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Absobloodyexactly.
Given the choice between just one film every 4 years or saturation coverage which will give us gems such as Tanner Begins, McBond Happy Meals and The Lego Bond Movie ('Hilarious spy antics for all the family' Mark Kermode) I'm happy for my Bond content to only come around as regularly as world cups.
you think this is aimed at 10 year olds? there is massive potential for grown up kids like us to spend money on toys..
https://geekculture.co/new-lego-star-wars-ucs-millennium-falcon-75192-to-launch-from-oct-2017/
I also want these:
https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/comment/760687/#Comment_760687
And this:
https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/comment/712547/#Comment_712547
Ditto.
Sorry, you're way off. 'Lego Ideas' had a DB5 submitted, but it couldn't even muster enough votes to go into production. In terms of geek culture Bond has no purchase, so the comparison bears no weight.
"it did very well for itself, and the $100+ million WB earns from its box office performance (not to mention, merchandising and home media release) is more than enough to bankroll another project set within the LEGO film universe. "
http://screenrant.com/lego-batman-movie-box-office/
The Lego Bond movie would be so much fun.....
perfect example of expanding a brand into new areas.
Except for GoldenEye 007, considered one of the greatest FPS's of all time.
'Well, that all sounds lovely.'
But it's not all that rosy.
Lego is set to axe 1,400 jobs in a company-wide “reset” after figures showed falling sales in Europe and the US.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/lego-axes-1400-jobs-in-reset-amid-falling-sales-a3627281.html?amp
If they can't make the figures work, even with the monumentally popular SW tie-ins, let alone Marvel/DC, I would suggest they won't be viewing the incredibly expensive Bond IP as the answer to their problems.
I'll certainly give you that. Beyond that we're getting a little thin on the ground.
https://deadline.com/2017/09/martin-campbell-treasure-of-ali-baba-the-40-thieves-casino-royale-1202158705/
For anyone hoping he was in the running for Bond 25.
http://deadline.com/2017/09/martin-campbell-treasure-of-ali-baba-the-40-thieves-casino-royale-1202158705/
Indeed.
People need to be very wary investing money on the assumption that Bond is merely a cash cow with juicer udders than Fiona Volpe just waiting to be milked.
Star Wars is in an entirely different league in terms of merchandising and box office. It's utterly inconceivable that Episode 8 won't clear 1bil but I'd say for B25 to get to 1bil the odds are about 60/40 against.
The Bond audience covers all age groups from teenagers to OAPs. Star Wars and Marvel are far more reliant on the under 30s market to make their money. And it's this 16-35 fanboy group that makes you money in terms of repeat viewings, merchandise, gaming etc. I'm just not sure us few on here who would buy a Lego SPECTRE volcano set retailing at £300 is sufficient to make it worth their while.
Just look at the thread on the Bond convention in Spain the other day. There's about 40 people there. Star Wars gets thousands in every town. The fan spending power simply isn't there.
GE64 was a massive seller because of its seminal gameplay. We were just lucky that Rare ended up with the Bond rights rather than another franchise. The Bond name didn't shift millions of units the fact it was one of the best games ever made did. Put a Star Wars or Mission Impossible skin on GE and it would have been regarded as equally groundbreaking and sold just as many.
I hadn't thought about all that, but now that you mention it it becomes so terrible clear.
Spot on. The films maintain and rely on huge international appeal, but in terms of fandom, Bond is comparatively niche next to the behemoths.
Some people use hyperbole, @Germanlady, and when they do, it's best to let go, because if they must resort to such exaggerations, it's typically a sign of having a fairly weak case anyway. When one counters those exaggerated statements, one is only going to play the game at the same unstable level. And that always leads to personal conflicts. The discussion about Craig then quickly becomes a mere vessel for the exchange of personal insults.
I'm sure, @Germanlady, you won't mind me saying that you have a fairly unique talent for staying perfectly cool under such circumstances; you don't let your guard down while others furiously try to outsmart you. You effortlessly relight a dying fire with two words and boom!, your intellectual opponent can go nuclear again. To be honest, I don't mind. I often find it amusing and I often agree with you, and then sometimes I disagree with you and, oh well, there you go, that just means we're normal people.
