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Shoot me in the face.
I have to stop reading this discussion about timeline now. Don't think EON could care less about being consistent with the timeline. They do, and will take liberties according to the production and release date of the films.
Exactly.
That doesn't change the fact that it's borderline idiotic and makes no logical sense, especially when several years are passing between film releases and yet people are supposed to believe that events take place shortly after the prior film when viewing it (particularly in the case of QoS and SP).
So I don't care personally, but I can understand how some can't get their heads around it, and I don't blame them. It's not their fault that the film makers are being too clever by half.
Bond films don't need connecting narrative tissue at all.
It's awkward, boring and a blight on the Craig era.
Thank Christ he's been an excellent Bond.
You mean Bond wasn't secretly concealing another suit in the Aston so he could change before kidnapping White?
Yes, that explains it. And the car chase lasted two full years.
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Apparently not.
Not quite.
This is basically correct.
Didn't Oldman already turn a Bond role down a few years back?
Although, I believe Oldman would have been a fantastic Blofeld. Not a cat stroking man on a wheelchair at a control panel giving orders, but the real head of the snake who would terrorize Bond in and out of his nightmares with the back of his hand. Physically and psychologically. The kind of Blofeld we should've gotten in all these years.
I agree that he could have been an excellent Blofeld. A real menace.
Hopefully they consider him for a villain role in the future.
Could've taken Bond 2 years to track down Mr White. He certainly seems to have his swagger back in that final scene compared to the depressed bloke who wants to resign a minute earlier.
There's a thread for this somewhere but the simple explanation is that the last scene of CR and all of QOS take place in 08.
Or to rephrase, never thought the 'not giving a monkey about continuity in the Bond films' group would be the minority in the fandom.
You may be right, though Bond seems to be still suffering for Vesper's death. Also, at the beginning of QoS Bond and M discuss about CIA being angry because they didn't get LeChiffre's body, something they should have complained two years earlier.
You're saying it took Bond two years to find Mr. White when Vesper gave him the means to find him quickly.
Meanwhile, it was the Eon publicity machine that made a big deal about "direct sequel." If it hadn't made that such a point of emphasis, then it's a lot easier to overlook.
For those who say you don't care, that's fine. It's all the over-the-top attempts to explain it away that get hard to take. Again, the whole purpose of Vesper getting White's phone number to Bond was so he could track him down quickly. Bond could not assume White would hold onto to the phone indefinitely.
Put another way, her getting Bond that phone number was a major dramatic plot point for Casino Royale. If you assume Bond leisurely took two years to get around to getting White, then Vesper's act is pretty pointless.
There is a note in IMDb's trivia section that Oldman was sought to play Blofeld before Waltz. Though I doubt this is true - mainly as the role of Oberhauser/Blofeld was pretty much written directly for Waltz (right down to the nationality of the character). The role was tailor-made for Waltz - which is one of the reasons it was so creatively bereft.
Oldman made a career playing outlandish villains in the 90s. Personally, I enjoyed his reinvention as a more paternal figure with roles in the Batman films and Tinker Tailor. Maybe Oldman would have made a good Mallory in SF? Then again, Fiennes is terrific and the role may have been a tad too similar to Commissioner Gordon for Gary (SF gets a hard enough time already for being a TDK rip-off).
As for the timeline? I think its pretty obvious it takes place within minutes of CR ending. The finale of CR takes place within days of the scene with Bond and M talking by phone. Who cares about the date on the invite?
I suppose it's the whole point of fan culture to argue about the minutiae...but honestly; who gives a shit? EON clearly don't. All this talk of what is "cannon" and what isn't bores me to death. I'd hate to let you in on the secret; but none of this stuff is real and none of it really happened.
Why are we bothering to give any semblance of reality to something that is so evidently not real?
No, he's saying CR takes place in 2008 in the context of QoS. Floating timeline. Look it up.
Thank you, @Minion. I've just finished smashing my skull into a brick wall.