No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Do we really need more bloody emotion ?!

    Babs and Craig clearly think so. Personally, I think they dipped their toe into the formula Bond and got burned with SP. I think they are running back to what they know best, and pushing that direction hard.
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    Boyle is very adept at dry,dark humour with his films as well,just to break up the tension when needed.
    Especially in Trainspotting and Shallow Grave.
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    I think Boyle is known for character, but he's equally known for humour. He's a filmmaker who makes heartfelt stories with engaging, often charismatic characters.

    In contrast to someone like Sam Mendes, his style is much less earnest and "serious". You wouldn't get much naval-gazing from Boyle. He's a bit too self-depreciating and self-aware for Cambridge-educated diatribes regarding overly considered themes.

    However, watch any interview with him and you can see his passion and enthusiasm. He talks very intelligently about his films and the importance of them. He's an "arty" director, but his remit is to entertain and never speak down to an audience. You'd never catch Danny Boyle making something as self-serving and onerous a film as "Revolutionary Road".

    I understand people are reticent about another auteur Oscar-winner, but Danny is known for making sharp, kinetic movies which are brimming with energy. His style is more akin to Edgar Wright and he has an abundant creative energy where he's really focused on the visuals.

    Boyle has a hugely stylised sensibility. Which I love, but some I imagine will find his inventive and dutch angles insufferable after a while. I do think his regular DP, Anthony Dod Mantle tends to overly saturate the images, but I could live with it.

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    Boyle will bring a lot of heart and humour. People missing the cheeky irreverence will be more than happy, he's going to direct. But there will certainly be a "serious" element, I also think it's going to be a much more British film especially with Boyle and the current political environment.
  • RC7RC7
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    I think Boyle is known for character, but he's equally known for humour. He's a filmmaker who makes heartfelt stories with engaging, often charismatic characters.

    In contrast to someone like Sam Mendes, his style is much less earnest and "serious". You wouldn't get much naval-gazing from Boyle. He's a bit too self-depreciating and self-aware for Cambridge-educated diatribes regarding overly considered themes.

    However, watch any interview with him and you can see his passion and enthusiasm. He talks very intelligently about his films and the importance of them. He's an "arty" director, but his remit is to entertain and never speak down to an audience. You'd never catch Danny Boyle making something as self-serving and onerous a film as "Revolutionary Road".

    I understand people are reticent about another auteur Oscar-winner, but Danny is known for making sharp, kinetic movies which are brimming with energy. His style is more akin to Edgar Wright and he has an abundant creative energy where he's really focused on the visuals.

    Boyle has a hugely stylised sensibility. Which I love, but some I imagine will find his inventive and dutch angles insufferable after a while. I do think his regular DP, Anthony Dod Mantle tends to overly saturate the images, but I could live with it.

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    Boyle will bring a lot of heart and humour. People missing the cheeky irreverence will be more than happy, he's going to direct. But there will certainly be a "serious" element, I also think it's going to be a much more British film especially with Boyle and the current political environment.

    Excellently put and spot on.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    I think Boyle is known for character, but he's equally known for humour. He's a filmmaker who makes heartfelt stories with engaging, often charismatic characters.

    In contrast to someone like Sam Mendes, his style is much less earnest and "serious". You wouldn't get much naval-gazing from Boyle. He's a bit too self-depreciating and self-aware for Cambridge-educated diatribes regarding overly considered themes.

    However, watch any interview with him and you can see his passion and enthusiasm. He talks very intelligently about his films and the importance of them. He's an "arty" director, but his remit is to entertain and never speak down to an audience. You'd never catch Danny Boyle making something as self-serving and onerous a film as "Revolutionary Road".

    I understand people are reticent about another auteur Oscar-winner, but Danny is known for making sharp, kinetic movies which are brimming with energy. His style is more akin to Edgar Wright and he has an abundant creative energy where he's really focused on the visuals.

    Boyle has a hugely stylised sensibility. Which I love, but some I imagine will find his inventive and dutch angles insufferable after a while. I do think his regular DP, Anthony Dod Mantle tends to overly saturate the images, but I could live with it.

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    Boyle will bring a lot of heart and humour. People missing the cheeky irreverence will be more than happy, he's going to direct. But there will certainly be a "serious" element, I also think it's going to be a much more British film especially with Boyle and the current political environment.

    Yep excellent points.

    'Kinetic' is the word which excites me most there. Everyone at EON is in need of a kick up the arse with an injection of energy which I think Danny will bring.