But once the discussion has reached boiling point and things get nasty, that's the proper time to let go, to in fact make some kind of amends. I lashed out pretty hotheadedly in the religion thread, but some of my "opponents" there, like @Dragonpol for example, know that I still profoundly respect them and in other threads, we mostly see things eye to eye. You need to test the water and find out when the time is right to break the ice and move on, with a joke if needs be. So what if that person was screaming for Daniel Craig's head? Hyperbole. Craig himself wanted to slit his wrists, remember? Hyperbole. I bet the member who wanted his head will be one of the first to check out Bond 25 in theatres. And he will come back here and tell us what he thought about it. And you may or may not like it. And he may or may not formulate his opinion intensely and impulsively. Said opinion may be loud and it may irritate you. But it is what it is and going ballistic on it won't change it but rather intensify it; or rather still, divert our attention from the actual debate and end up as pointless bickering. And then the indecency of the comments is pushed ever further, until the first one to explode types the fatal comment, attacking the other's gender, nationality, profession, ... The mod team must then suddenly reprimand the exploded one for his conduct. But what if said member's only "mistake" was to use a few stronger words many days ago, words which infuriated you, resulting in a game of wits and egos which said member then lost and in an ugly way? A lot of trouble and chaos for no reason, other than that you took some creative wordplay personally.
I would like to do something different this time, and ask our members, in general, not to get too defensive or offensive simply because someone spills his or her guts about a film, an actor, a crew member, ... Say what you want to say, complain if you must, but don't make it a personal fight. It's not worth it. If you love Craig, but someone else decides to have some fun with colourful overstatements, let it happen! Let it pass. Reply if you must, but don't get personal. Craig doesn't know you. Craig doesn't know you exist. Craig couldn't care less whether you're defending him against a few harsher words. Craig isn't god. Don't fight crusades in his name. We're not the Taliban! We don't burn down embassies over an insulting cartoon. So when someone here "cartoonishly" tares down Craig, don't make it a personal thing. Laugh it off, shrug it off, or do nothing at all.
The "problem" with this forum isn't that it keeps Craig haters oppressed. The "problem" with this forum isn't that it hates Brosnan but loves Craig. The "problem" with this forum is that there is no problem with this forum, even if some here can't seem to let a single day pass without making claims to the contrary. That some members can be very specific about how much they loath Craig isn't a problem, it's a reality. That some here retaliate with fury isn't a problem, it's a reality. But that we strongly encourage both parties to avoid such conflicts is also a reality, necessitated by the fact that some of our beloved members will take everything personally. And the funny thing is that they always franticly look for a conflict, and then complain about it! And then the mods have to magically resolve the issue with a single post or a warning or a ban. And if we can't or won't, the conflict seekers leave. That reality, ladies and gentlemen, is a kindergarten reality, and it has no business being here.
To some I'd like to say: man up! To others I'd like to say: put a cork in it! Some have a burning desire to provoke, others to strike back hard. But neither know how to handle it well. And then it's all about, "I'm leaving because this place is [insert clumsy over-generalisation here]" and "Mods, I can't believe you let that person get away with calling me [insert insults here]". It really isn't very different from a toddler crying, "nobody likes my brand of corn flakes!" and "miss! MISS! He called me names!". Well, get this in your system: this is a forum about all things Bond, and all things Bond is quite a lot, and people will like some bits and loath other bits, and if that's a problem, go set up a personal blog, type your guts out but be sure never to share it with the rest of the world because--[insert ominous music]--someone just . might . disagree...
Thank you.
As already said, they can try but they will certainly fail. On TV maybe, but never ever on screen.
Some of you fail to see the profound differences between the Bond franchise and all others, but it's there nevertheless.
It has it's audience all over the world, but it's not as huge as Star Wars or Marvel.
From time to time they go beyond that and grow the base (TSWLM, GE or SF), but it doesn't happen often.
Running round with a plastic PPK like Star Wars geeks do with lightsabres is the antithesis of Bondian cool.
If it's half as good as the Lego Batman movie, then I'd really watch it.
That explains why I can't get over Bond. I've been asking myself for 6.5 years.
I included all 7 companies that are in the race right now as far as we know. Please vote!
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/sep/06/james-bond-distribution-rights-amazon-apple
I can't imagine Apple actually winning this, though. Have they even had any success content wise? I mean, I know they've got to start somewhere, but surely not with something as historic as Bond? Amazon's at least built up a track record.
That said, I'm stilling pulling for Warners (or even Annapurna, if that's still on). Whoever it ends up being, above all else just get on a regular schedule (preferably two years, but at least lock in to a regular release pattern, whatever it is).
I'm in agreement that the franchise should not undergo a 'universe' expansion. I can only imagine the results feeling contrived.
I'm open to the idea of a series period adaptation of the novels, but would be cautious.
Either way, Amazon and/or Apple wouldn't be crucial to achieve it.
Never going to happen.