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It's so irksome I'm starting to get my nickers (sic) in a twist.
I was just going to say that Wiz,you beat me to it.
Not being English is indeed something to be truly sorry for!
It was just the cards I was given. Fate and all that jazz. But I'll make due. :))
Bonds evolves to fit it's audience of the time. The reboot in 2006 was to reclaim a more serious note with gauntlet laid down by Bourne. Perfect challenge for the franchise at the right time. Obtaining Casinos rights was also the perfect receipe. Dalton tried it in his tenure to match other action flicks with a serious edge. Brosnan admits himself beyond Goldeneye everything is a blur. He admitted himself he wished he had done things differently and had spoken up and had more input. Brosnan actually sounds jealous of what Craig has achieved but acknowedges the reasons why, that Craig demand it be done his way no pastiche, no invisible cars etc.
But Brosnan was the victim of his time EON tried to mimic other popular films with technology at the forefront. Austin Powers also made things difficult. It was funnier to mock Bond elements than draw an audience to watch a spy thriller. This was 90's Brit pop age and like the 60's rock movement establishment was not cool. A government spy wasn't a cool thing. Very same reason why Lazenby quit. Lazenby got caught up with Rowan of radio Caroline which trapped George in a world of parties, drugs and free love. He convinced George to quit, cause playing a government killer was not groovy man!.
If you want an indication of what comes after the Craig tenure look at what is going down well with the audience in the year prior. Because Bond will morph and reinvent to survive. Just like Madonna.
Look at Babs comments. "Bond can't ever go back, it always has to move forward and evolve".
So no retro reboot.
I could pick a side, for a price. Unless of course one of you is a West Ham fan in which case I got your back no questions asked.
But seriously @Panchito, I'm not a TND fan either (can't fault it until Bond leaves Hamburg but it falls apart so badly towards the end that I reckon it's Pierce's worst) but it's all subjective. Can someone liking a certain film really annoy you that much to the point where you decide any opinions they have from now on are meaningless? Making big grand right or wrong statements about something as subjective as movies (or anything, remember when you said Radiohead were 100% doing the theme song for SP?) is pointless, and insulting/devaluing others over their personal taste is even worse.
Really? Well, I say it as well, just as SP. Pretentious movies with no substance whatsoever. SF looks quite good though.
I agree with much of your post. Bond does always evolve to meet the times at a broad level. It has to and that has always been the way. However, whenever there is an actor change, the tone changes to fit the sensibilities of such actor as well. If they cast someone who can properly capture that lighter tone going forward, then they can easily remind the audience of the more playful past while still embracing the complex realities of today. Conversely, if they don't, then we will continue on the ultra serious and somewhat dour path that has been set since 2006.
The idea, that casino royale developed the way it did because Craig demanded it to me is completely ridiculous. They hired Craig because they wanted the way it developed.
And they hired him because blonde heroes suddenly were all the rage. Personally I happen to think that it was not Bourne only, but especially the avent of 24 that forced them to react. Kiefer looked tough and menacing and what starring in an extremely thrilling show running on free TV every week. To me this is what really made them change direction. This and 9/11 of course.
Also, Brosnan gave many interviews during the 90s in which he said that he hoped he could get the franchise in a more darker and realistic direction. He wasn't allowed but that's not his fault that's EON's fault.
Only if you adhere to sunburn.
I did a thread on that a while back re DAD & did 9/11 influence its direction.Its on here somewhere and got some good conversations.
I love you too.
I am still lobbying for making Oberhauser a busybody working for Spectre but only pretending to be Blofeld, just to impress his much hated step brother. This way we would get rid of the most embarrassing brothergate and could reinvent a real menacing and threatening Blofeld.
Call me arrogant but none of the ideas and suggestions I have read here on the forum even comes close.
Thank you very much. Go Stick that Love where the Sun Never shines.
Which just shows the task EON have ahead of them !
I like B. and D. above as well. D. more than B. because I don't want them riffing off another iconic film in an obvious way in B25.
It's well documented Craig only agreed to come on board if the silly stuff wasn't going to feature. He had just worked with Spielberg on Munich to critical acclaim. To say he was hired cause he is blond is both ludicrous and ill-informed.
As for the comments on Brosnan
He opted, in the end, to “go with the flow”, and to “enjoy the great experience of traveling the world and being this character”.
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/pierce-brosnan/49217/pierce-brosnan-wished-his-bond-had-gone-darker
@Germanlady You are the voice of reason and sanity! I wish you posted more often in this thread.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pJOm2mRHDE0
You might be German, but you are certainly no lady.
LOL hahahahahaha that's amazing.
Do you really think they would have hired someone with his face if they had wanted to stay on the old track? If anything Craigs face screams "realism!" Not suave playboy the sixth
Also, I remember an interview with him long before casino royale it was released where he was asked what he did when he got to the new James Bond. He said it was on the cell phone while he was on the go and the next thing he did was going to pop ordering a beer and thinking this might be the last time that he was able to do so. So if seems he was told they take him not that he told EON he was willing to do the job. Of course he wanted the job. He knew that it would make him rich beyond belief. Something he realistically couldn't expect otherwise from his career.
You know I'm right.