic.
  • anotherbondgeekanotherbondgeek
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    Still, there's one thing that's always annoyed me. Helga Brandt, after meeting Bond disguised as someone else, says to Blofeld "But Bond is dead! It was in all the papers!"

    At Bond's funeral at the start, a man's reading a newspaper. Most of the front page is taken up by a picture of Bond. Why didn't Brandt recognise him then, considering she's read all the papers?
  • Hank_ScorpioHank_Scorpio
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    ^ I think she might have been lying to try and save herself to Blofeld.

    A lot of YOLT doesn't make sense, more so than DAF.
  • DB5DB5
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    Well I'm sorry, how Oddjob gets in to Bond's hotel room in GF is still #1 in my book. And no Gerard, I don;t think that Bond would just "leave the windows open." Why would he do that? I mean, I know it gets hot in Miami Beach, but it's not like they didn't have air conditioning in 1964! And it's not like he hasn't had unannounced guests in his hotel room before; the tarantula in DN, Tatiana in FRWL. Maybe Goldfinger had some type of "Star Trek" transporter that allowed him to "beam" Oddjob into Bond's room!
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited July 2011 Posts: 13,355
    I don;t think that Bond would just "leave the windows open." Why would he do that? I mean, I know it gets hot in Miami Beach, but it's not like they didn't have air conditioning in 1964!
    Bond as a character in the novels, actually prefers open windows to air conditioning, so who knows. ;-)
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Maybe Oddjob is under the bed the whole time? As the camera follows Bond and his ear muffs rant he sneaks out, quickly snaps Jills neck (as I've always wondered why she never bothered to inform Bond someone was about to bash him on the head) and then sneaks up behind Bond and into shot.
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    @DB5: Considering how strong Oddjob is, I would suspect that he just wrenched the door knob off with his bare hands, thus breaking the lock. Then he could just push the door open with no problems.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    Although perhaps what youre getting at is why were EON so blown away by his performance as Henderson that he landed lead villain in DAF?

    I would say one or both of the following:
    1. He was a drinking/gambling pal of Harry and Cubbys.
    2. After breaking the bank to get Sean back on board the DAF budget was creaking so they needed to go for a nobody (no offence Charles) as Blofeld.
    Indeed. That's probably why neither Savalas nor Pleasance were considered for DAF.


  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited July 2011 Posts: 11,189
    I've gotten to the point where I can't watch GoldenEye without wanting to quote it.
    Haha, I'm well into that stage. It's probably the only Bond film where I can recite the dialogue for an entire scene.
    Maybe Oddjob is under the bed the whole time? As the camera follows Bond and his ear muffs rant he sneaks out, quickly snaps Jills neck (as I've always wondered why she never bothered to inform Bond someone was about to bash him on the head) and then sneaks up behind Bond and into shot.
    He was probably just hiding in the kitchen the whole time, snuck up on Bond and then went to kill Jill. In regard to something that doesn't make sense, how do Bond and Pussy manage to eject so quickly? One second Connery isn't even in the co-pilot seat, the next a seperate dot on the scanner is seen.

    Also, as I've said quite a few times on here, how does Shady Tree open the coffin in DAF without getting his hands burned? It was in the incinerator only a few seconds before.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @BAIN, exact same here, haha. Almost the entirety of the first thirty or forty minutes of the film involves me quoting along.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    @creasy47

    I've got the "Same passions" score on my ipod. Played it today, found myself quoting the entire scene to the music in my head :-S
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    @BAIN123 and Creasy47: Same with me. The two scenes that I can't go without quoting at least partially are the casino scene with Xenia and the interrogation scene with Ourumov and Dimitri Mischkin.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    The interrogation scene with Ourumov and Dimitri is one of my favorites to quote. Amazing. Along with the banter between Alec and James in the beginning of the film.
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    @Creasy47: That one is nice too! I'd also throw in the chat between Bond and Trevelyan in the "graveyard for statues". That one has some very quote-able lines!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I wouldn't be able to quote that part for my life, 00Beast. There's so much! Haha. Maybe one day, hopefully.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    Alright, I have to mention this. Can anyone enlighten me on why Charles Gray appeared in YOLT as Dikko Henderson, then four years later as Blofeld in DAF? The first time I saw YOLT I thought "wow this guy looks familiar. Is that Gray?". Why did EON do this? Did Gray impress them so much and they felt Henderson died too quick so they brought Gray back as Blofeld????
    Charles Gray played both Dikko Henderson and Blofeld..

    Maud Adams played both Andrea Anders and Octopussy..

    Robert Brown played both Admiral Hardgreaves and M (although, one could say that the admiral was promoted into the position... still, nevertheless)

    Joe Don Baker played both Brad Whitaker and Jack Wade..

    it seems to be a trend in Bond... if they (the producers) like an actor enough, i guess they will invite them back in different roles if need be.... i have no problem with it - i think it's kind of fun in a way. lol.

  • GerardGerard
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    Here's one from YOLT: We know that Blofeld's volcano can be accessed by the sea through a tunnel. However, that tunnel is protected by a deadly poison gas. So, how come nobody dies when Bond, Kissy, the ninjas and (presumably) the members of SPECTRE still alive escape the erupting volcano by that same tunnel ?
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited July 2011 Posts: 11,189
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    I wouldn't be able to quote that part for my life, 00Beast. There's so much! Haha. Maybe one day, hopefully.
    I can quote all of that scene :-s
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2011 Posts: 15,713
    "What's the matter James ? No glib remark? No pity comeback ?"

    I used to be able to quote GE from end to finish (watched it way too much as a kid)...
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited July 2011 Posts: 11,189
    Why?
    Hilarious question, particularly from you. Did u ever ask why? Why we toppled all those dictators, undermined all those regimes, only to come home well done good job but sorry old boy. Everything you've risked ur life and limb for has changed.
    It was the job we were chosen for.
    Of course ud say that. James Bond...her majestys loyal terrier, defender of the so called faith...o please James put it away...it's insulting to think I haven't anticipated ur every move...
    Yes...I trusted u Alec.
    Trust...what a quaint idea
    How did the Mi6 screening miss that ur parents were liens Cossacks?
    Once again ur faith is misplaced..,they knew. We're both orphans James... but where ur parents had the luxury of dying in a climbing accident mine survived the British betrayal and Stalin's execution squads. But my father couldn't let himself or my mother live with the shame of it. Mi6 figured I was too young to remember... and in one of lifes little ironies... the son went to work for the government whose betrayal... caused the father to kill himself and his wife!
    :p
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Probably the last Bond film with good dialogue.
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