    And let's not forget the Bond references in Trainspotting and T2 which shows that he and Hodge know their stuff and also have an appreciation for Barry's music so hopefully he won't compromise on not cranking up the Bond theme when it's needed.


  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Boyle has a hugely stylised sensibility. Which I love, but some I imagine will find his inventive and dutch angles insufferable after a while. I do think his regular DP, Anthony Dod Mantle tends to overly saturate the images, but I could live with it.
    This is actually the element that I find most intriguing. After the horrendous washed out palette of the last entry I'm all for a bit of inventiveness and even oversaturation (Bond films used to be that way).

    I can only imagine that the powers realize the positive visual impact that Deakins had on SF. I'm all for weird angles and what not (I love the innovative approach taken for the original MI film from 1996).
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    I think one thing is for sure: he won't produce some "sausage machine" end product. He will bring his own style and tone to the movie and (actually, this is the second thing I'm sure of) , some fans will hate it. It's just the nature of the beast.

    But, at the very least, it will be interesting and certainly stand out from previous bland efforts. As a "flexible fan", who is willing to consider a very wide spectrum, I'm really looking forward to seeing what he will bring to the series.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2018 Posts: 23,883
    patb wrote: »
    I think one thing is for sure: he won't produce some "sausage machine" end product. He will bring his own style and tone to the movie and (actually, this is the second thing I'm sure of) , some fans will hate it. It's just the nature of the beast.

    But, at the very least, it will be interesting and certainly stand out from previous bland efforts. As a "flexible fan", who is willing to consider a very wide spectrum, I'm really looking forward to seeing what he will bring to the series.
    Agreed. This has been an experimental era, and therefore from what I'm reading about him Boyle could very well represent a fitting culmination of the arty Craig run. All roads apparently lead to here. It could even end up being a psychedelic 'high' in more ways than one (Trainspotting).
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    We could get 3 Boyle Bonds for the price of a Spectre.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Will Bond 25 be going back to Scotland? Hodge tends to use that location well.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    echo wrote: »
    Will Bond 25 be going back to Scotland? Hodge tends to use that location well.
    If so I want Kincade back.
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    I also think that it's fair to assume that we will get a darker style of ironic humour (no Sinatra during car chases) and, hopefully a real sense of edgeness and tension. Plus character will be at the core of the movie. (I've no issue with that)

    Time for a Hodge season at home I think. I have not seen Shallow Grave for ages.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    bondjames wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Will Bond 25 be going back to Scotland? Hodge tends to use that location well.
    If so I want Kincade back.
    Kincade gets killed, Bond goes on a revenge mission while running away from MI6... again... ;)
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    An espionage driven plot would excite me very much. If there's anything that's been lacking from the Craig era, it's definitely the "spy" factor. I'd like to see Craig moving along the shadows in a dark outfit with a silenced Walther PPK.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    An espionage driven plot would excite me very much. If there's anything that's been lacking from the Craig era, it's definitely the "spy" factor. I'd like to see Craig moving along the shadows in a dark outfit with a silenced Walther PPK.
    +1

    Like this, perhaps?

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  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I’m surprised at all the negativity. This is great news I think.

    I agree!

    I agree as well.
  • edited March 2018 Posts: 4,603
    Finney is 81 - why not?

    . It is interesting that the harsh, cold and stark features of Scotland are reflected as values within many of Boyles films (leading to the classic question of how artists are effected but their surroundings/upbringing)

    Kincade IMHO was one of the most memorable supporting characters within the series and seemed to have a really good chemistry with Bond (a type of father figure with some wonderful lines) remembering that his screen time was minimal.

    Bringing him back would not be a gimmick in terms of the time line and relationship. It's perfectly believable that they would stay in touch and circimstances would bring them back together.(and bring Bond back to Scotland)

    Perhaps Kincade is killed by a load of gangland thugs as part of a dispute re buying the Bond estate/land (how many characters within the Bond universe does Bond genuinley care about) and we get some kind of grimey "Get Carter" urban action thriller? This would also deal with the issue discussed with Bond being stripped of tech and Scooby help. A personal vendetta with no gadgets and no help from the team. (sounds weird and way way out of the Bond comfort zone but, with Hodge and Boyle, "all bets are off" which I love. (anyone seen Harry Brown?)

