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They need to "check their seals".
cheers,
expanding on the idea (I need help with this) Swann did not meet Lucia in the movie, is it OK to assume they have never met? I like the idea of the audience learning of Lucia's status (perhaps as part of a PTS - receiving orders from Blofeld) and then her "undercover" meeting Swann so the audience are ahead of Swann. They could meet in a cafe and enjoy "girly banter" , shop for handbags or some other cliche with Swann having no idea the danger she was in. Good potential for tension. Bond could ask M to be Swanns "guardian angel" by monitoring CCTV feeds and updating him as he is away on business. Q recognises Lucia (digital face recognition) and sends the live feed to Bond's watch. Lucia is carrying a mobile phone blocking device so Bond cant reach her. Bond tries to work out why Lucia would bump into Swann at the shops and "the pennny drops". Not only does he realise Swann is in danger but also that Lucia set him up during "Spectre".
Bond races from his semi near location to the smaller town - a race against time, with the video feed on the dashboard. Traffic, level crossings etc delaying him and ratcheting up the tension (his sat nav giving a countdown to how close he is) whilst Swann chats to her new friend about jewellery etc
But its too late. Lucia kills Swann, and looks up at the CCTV camera, she knows/suspects Bond has been watching, calmly reapplying her lipstick and blowing a kiss to the camera. Bond and Q watch the murder live but helpless.
So we have a semi tribute to OHMSS in that Bond is in his car but he is denied the opportunuity of contact. In a digital/facebook age, he sees the murder of his loved one streamed live. A much colder version of death than offered to Lazemby's Bond. But, for the audience, less emotional as we have the rest of the movie to get through.
We then move on a couple of years as we dont want all the gubbins of another funeral etc so we see a "recovered" Bond.
So we have the first 15 mins or so and a set up with a decent, new villain, Swann out of the way, Bond on a mission and Blofeld nicely out of the way for 150 mins.
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Basically, in plain English, stop being a bunch of miserable bastards.
The reason this goes around in circles is because the same glass half empty gits keep pushing the same rhetoric of doom and gloom. Take a leaf out of @Shardlake's book. Someone who, I think it's fair to say, hates SP, but is still keeping an optimistic and open mind regard the next instalment. This discussion isn't about EON being lazy, it's about looking to what they can do, not what they have done, because at this juncture we know nothing. If they suddenly announce Bond turns gay, fill your boots.
In the main time how about showing even a slither of optimism, rather than the same tawdry, highfalutin nonsense about how bloody awful EON are.
The only misery I've seen here today are people insulting other members in a veiled manner. If some are having a hard time perhaps it's time to take a break, or offer up some suggestions for B25 to counter the theories which they don't like. Maybe it will catch on, maybe it won't, but it's worth a try.
"Fee-fi-fo-fum, i smell the blood of an ungrateful bunch of bar-steds"
You keep telling yourself that, mate. It's clear to me what people's agendas are. I'll leave it there, though. It is a fruitless exercise and I should know better.
Hahaha I love Partridge,when he slags off working in London.
I know EXACTLY how he feels after 29 years of commuting,believe me !!
The moods shift here from day to day anyway. It's never all in one direction and those who feel that way need to take a break imho.
Sorry, but if you read the link they're talking about Bond 25 on there, which is what I was referring to - please look before you leap.
Lovely stuff!
Fail to see any insults in recent posts either. Don't stir a pot when it has no need of stirring.
There have been, deleted now by the mods.
I was comparing with their thoughts on that website about Bond 25 - hence why I included the link!!!!
I'm not casting negative aspersions on anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I'm not allowed opinion, maybe I should go on a different Bond forum? Bit ridiculous to think I was insulting anyone to be frank.
OK
It's very clear to everyone what you were doing, so don't worry about it.
And that is?
Agendas? You know that there are pills against these syndromes?
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@patb, I'm not sure if I like the idea of the two ladies shopping together. A bit pedestrian imho. Moreover, isn't Lucia under some kind of witness protection program given Spectre has her in their sights?
I like the idea of Bond suspecting her duplicity via some sudden impression, like he did Mathis in CR. Perhaps he can even reference his mistake there as he reveals his suspicions to Felix, because he's doubting himself.
You were making a very viable comparison. There are posters on here who share the same outlook as those over on DCINB.
I was merely comparing the negativity between the two - which is a fact. THe link in question was negative about Bond 25 as are some posters on here. These two things are very comparable as both are being negative about Bond 25. Merely pointing that out - don't understand why that would cause such consternation - bit confused to be honest.
Moore is being spared only because he passed this year. Otherwise there were a few who used to blast him at every opportunity as well.
Only King Sean and Laz (because he only did one) are generally spared.
Well I like them all.
Mate, I completely agree with you. The old Doom Squad don't like having their cages rattled. Nothing to worry about, it was a sound comparison.
Ditto.
No, that was a set up. (in my story) Bond/MI6 fell for the story of Lucia being a witness/whistleblower. The plan made the info seem real to Bond but it was a setup so Bond would attend the meeting and. ultimately, be drawn to Blofelds lair ("the author of ALL your pain" - it was a set up)
What hard evidence did Bond get (and the audience) that she was a genuine witness?
Do you not think it would be a more prudent/positive step forward to shed as many links to SP as possible? We've all accepted it didn't resonate as favourably as it's predecessor, so I wonder if the fewer characters that carry over, the better. Feels to me like they need a feeling of freshness, not unlike the SF opener four years after QoS.