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    Interesting
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    Cant we just have a simple stand-alone mission based film ,FFS ?
  • edited March 2018 Posts: 4,603
    If they had hired an "Apted" then we could pretty much start ticking the boxes re what to expect. But the debate and banter over the next 12 months (or more) is going to be very interesting as we should all know that they have not hired Hodge/Boyle to produce a "cookie cutter" Bond. Great fun and, for me, exciting.

    How will the glamorous Bond world of cocktails, Astons, casinos etc meet the cold Boyle world of drugs, poverty, disfunction etc. Either they meet in the middle or something has to give big time: We have many months to work this out.



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    peter wrote: »
    ok , just so I’m clear: you have a following? Over the years you have collected a following of readers? And these followers understand your process of thinking/re-assessment?... Hmm

    That is very cool! No jokes on my part. Seriously, I get it.

    Every once in a while you get on a rant about something someone wrote and you see for whatever reason as offensive . Has it ever occurred to you, that it might be you who is getting things wrong? Maybe you're just not very good in perceiving meanings?
    Worst of all, when proven wrong you don't apologize, but simply stay quiet for a while and then come back and just don't mention it.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    An espionage driven plot would excite me very much. If there's anything that's been lacking from the Craig era, it's definitely the "spy" factor. I'd like to see Craig moving along the shadows in a dark outfit with a silenced Walther PPK.

    Wasn't that done in Skyfall? Minus the silencer
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  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    An espionage driven plot would excite me very much. If there's anything that's been lacking from the Craig era, it's definitely the "spy" factor. I'd like to see Craig moving along the shadows in a dark outfit with a silenced Walther PPK.

    Wasn't that done in Skyfall? Minus the silencer

    Yes, but there should be more of that. Out of four films that scene lasted for all of 5 minutes, not even.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    patb wrote: »
    Finney is 81 - why not?

    . It is interesting that the harsh, cold and stark features of Scotland are reflected as values within many of Boyles films (leading to the classic question of how artists are effected but their surroundings/upbringing)

    Kincade IMHO was one of the most memorable supporting characters within the series and seemed to have a really good chemistry with Bond (a type of father figure with some wonderful lines) remembering that his screen time was minimal.

    Bringing him back would not be a gimmick in terms of the time line and relationship. It's perfectly believable that they would stay in touch and circimstances would bring them back together.(and bring Bond back to Scotland)

    Perhaps Kincade is killed by a load of gangland thugs as part of a dispute re buying the Bond estate/land (how many characters within the Bond universe does Bond genuinley care about) and we get some kind of grimey "Get Carter" urban action thriller? This would also deal with the issue discussed with Bond being stripped of tech and Scooby help. A personal vendetta with no gadgets and no help from the team. (sounds weird and way way out of the Bond comfort zone but, with Hodge and Boyle, "all bets are off" which I love. (anyone seen Harry Brown?)

    Really?

    Bond sneaking round a council estate silently killing chavs?

    I'd far sooner a spin off with Kincaide a la Harry Brown where he does it himself.
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    P&W probably developed a concept or outline & babs used that as a base starter for hodge & Boyle. If Boyle is helming expect a smaller budget & fewer a list stars. Waltz & Madeline are likely out. Craig is getting a standalone send off.

    I hope it is also smaller budget. Small for Bond has never failed IMO.

    I like the sound of a small budget, hopefully espionage driven, Bond film. While they are reigning in the budget, reign in the drama as well. A spy thriller fit to sit alongside FRWL and TLD is long overdue for a series centered around a spy.

    Not espionage driven, emotion driven I think with Boyle. He's not focused on plot, but character.

    Great! Just what I had been longing for.
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    I know, I know, it pushes the envelope but this is Boyle!!

    Having some massive HQ with the villain saying "See that some harm comes to him" with a pool of sharks and lasers is as far away from Boyle as the council estate is for Bond. That's what makes the situation really interesting. Something is going to have to be flexible.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Almost all of Danny Boyle's films are under 2hrs, so we can assume he won't make a 145 minute epic like 3 out of the 4 last films have been. That's a plus in my book, as I'm really looking for something more succinct and rewatch value.
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    echo wrote: »
    Will Bond 25 be going back to Scotland? Hodge tends to use that location well.

    Oh yes! More of those exotic places the last movies were awash with.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    Guys, as some members have mentioned on here, let's not forget that Mendes was an unlikely choice for Bond as well, but look at what we got with Skyfall. A near masterpiece that became the most successful Bond film of all time. I am not getting distracted by the fact that Boyle is an unlikely Bond candidate.
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